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(08-27-2015 03:35 PM)bridgeforthduke Wrote:  
(08-27-2015 02:16 PM)LoneStar Wrote:  
(08-26-2015 07:01 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
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(08-26-2015 05:03 PM)JMU Wrote:  I dont understand why they didn't seem to notice this bastard. No words seem right to describe how this has upset me today.

They were focused on doing their jobs. I'm sure when you are on camera like that it becomes very easy to be in the "zone" and to block out what is happening a number of feet behind that camera.

True. I get that with a crowd of people or just a few other people milling about, because I imagine reporters are trained to tune that out, be in that zone like you said. We've probably all seen countless news clips of bystanders acting stupid behind the camera or simply trying to get themselves seen on TV. But these three were the only people on a breezeway at an amusement park at 6:45 am and nobody else was within sight. Then out of nowhere a guy walks up to them to within looked to be about 10 feet (would have been view able from at least 50 ft), points the glock at them, then lowers it as he waits for the cameraman Adam to train the TV camera on the 2 women (he had been panning around filming some of the background), As soon as the TV camera is back on the 2 women he again raises the glock. The POS wanted this on live TV. Over 40 seconds, majority of time 1 or both of the women are in the frame. They never appeared to even glance at him.

100% this dirtbag POS fault. I just wish they hadn't been so oblivious to him and noticed him when he 1st walked up. They would have had a little better chance...


You are absolutely correct about questioning this event after watching the video, I thought the shooter was part of the actual camera crew when I first watched his video. Hence, I could rationalize why they would ignore this person that was standing in spitting distance of all three individuals. When I heard he was an ex employee this made no sense, all three individuals had to ignore him purposely for the 20-30 seconds he stood breathing down the cameraman's neck.

Second thing which is disturbing, he fired three point blank shots from ten feet away before the girl does a 180 degree turn in high heels then starts running away in full sprint. Does this make sense? Think people....

It's sad that the too many people just buy what they are told by the media or government and don't think for themselves. I didn't want to jump in this conversation, however, I'm horrified by the amount of people in the USA that jump on others when they question anything that other than the story that is fed to them. That video left more questions than answers .....

What are your thoughts on the Sandy Hook shootings, 9/11, and Chemtrails?

About the same as the thoughts on the Pat Tilman Story that came out originally.
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As a news writer at WPIX-TV in NYC, I offer my condolences to the JMU family for the senseless passing of a fellow Dukes alum, Alison Parker.

I tried to wrap my head around this whole ordeal but it's difficult to do.

Glad to see the university put forth a scholarship in the communication dept. in her name.
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(08-27-2015 02:16 PM)LoneStar Wrote:  
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(08-26-2015 05:03 PM)JMU Wrote:  
(08-26-2015 04:57 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  Adam the cameraman has his back to that bastard as he walked up but I'm amazed that neither of the women noticed that that SOB walking up to them, standing there in front of literally from about 10 feet away for about 30 seconds pointing the glock at them and then panning around for awhile and then pointing the Glock again and shooting. Unfortunately they never once looked at him until after he stated shooting. Which meant they went from little chance to almost no chance of getting away.

I dont understand why they didn't seem to notice this bastard. No words seem right to describe how this has upset me today.

They were focused on doing their jobs. I'm sure when you are on camera like that it becomes very easy to be in the "zone" and to block out what is happening a number of feet behind that camera.

True. I get that with a crowd of people or just a few other people milling about, because I imagine reporters are trained to tune that out, be in that zone like you said. We've probably all seen countless news clips of bystanders acting stupid behind the camera or simply trying to get themselves seen on TV. But these three were the only people on a breezeway at an amusement park at 6:45 am and nobody else was within sight. Then out of nowhere a guy walks up to them to within looked to be about 10 feet (would have been view able from at least 50 ft), points the glock at them, then lowers it as he waits for the cameraman Adam to train the TV camera on the 2 women (he had been panning around filming some of the background), As soon as the TV camera is back on the 2 women he again raises the glock. The POS wanted this on live TV. Over 40 seconds, majority of time 1 or both of the women are in the frame. They never appeared to even glance at him.

100% this dirtbag POS fault. I just wish they hadn't been so oblivious to him and noticed him when he 1st walked up. They would have had a little better chance...


You are absolutely correct about questioning this event after watching the video, I thought the shooter was part of the actual camera crew when I first watched his video. Hence, I could rationalize why they would ignore this person that was standing in spitting distance of all three individuals. When I heard he was an ex employee this made no sense, all three individuals had to ignore him purposely for the 20-30 seconds he stood breathing down the cameraman's neck.

Second thing which is disturbing, he fired three point blank shots from ten feet away before the girl does a 180 degree turn in high heels then starts running away in full sprint. Does this make sense? Think people....

It's sad that the too many people just buy what they are told by the media or government and don't think for themselves. I didn't want to jump in this conversation, however, I'm horrified by the amount of people in the USA that jump on others when they question anything that other than the story that is fed to them. That video left more questions than answers .....

So what are we supposed to believe about the video? What highly enlightened viewpoint have you come on this board to share?
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(08-27-2015 03:58 PM)JMU2014 Wrote:  
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(08-26-2015 07:01 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(08-26-2015 05:14 PM)NH/JMU Saxkow Wrote:  
(08-26-2015 05:03 PM)JMU Wrote:  I dont understand why they didn't seem to notice this bastard. No words seem right to describe how this has upset me today.

They were focused on doing their jobs. I'm sure when you are on camera like that it becomes very easy to be in the "zone" and to block out what is happening a number of feet behind that camera.

True. I get that with a crowd of people or just a few other people milling about, because I imagine reporters are trained to tune that out, be in that zone like you said. We've probably all seen countless news clips of bystanders acting stupid behind the camera or simply trying to get themselves seen on TV. But these three were the only people on a breezeway at an amusement park at 6:45 am and nobody else was within sight. Then out of nowhere a guy walks up to them to within looked to be about 10 feet (would have been view able from at least 50 ft), points the glock at them, then lowers it as he waits for the cameraman Adam to train the TV camera on the 2 women (he had been panning around filming some of the background), As soon as the TV camera is back on the 2 women he again raises the glock. The POS wanted this on live TV. Over 40 seconds, majority of time 1 or both of the women are in the frame. They never appeared to even glance at him.

100% this dirtbag POS fault. I just wish they hadn't been so oblivious to him and noticed him when he 1st walked up. They would have had a little better chance...


You are absolutely correct about questioning this event after watching the video, I thought the shooter was part of the actual camera crew when I first watched his video. Hence, I could rationalize why they would ignore this person that was standing in spitting distance of all three individuals. When I heard he was an ex employee this made no sense, all three individuals had to ignore him purposely for the 20-30 seconds he stood breathing down the cameraman's neck.

Second thing which is disturbing, he fired three point blank shots from ten feet away before the girl does a 180 degree turn in high heels then starts running away in full sprint. Does this make sense? Think people....

It's sad that the too many people just buy what they are told by the media or government and don't think for themselves. I didn't want to jump in this conversation, however, I'm horrified by the amount of people in the USA that jump on others when they question anything that other than the story that is fed to them. That video left more questions than answers .....

So what are we supposed to believe about the video? What highly enlightened viewpoint have you come on this board to share?

Make sure you answer quickly, Lonestar...remember Obama is getting ready to put Texas under martial law and put everyone in camps...
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To even question what happened is absolutely asinine. Two people died. No, there were no special effects. Sorry it didn't happen like it does in the movies.
They were focused on their jobs. I'm sure other people around isn't new to them. So sorry they didn't stray from their job to look at someone coming their way. I'm sure the first thing they were thinking about was "Oh boy, I sure hope someone doesn't come by this morning and kill us!" Hindsight is 20/20.

Not everything has to be a f***ing conspiracy.

What a disgusting comment to make.
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(08-27-2015 04:26 PM)NH/JMU Saxkow Wrote:  
(08-27-2015 03:58 PM)JMU2014 Wrote:  
(08-27-2015 02:16 PM)LoneStar Wrote:  
(08-26-2015 07:01 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(08-26-2015 05:14 PM)NH/JMU Saxkow Wrote:  They were focused on doing their jobs. I'm sure when you are on camera like that it becomes very easy to be in the "zone" and to block out what is happening a number of feet behind that camera.

True. I get that with a crowd of people or just a few other people milling about, because I imagine reporters are trained to tune that out, be in that zone like you said. We've probably all seen countless news clips of bystanders acting stupid behind the camera or simply trying to get themselves seen on TV. But these three were the only people on a breezeway at an amusement park at 6:45 am and nobody else was within sight. Then out of nowhere a guy walks up to them to within looked to be about 10 feet (would have been view able from at least 50 ft), points the glock at them, then lowers it as he waits for the cameraman Adam to train the TV camera on the 2 women (he had been panning around filming some of the background), As soon as the TV camera is back on the 2 women he again raises the glock. The POS wanted this on live TV. Over 40 seconds, majority of time 1 or both of the women are in the frame. They never appeared to even glance at him.

100% this dirtbag POS fault. I just wish they hadn't been so oblivious to him and noticed him when he 1st walked up. They would have had a little better chance...


You are absolutely correct about questioning this event after watching the video, I thought the shooter was part of the actual camera crew when I first watched his video. Hence, I could rationalize why they would ignore this person that was standing in spitting distance of all three individuals. When I heard he was an ex employee this made no sense, all three individuals had to ignore him purposely for the 20-30 seconds he stood breathing down the cameraman's neck.

Second thing which is disturbing, he fired three point blank shots from ten feet away before the girl does a 180 degree turn in high heels then starts running away in full sprint. Does this make sense? Think people....

It's sad that the too many people just buy what they are told by the media or government and don't think for themselves. I didn't want to jump in this conversation, however, I'm horrified by the amount of people in the USA that jump on others when they question anything that other than the story that is fed to them. That video left more questions than answers .....

So what are we supposed to believe about the video? What highly enlightened viewpoint have you come on this board to share?

Make sure you answer quickly, Lonestar...remember Obama is getting ready to put Texas under martial law and put everyone in camps...

NH,

Sorry, I just saw people challenging BDK on his critical thinking regarding an event that doesn't look right when you look at the perpetrator's video.

Unfortunately, with 19 trillion in debt Martial Law is inevitable for the entire country.

Just a matter of time before a default.
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I'm buying stock in tinfoil. With folks believing some of the silly ideas Lonestar is advancing there's sure to be a big demand for more tinfoil hats.
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(08-27-2015 05:52 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  I'm buying stock in tinfoil. With folks believing some of the silly ideas Lonestar is advancing there's sure to be a big demand for more tinfoil hats.

I'm not sure Lonestar said anything. Seemed like a lot of jiberish with the intent to stir up some crap.
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Lonestar looks like more and more of an idiot with every post. All of you blaming the victim should be ashamed of yourself. Pathetic.
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Lonestar is a moron! Two people are dead and he is so busy dreaming up conspiracy theories he can't take a few minutes to consider the victims. Just WOW!

Put your tinfoil hat on, Lonestar, and crawl back under your bed so the boogeyman doesn't get you.

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(08-27-2015 02:16 PM)LoneStar Wrote:  
(08-26-2015 07:01 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(08-26-2015 05:14 PM)NH/JMU Saxkow Wrote:  
(08-26-2015 05:03 PM)JMU Wrote:  
(08-26-2015 04:57 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  Adam the cameraman has his back to that bastard as he walked up but I'm amazed that neither of the women noticed that that SOB walking up to them, standing there in front of literally from about 10 feet away for about 30 seconds pointing the glock at them and then panning around for awhile and then pointing the Glock again and shooting. Unfortunately they never once looked at him until after he stated shooting. Which meant they went from little chance to almost no chance of getting away.

I dont understand why they didn't seem to notice this bastard. No words seem right to describe how this has upset me today.

They were focused on doing their jobs. I'm sure when you are on camera like that it becomes very easy to be in the "zone" and to block out what is happening a number of feet behind that camera.

True. I get that with a crowd of people or just a few other people milling about, because I imagine reporters are trained to tune that out, be in that zone like you said. We've probably all seen countless news clips of bystanders acting stupid behind the camera or simply trying to get themselves seen on TV. But these three were the only people on a breezeway at an amusement park at 6:45 am and nobody else was within sight. Then out of nowhere a guy walks up to them to within looked to be about 10 feet (would have been view able from at least 50 ft), points the glock at them, then lowers it as he waits for the cameraman Adam to train the TV camera on the 2 women (he had been panning around filming some of the background), As soon as the TV camera is back on the 2 women he again raises the glock. The POS wanted this on live TV. Over 40 seconds, majority of time 1 or both of the women are in the frame. They never appeared to even glance at him.

100% this dirtbag POS fault. I just wish they hadn't been so oblivious to him and noticed him when he 1st walked up. They would have had a little better chance...


You are absolutely correct about questioning this event after watching the video, I thought the shooter was part of the actual camera crew when I first watched his video. Hence, I could rationalize why they would ignore this person that was standing in spitting distance of all three individuals. When I heard he was an ex employee this made no sense, all three individuals had to ignore him purposely for the 20-30 seconds he stood breathing down the cameraman's neck.

Second thing which is disturbing, he fired three point blank shots from ten feet away before the girl does a 180 degree turn in high heels then starts running away in full sprint. Does this make sense? Think people....

It's sad that the too many people just buy what they are told by the media or government and don't think for themselves. I didn't want to jump in this conversation, however, I'm horrified by the amount of people in the USA that jump on others when they question anything that other than the story that is fed to them. That video left more questions than answers .....

1st of all, I didn't question the event or the authenticity of the video. Its 100% clear that this sick prick murdered 2 people in cold blood, while gravely wounding a 3rd.

2ndly, the video only clearly shows the position of the gun only during the 1st 3 shots fired, at Alison, who was the furthest away of the 3 victims at the time of those shots, about 3-4 yards.
-This POS was also likely an untrained, not very experienced shooter- he reportedly bought the 9 mm Glock in June.
-2 handed after each shot the muzzle kicks a little (even a 9 mm). And less training = less muzzle control. But this idiot was trying to film with 1 hand while shooting 1 handed.
-In order to film at the same time you could tell he had the weapon at lower chest level. There was no proper sight alignment (proper relationship between front and rear sights).

The video showed those 1st shots as 1 handed, point and shoot, poor muzzle control, jerking the trigger spray and pray. So its perfectly logical if those 1st 3 shots missed, even from that close range, and any subsequent not shown by the video.

3rd, if someone is hit by a smaller caliber round like a 9mm, even multiple times, it doesn't mean they instantly go down. Its not Hollywood. Its possible 1 or more of the 1st 3 shots did hit her. You can't tell.

After the 1st 3 shots the video is a jumbled mess for the next 4 shots and then it is black for the next about 7. We don't know how many of the shots after the 1st 3 were can't miss contact/near contact from a couple of feet.

So please don't associate me with your crack pot conspiracy theory(s) that are floating around the internet.
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(08-27-2015 05:16 PM)LoneStar Wrote:  
(08-27-2015 04:26 PM)NH/JMU Saxkow Wrote:  
(08-27-2015 03:58 PM)JMU2014 Wrote:  
(08-27-2015 02:16 PM)LoneStar Wrote:  
(08-26-2015 07:01 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  True. I get that with a crowd of people or just a few other people milling about, because I imagine reporters are trained to tune that out, be in that zone like you said. We've probably all seen countless news clips of bystanders acting stupid behind the camera or simply trying to get themselves seen on TV. But these three were the only people on a breezeway at an amusement park at 6:45 am and nobody else was within sight. Then out of nowhere a guy walks up to them to within looked to be about 10 feet (would have been view able from at least 50 ft), points the glock at them, then lowers it as he waits for the cameraman Adam to train the TV camera on the 2 women (he had been panning around filming some of the background), As soon as the TV camera is back on the 2 women he again raises the glock. The POS wanted this on live TV. Over 40 seconds, majority of time 1 or both of the women are in the frame. They never appeared to even glance at him.

100% this dirtbag POS fault. I just wish they hadn't been so oblivious to him and noticed him when he 1st walked up. They would have had a little better chance...


You are absolutely correct about questioning this event after watching the video, I thought the shooter was part of the actual camera crew when I first watched his video. Hence, I could rationalize why they would ignore this person that was standing in spitting distance of all three individuals. When I heard he was an ex employee this made no sense, all three individuals had to ignore him purposely for the 20-30 seconds he stood breathing down the cameraman's neck.

Second thing which is disturbing, he fired three point blank shots from ten feet away before the girl does a 180 degree turn in high heels then starts running away in full sprint. Does this make sense? Think people....

It's sad that the too many people just buy what they are told by the media or government and don't think for themselves. I didn't want to jump in this conversation, however, I'm horrified by the amount of people in the USA that jump on others when they question anything that other than the story that is fed to them. That video left more questions than answers .....

So what are we supposed to believe about the video? What highly enlightened viewpoint have you come on this board to share?

Make sure you answer quickly, Lonestar...remember Obama is getting ready to put Texas under martial law and put everyone in camps...

NH,

Sorry, I just saw people challenging BDK on his critical thinking regarding an event that doesn't look right when you look at the perpetrator's video.

Unfortunately, with 19 trillion in debt Martial Law is inevitable for the entire country.

Just a matter of time before a default.

I don't need defending by you. I don't want to be associated with you.
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Just reported:

The surviving lady was shot at and missed twice. She then balled up in a ball and he shot her in point blank range in the back. Upon everything settling down and not realizing the extent of her injuries, she walked to the rescue squad.
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(08-28-2015 06:26 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  Just reported:

The surviving lady was shot at and missed twice. She then balled up in a ball and he shot her in point blank range in the back. Upon everything settling down and not realizing the extent of her injuries, she walked to the rescue squad.

VA Medical officials release info on deaths:
http://whnt.com/2015/08/28/medical-offic...news-crew/
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Condolences to the JMU family
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It's not surprising at all to me that they didn't notice him. Think about even with playing sports, most don't notice anything off the field/court/whatever and you don't want to notice those things. When I would compete in flowboarding I was always so focused on my run that I don't hear a word said over the microphone or notice anything around me other than the timer. I would've had to make an effort to specifically notice things around me. Even something less serious like flag football or rec league basketball, I'd never notice anything or anyone from the sideline/bleachers. Fortunately that always came naturally to me, and the people it doesn't come naturally to are usually trying to block all those things out. I'd imagine it's the same way for a job like theirs.

To see something like that, though, and go "This is a conspiracy and if anyone doesn't think so I should tell them how they believe everything the government tells them and that they don't think for themselves" is pretty ridiculous, especially to do so on a message board of the university where one of the victims graduated.
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I believe I read on Twitter that the scholarship fund created for Allison raised over $25K already. That's pretty incredible.
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(08-29-2015 12:24 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  I believe I read on Twitter that the scholarship fund created for Allison raised over $25K already. That's pretty incredible.

I just read that someone agreed to match the $25k so now it'll be an endowed scholarship with $50k in it and her name on it forever. Hopefully that number keeps rising.
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I saw that Tech will have helmet stickers honoring Alison Parker and Adam Ward for their season opener against Ohio State. Unless I've completely missed it, why haven't we announced something similar? This is such a great opportunity to honor two individuals who, by all accounts, were positive influences to everyone they met. I don't mean to make another "The admin is horrible and they don't know what they're doing!" post, but where are Bourne and Alger on this one? Why aren't we right up there with Tech announcing another way to honor these two amazing people?
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(08-30-2015 10:00 PM)JMU2014 Wrote:  I saw that Tech will have helmet stickers honoring Alison Parker and Adam Ward for their season opener against Ohio State. Unless I've completely missed it, why haven't we announced something similar? This is such a great opportunity to honor two individuals who, by all accounts, were positive influences to everyone they met. I don't mean to make another "The admin is horrible and they don't know what they're doing!" post, but where are Bourne and Alger on this one? Why aren't we right up there with Tech announcing another way to honor these two amazing people?

Agree
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