This is a nice write-up in USA Today on the upcoming season for Sun Belt football.

Sure would be nice to be the fifth team in contention.

USA Today - Sun Belt Conference

(08-27-2015 07:39 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  This is a nice write-up in USA Today on the upcoming season for Sun Belt football.

Sure would be nice to be the fifth team in contention.

USA Today - Sun Belt Conference

I anticipate USA Today's forthcoming comprehensive review of the CAA.

AAC or bust!

(08-27-2015 09:45 AM)91Alum Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 07:39 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  This is a nice write-up in USA Today on the upcoming season for Sun Belt football.

Sure would be nice to be the fifth team in contention.

USA Today - Sun Belt Conference

I anticipate USA Today's forthcoming comprehensive review of the CAA.

Also, saw somewhere yesterday where the new Palmetto Bowl in Charleston is likely to be an ACC/SunBelt matchup. I mean, who'd want that?

(08-27-2015 10:23 AM)PurpleStreamers Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 09:45 AM)91Alum Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 07:39 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  This is a nice write-up in USA Today on the upcoming season for Sun Belt football.

Sure would be nice to be the fifth team in contention.

USA Today - Sun Belt Conference

I anticipate USA Today's forthcoming comprehensive review of the CAA.

Also, saw somewhere yesterday where the new Palmetto Bowl in Charleston is likely to be an ACC/SunBelt matchup. I mean, who'd want that?

Why play in a bowl game when we can be on ESPN 3 playing a no namer and lose!

Why the hell do they keep making more bowls? 5-7 teams are about to start playing in them, with one win being Fcs.
I get that it's about TV ratings driving their desire to keep making them, but I would think that as the playoffs expand, the casual fan will slowly realize the pointlessness of the bowl games.

(08-27-2015 11:07 AM)Potomac Wrote:  Why the hell do they keep making more bowls? 5-7 teams are about to start playing in them, with one win being Fcs.
I get that it's about TV ratings driving their desire to keep making them, but I would think that as the playoffs expand, the casual fan will slowly realize the pointlessness of the bowl games.

Why does it matter? Are you going to argue against JMU playing an extra game? If you don't like it, don't watch it.

(08-27-2015 11:07 AM)Potomac Wrote:  Why the hell do they keep making more bowls? 5-7 teams are about to start playing in them, with one win being Fcs.
I get that it's about TV ratings driving their desire to keep making them, but I would think that as the playoffs expand, the casual fan will slowly realize the pointlessness of the bowl games.

Capitalism.
Schools want them. Fans seem to like going to them. Cities like the visitors. TV needs the content.

(08-27-2015 10:23 AM)PurpleStreamers Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 09:45 AM)91Alum Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 07:39 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  This is a nice write-up in USA Today on the upcoming season for Sun Belt football.

Sure would be nice to be the fifth team in contention.

USA Today - Sun Belt Conference

I anticipate USA Today's forthcoming comprehensive review of the CAA.

Also, saw somewhere yesterday where the new Palmetto Bowl in Charleston is likely to be an ACC/SunBelt matchup. I mean, who'd want that?

Hmmm. That would be cool if the Sun Belt could pull that off. Charleston would be an awesome place for a lower level bowl game.

However, by my count, the ACC has 10 bowl tie-ins already. It would be very difficult to have an ACC bowl eligible team still available with 10 bowls choosing in front of the Palmetto Bowl. It's seems like throwing the Sun Belt a bone- sounds good on paper, but a matchup that would rarely come to fruition. The other problem I see is, will a P5 school and fanbase embrace playing a G5 team in a 21k seat stadium?

To me, the opportunity to play a P5/top level G5 from the AAC or MWC is part of what makes me want FBS football. If we have a great season, it would be a letdown if our reward was playing an 8-3 unranked Bowling Green team. Of course, that's likely the way P5 teams currently view G5 teams in bowl games.

How many bowl tie-ins does the CAA have?

(08-27-2015 11:09 AM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 11:07 AM)Potomac Wrote:  Why the hell do they keep making more bowls? 5-7 teams are about to start playing in them, with one win being Fcs.
I get that it's about TV ratings driving their desire to keep making them, but I would think that as the playoffs expand, the casual fan will slowly realize the pointlessness of the bowl games.

Why does it matter? Are you going to argue against JMU playing an extra game? If you don't like it, don't watch it.

I don't watch it. I should be asking why you're bothering to watch it. Like you care about ull playing Memphis in Boise Idaho.

(08-27-2015 11:15 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 11:07 AM)Potomac Wrote:  Why the hell do they keep making more bowls? 5-7 teams are about to start playing in them, with one win being Fcs.
I get that it's about TV ratings driving their desire to keep making them, but I would think that as the playoffs expand, the casual fan will slowly realize the pointlessness of the bowl games.

Capitalism.
Schools want them. Fans seem to like going to them. Cities like the visitors. TV needs the content.

All that may apply except for fans going to them. There is ample support showing that bowl attendance is consistently declining and the reported attendance numbers are bogus.

(08-27-2015 11:15 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 11:07 AM)Potomac Wrote:  Why the hell do they keep making more bowls? 5-7 teams are about to start playing in them, with one win being Fcs.
I get that it's about TV ratings driving their desire to keep making them, but I would think that as the playoffs expand, the casual fan will slowly realize the pointlessness of the bowl games.

Capitalism.
Schools want them. Fans seem to like going to them. Cities like the visitors. TV needs the content.

I love the minor bowls. I watch them all. We need more of them!

Here is a prediction for the Sun Belt bowl this year, five teams will make it.

http://www.underdogdynasty.com/2015/5/11...wl-tie-ins

You know, we really should look into joining the Sun Belt.

(08-27-2015 11:23 AM)olddawg Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 10:23 AM)PurpleStreamers Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 09:45 AM)91Alum Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 07:39 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  This is a nice write-up in USA Today on the upcoming season for Sun Belt football.

Sure would be nice to be the fifth team in contention.

USA Today - Sun Belt Conference

I anticipate USA Today's forthcoming comprehensive review of the CAA.

Also, saw somewhere yesterday where the new Palmetto Bowl in Charleston is likely to be an ACC/SunBelt matchup. I mean, who'd want that?

Hmmm. That would be cool if the Sun Belt could pull that off. Charleston would be an awesome place for a lower level bowl game.

However, by my count, the ACC has 10 bowl tie-ins already. It would be very difficult to have an ACC bowl eligible team still available with 10 bowls choosing in front of the Palmetto Bowl. It's seems like throwing the Sun Belt a bone- sounds good on paper, but a matchup that would rarely come to fruition. The other problem I see is, will a P5 school and fanbase embrace playing a G5 team in a 21k seat stadium?

To me, the opportunity to play a P5/top level G5 from the AAC or MWC is part of what makes me want FBS football. If we have a great season, it would be a letdown if our reward was playing an 8-3 unranked Bowling Green team. Of course, that's likely the way P5 teams currently view G5 teams in bowl games.

There are 15 teams in the ACC pool (including Notre Dame). 11 bowl eligibles isn't crazy. Remember that the ACC plays a 4 OOC schedule. A 2 conference win ACC team could be bowl eligible. Add to that a scenario where two teams get into the BCS/Access Bowl mix, and you're looking at a reasonable probability in many years.

But yes, if you predicate moving to FBS on the assumption that you'll be hosting P5's at your place every year and that if you go 8-4 that you'll end up playing a P5 team in a prominent bowl game...then you'd be disappointed by the reality of G5 life.

(08-27-2015 12:07 PM)Potomac Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 11:15 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 11:07 AM)Potomac Wrote:  Why the hell do they keep making more bowls? 5-7 teams are about to start playing in them, with one win being Fcs.
I get that it's about TV ratings driving their desire to keep making them, but I would think that as the playoffs expand, the casual fan will slowly realize the pointlessness of the bowl games.

Capitalism.
Schools want them. Fans seem to like going to them. Cities like the visitors. TV needs the content.

All that may apply except for fans going to them. There is ample support showing that bowl attendance is consistently declining and the reported attendance numbers are bogus.

Here is an article explaining why the number of bowls continue to grow, whole attendance declines (hint: it's the same reason why the MAC and SBC play weekday games in front of empty stands):

http://usat.ly/1AOmyX9

(08-27-2015 12:12 PM)truthahn Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 11:15 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 11:07 AM)Potomac Wrote:  Why the hell do they keep making more bowls? 5-7 teams are about to start playing in them, with one win being Fcs.
I get that it's about TV ratings driving their desire to keep making them, but I would think that as the playoffs expand, the casual fan will slowly realize the pointlessness of the bowl games.

Capitalism.
Schools want them. Fans seem to like going to them. Cities like the visitors. TV needs the content.

I love the minor bowls. I watch them all. We need more of them!

Here is a prediction for the Sun Belt bowl this year, five teams will make it.

http://www.underdogdynasty.com/2015/5/11...wl-tie-ins

You know, we really should look into joining the Sun Belt.

Why would you want bowl games for 4-8 & 5-7 teams? How about a bowl game for every team? How about the 1-11 and 0-12 teams?

(08-27-2015 12:06 PM)Potomac Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 11:09 AM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 11:07 AM)Potomac Wrote:  Why the hell do they keep making more bowls? 5-7 teams are about to start playing in them, with one win being Fcs.
I get that it's about TV ratings driving their desire to keep making them, but I would think that as the playoffs expand, the casual fan will slowly realize the pointlessness of the bowl games.

Why does it matter? Are you going to argue against JMU playing an extra game? If you don't like it, don't watch it.

I don't watch it. I should be asking why you're bothering to watch it. Like you care about ull playing Memphis in Boise Idaho.

More football is better than no football... And do I care about ULL/Memphis, not really but what else would be on ESPN other than a replay or a bunch of talking heads. I'd be thrilled if JMU got another game to play, that I would care about.

It will get to the point where every fbs school is in a bowl game... As long as they get the sponsors to be happy with the ratings.

(08-27-2015 01:24 PM)Purple Pilgrim Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 12:07 PM)Potomac Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 11:15 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 11:07 AM)Potomac Wrote:  Why the hell do they keep making more bowls? 5-7 teams are about to start playing in them, with one win being Fcs.
I get that it's about TV ratings driving their desire to keep making them, but I would think that as the playoffs expand, the casual fan will slowly realize the pointlessness of the bowl games.

Capitalism.
Schools want them. Fans seem to like going to them. Cities like the visitors. TV needs the content.

All that may apply except for fans going to them. There is ample support showing that bowl attendance is consistently declining and the reported attendance numbers are bogus.

Here is an article explaining why the number of bowls continue to grow, whole attendance declines (hint: it's the same reason why the MAC and SBC play weekday games in front of empty stands):

http://usat.ly/1AOmyX9

Article has a good point. Attendance at alot of the lower bowls and (even some of te bigger ones) sucks. Attendance wise bowls are already past the saturation point, but TV viewing wise they're not there yet. So play some of them in mammoth studio indoor studio/small stadium. Maybe it could be 10-20k seats. Could use some real fans interspersed with cardboard cutouts if need be. Also use different colored seats- it can make it look like fuller on TV. After all, bowl games between a 6-6/7-5 G5 in Dec, esp in places like Detriot or Boise, makes zero sense...

(08-27-2015 02:10 PM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 12:06 PM)Potomac Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 11:09 AM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 11:07 AM)Potomac Wrote:  Why the hell do they keep making more bowls? 5-7 teams are about to start playing in them, with one win being Fcs.
I get that it's about TV ratings driving their desire to keep making them, but I would think that as the playoffs expand, the casual fan will slowly realize the pointlessness of the bowl games.

Why does it matter? Are you going to argue against JMU playing an extra game? If you don't like it, don't watch it.

I don't watch it. I should be asking why you're bothering to watch it. Like you care about ull playing Memphis in Boise Idaho.

More football is better than no football... And do I care about ULL/Memphis, not really but what else would be on ESPN other than a replay or a bunch of talking heads. I'd be thrilled if JMU got another game to play, that I would care about.

I watch post season football to see the best teams from different conferences play one another. I don't waste my time watching bad FBS teams play post season because they found a sponsor. Players don't really benefit from those games, only exciting thing is traveling , free stuff and having a extra game to play. I would rather watch a CAA team play post season on ESPN 2 then most bowl games.

A huge game might help draft status, but after 12 games they probably already have an eval on you and they don't need to see you play vs Wyoming to bolster that status lol.