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RE: Legendary Uconn coach tears into AAC brethren:They're pulling all kinds of nonsense.
(08-25-2015 02:18 PM)wavefan12 Wrote: (08-25-2015 01:49 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: (08-25-2015 01:46 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: UConn is on an island. Not a bad idea to park all of their oly sports elsewhere, except bball.
They are some of the best Olympic sports in this conference. If we move them, it would be to the Big East. Why wouldn't we bring our basketball to the Big East then, too? (UConn to the Big East is what BE4Evah wants, so you are feeding him to create future posts like this)
Because football matters about 5X more than Bball and the AAC is going to take UConn FBall without BBall....and going indy is extremely difficult right now. I have my doubts whether any other conference is a legit option or a UConn FBall.
I bet the AAC would let UConn park its football here. Why? UConn still draws solid eyeballs for football on television even in down years due to having arguably the strongest brand in this conference (which is due to basketball success).
Let me know how replacing UConn with Charlotte or UAB works out for you in football.
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RE: Legendary Uconn coach tears into AAC brethren:They're pulling all kinds of nonsense.
It really would probably be better for many schools to have their lesser sports such as soccer play in regional leagues instead of the way it is now.
It would certainly help those sports and schools financially.
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RE: Legendary Uconn coach tears into AAC brethren:They're pulling all kinds of nonsense.
Let's see who blinks first. Pull basketball out and see if football stays.
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RE: Legendary Uconn coach tears into AAC brethren:They're pulling all kinds of nonsense.
(08-25-2015 02:47 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: (08-25-2015 02:18 PM)wavefan12 Wrote: (08-25-2015 01:49 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: (08-25-2015 01:46 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: UConn is on an island. Not a bad idea to park all of their oly sports elsewhere, except bball.
They are some of the best Olympic sports in this conference. If we move them, it would be to the Big East. Why wouldn't we bring our basketball to the Big East then, too? (UConn to the Big East is what BE4Evah wants, so you are feeding him to create future posts like this)
Because football matters about 5X more than Bball and the AAC is going to take UConn FBall without BBall....and going indy is extremely difficult right now. I have my doubts whether any other conference is a legit option or a UConn FBall.
I bet the AAC would let UConn park its football here. Why? UConn still draws solid eyeballs for football on television even in down years due to having arguably the strongest brand in this conference (which is due to basketball success).
Let me know how replacing UConn with Charlotte or UAB works out for you in football.
No chance they would do a FBall only with UConn and see BBall go to the Big East. None. IMO. There are some positives with UConn Fball but the AAC would reject it on PR grounds alone. Not to mention, your fans don;t travel and the team stinks right now.
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RE: Legendary Uconn coach tears into AAC brethren:They're pulling all kinds of nonsense.
(08-25-2015 02:53 PM)bearcatfan Wrote: It really would probably be better for many schools to have their lesser sports such as soccer play in regional leagues instead of the way it is now.
It would certainly help those sports and schools financially.
I would agree, but I think they are trying to get some cohesion with the AAC, at least try for a few years.
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RE: Legendary Uconn coach tears into AAC brethren:They're pulling all kinds of nonsense.
(08-25-2015 02:47 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: (08-25-2015 02:18 PM)wavefan12 Wrote: (08-25-2015 01:49 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: (08-25-2015 01:46 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: UConn is on an island. Not a bad idea to park all of their oly sports elsewhere, except bball.
They are some of the best Olympic sports in this conference. If we move them, it would be to the Big East. Why wouldn't we bring our basketball to the Big East then, too? (UConn to the Big East is what BE4Evah wants, so you are feeding him to create future posts like this)
Because football matters about 5X more than Bball and the AAC is going to take UConn FBall without BBall....and going indy is extremely difficult right now. I have my doubts whether any other conference is a legit option or a UConn FBall.
I bet the AAC would let UConn park its football here. Why? UConn still draws solid eyeballs for football on television even in down years due to having arguably the strongest brand in this conference (which is due to basketball success).
Let me know how replacing UConn with Charlotte or UAB works out for you in football.
AAC would move Navy to the East and add Rice into the AAC West. Moot point anyway.
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RE: Legendary Uconn coach tears into AAC brethren:
(08-25-2015 02:53 PM)Pony94 Wrote: Let's see who blinks first. Pull basketball out and see if football stays.
Don't laugh. I would be all for putting basketball in the Big East and watching the fallout. I'd bet anything that the AAC blinks. UConn is the only land grant state university in this conference and the only school that carries its entire television market (in addition to its entire state). Plus, we are the only school winning national championships in a revenue sport (basketball - men and women). Even if we took those sports elsewhere, UConn being in this league still helps the perception of it on a national stage.
Not to sound obnoxious, but without the UConn name, this conference is truly CUSA 3.0
So sure - let's see what happens!
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RE: Legendary Uconn coach tears into AAC brethren:They're pulling all kinds of nonsense.
(08-25-2015 02:47 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: (08-25-2015 02:18 PM)wavefan12 Wrote: (08-25-2015 01:49 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: (08-25-2015 01:46 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: UConn is on an island. Not a bad idea to park all of their oly sports elsewhere, except bball.
They are some of the best Olympic sports in this conference. If we move them, it would be to the Big East. Why wouldn't we bring our basketball to the Big East then, too? (UConn to the Big East is what BE4Evah wants, so you are feeding him to create future posts like this)
Because football matters about 5X more than Bball and the AAC is going to take UConn FBall without BBall....and going indy is extremely difficult right now. I have my doubts whether any other conference is a legit option or a UConn FBall.
I bet the AAC would let UConn park its football here. Why? UConn still draws solid eyeballs for football on television even in down years due to having arguably the strongest brand in this conference (which is due to basketball success).
Let me know how replacing UConn with Charlotte or UAB works out for you in football.
no offense but we drop uconn if the basketball teams decides to leave, basketball brand caries little weight on a bad team in football....memphis (historically), unlv, unm
noone is lining up to see vill versus uconn in football (basketball brands).....uconn is a cornerstone to this league..and that is only because of bball. remove the bball you are dead weight football team, in horrible recruiting grounds and a travel expense
you wouldnt get any special treatment....if uconn tried to remove its bball, theyd get the umass ultimatum and be dropped if the bball wasnt returned
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RE: Legendary Uconn coach tears into AAC brethren:They're pulling all kinds of nonsense.
(08-25-2015 01:40 PM)pesik Wrote: we only care about football...and basketball....
Speak for yourself. UH Baseball is a jewel of the athletic department, a source of pride, and matters a great deal to a lot of UH people.
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RE: Legendary Uconn coach tears into AAC brethren:
(08-25-2015 03:04 PM)pesik Wrote: (08-25-2015 02:47 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: (08-25-2015 02:18 PM)wavefan12 Wrote: (08-25-2015 01:49 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: (08-25-2015 01:46 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: UConn is on an island. Not a bad idea to park all of their oly sports elsewhere, except bball.
They are some of the best Olympic sports in this conference. If we move them, it would be to the Big East. Why wouldn't we bring our basketball to the Big East then, too? (UConn to the Big East is what BE4Evah wants, so you are feeding him to create future posts like this)
Because football matters about 5X more than Bball and the AAC is going to take UConn FBall without BBall....and going indy is extremely difficult right now. I have my doubts whether any other conference is a legit option or a UConn FBall.
I bet the AAC would let UConn park its football here. Why? UConn still draws solid eyeballs for football on television even in down years due to having arguably the strongest brand in this conference (which is due to basketball success).
Let me know how replacing UConn with Charlotte or UAB works out for you in football.
no offense but we drop uconn if the basketball teams decides to leave, basketball brand caries little weight on a bad team in football....memphis, unlv, unm
noone is lining up to see vill versus uconn in football (basketball brands).....uconn is a cornerstone to this league..and that is only because of bball. remove the bball you are dead weight football team, in horrible recruiting grounds
you wouldnt get any special treatment....if uconn tried to remove its bball, theyd get the umass ultimatum and be dropped if the bball wasnt returned
Blah blah blah with the UConn hate. Totally off base. UConn football was rock solid until five years ago. How was Memphis in football two years ago? Horrible. However, after one solid season, they are now viewed favorably by practically everyone here. All UConn needs is one good year in football. ONE! People have short memories as Memphis has proven.
As for recruiting, the northeast actually has solid talent. We don't have as MUCH of it, but that doesn't mean that the great players from here still aren't great. Plenty of schools shop for players up here.
Unlike the UMass situation, our brand is tied into your television contract. Do you really think that ESPN would have ANY incentive to show AAC basketball in primetime without UConn? No chance. People aren't tuning in to watch the 32 fans inside Hofheinz Pavilion root for a team that hasn't been relevant since the 80's in a game against Tulane. As for football, UConn is one of four schools in this conference that is crucial to the ESPN contract. If you lose two of those four, ESPN has the right to cancel the entire TV deal. If you lose one, they have the right to renegotiate the contract to a lower dollar amount. (In fairness, I believe that Houston is also one of those four schools.)
I am so tired of all the UConn trolls here. The UConn haters need to get their facts straight and have their schools accomplish something (anything) before running their mouths about their perceived value of the Huskies. It is just so endlessly annoying.
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RE: Legendary Uconn coach tears into AAC brethren:They're pulling all kinds of nonsense.
(08-25-2015 03:19 PM)Hymie Weiss Wrote: (08-25-2015 01:40 PM)pesik Wrote: we only care about football...and basketball....
Speak for yourself. UH Baseball is a jewel of the athletic department, a source of pride, and matters a great deal to a lot of UH people.
As does ECU baseball. A lot of ECU fans would lay the basketball program at the alter for sacrifice before anyone dare touch baseball.
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RE: Legendary Uconn coach tears into AAC brethren:They're pulling all kinds of nonsense.
(08-25-2015 03:19 PM)Hymie Weiss Wrote: (08-25-2015 01:40 PM)pesik Wrote: we only care about football...and basketball....
Speak for yourself. UH Baseball is a jewel of the athletic department, a source of pride, and matters a great deal to a lot of UH people.
we are talking in respect to financial priority...the OP is saying that we dont care about investing and putting effort into improving our soccer... my response was that right now for everyone we are focused on basketball and football..if you didnt sound bite my entire response to one quote i clearly explained it
right now we are all focused on bball and football to get in to the p5, but if we do get into the p5 they'll be more money to invest in all the other non-revenue sports. that we are all trying to handle what needs to be handled first...
and our baseball is a source of pride..sure..but lets not act like our highest attended baseball game wasnt becuase it was bundled with the spring football game
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RE: Legendary Uconn coach tears into AAC brethren:They're pulling all kinds of nonsense.
(08-25-2015 03:27 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: (08-25-2015 03:04 PM)pesik Wrote: (08-25-2015 02:47 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: (08-25-2015 02:18 PM)wavefan12 Wrote: (08-25-2015 01:49 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: They are some of the best Olympic sports in this conference. If we move them, it would be to the Big East. Why wouldn't we bring our basketball to the Big East then, too? (UConn to the Big East is what BE4Evah wants, so you are feeding him to create future posts like this)
Because football matters about 5X more than Bball and the AAC is going to take UConn FBall without BBall....and going indy is extremely difficult right now. I have my doubts whether any other conference is a legit option or a UConn FBall.
I bet the AAC would let UConn park its football here. Why? UConn still draws solid eyeballs for football on television even in down years due to having arguably the strongest brand in this conference (which is due to basketball success).
Let me know how replacing UConn with Charlotte or UAB works out for you in football.
no offense but we drop uconn if the basketball teams decides to leave, basketball brand caries little weight on a bad team in football....memphis, unlv, unm
noone is lining up to see vill versus uconn in football (basketball brands).....uconn is a cornerstone to this league..and that is only because of bball. remove the bball you are dead weight football team, in horrible recruiting grounds
you wouldnt get any special treatment....if uconn tried to remove its bball, theyd get the umass ultimatum and be dropped if the bball wasnt returned
Blah blah blah with the UConn hate. Totally off base. UConn football was rock solid until five years ago. How was Memphis in football two years ago? Horrible. However, after one solid season, they are now viewed favorably by practically everyone here. All UConn needs is one good year in football. ONE! People have short memories as Memphis has proven.
As for recruiting, the northeast actually has solid talent. We don't have as MUCH of it, but that doesn't mean that the great players from here still aren't great. Plenty of schools shop for players up here.
Unlike the UMass situation, our brand is tied into your television contract. Do you really think that ESPN would have ANY incentive to show AAC basketball in primetime without UConn? No chance. People aren't tuning in to watch the 32 fans inside Hofheinz Pavilion root for a team that hasn't been relevant since the 80's in a game against Tulane. As for football, UConn is one of four schools in this conference that is crucial to the ESPN contract. If you lose two of those four, ESPN has the right to cancel the entire TV deal. If you lose one, they have the right to renegotiate the contract to a lower dollar amount. (In fairness, I believe that Houston is also one of those four schools.)
I am so tired of all the UConn trolls here. The UConn haters need to get their facts straight and have their schools accomplish something (anything) before running their mouths about their perceived value of the Huskies. It is just so endlessly annoying.
and im guessing you didnt even read the actual response?
first off ill start by saying you arent the only basketball power in this league..so pretending like we only get primetime games "ONLY" because of uconn is wrong..in a worse 1 bid c-usa memphis had plenty prime time games
secondly you missed the eniter point of the post, you are saying uconn adds a ton of value because of basketball...NO ONE is denying that... the article you are jumping to respond to is that uconn takes it basketball to the big east and we'd still want to keep uconn in as football member....which yo everyone not a uconn fan its obvious we wouldnt do...
its endlessly annoying that uconn fans dont know what they are responding to and always get super defensive about everything..uconn fans got super defensive when everyone said uconn wasnt going to be good last year, it ended up being true...what seems to be running their mouth to uconn fans is stating anything that is true about uconn that they dont like
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RE: Legendary Uconn coach tears into AAC brethren:
Here are the facts (link provided at bottom). The AAC has four teams classified as “Group A” – these schools are UConn, Cincy, Houston, and Temple. The rest of the members are in “Group B”. The media rights deal can be terminated if either two Group A schools leave or one Group A and one Group B school leave. If two Group B schools leave, the contract will be renegotiated.
So, with the strong possibility of Cincy leaving for the Big 12, the AAC would be in no position in the future to threaten UConn if the AAC actually wanted to retain a TV contract with ESPN. The AAC would have to ask ESPN if the entire TV deal would be retained or terminated if UConn's olympic sports left and UConn remained as a "football only" school. ESPN would essentially make the call. If ESPN said "Keep UConn football" which, let's be real, they would (UConn is a former "power" conference team from the old Big East along with Cincy and USF), then the AAC would say "Yes, Master. Whatever you wish.")
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/...ng-sources
Facts are a b*tch, no?
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RE: Legendary Uconn coach tears into AAC brethren:They're pulling all kinds of nonsense.
I would wager UConn football has more potential long term than an ODU or whoever you would try to replace them with.
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RE: Legendary Uconn coach tears into AAC brethren:They're pulling all kinds of nonsense.
We have a soccer team? Learn something new everyday
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RE: Legendary Uconn coach tears into AAC brethren:They're pulling all kinds of nonsense.
I know he wasn't talking about USF. We have a pretty good soccer program
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RE: Legendary Uconn coach tears into AAC brethren:They're pulling all kinds of nonsense.
UConn football is far from dead weight to this conference. We haven't been good in 4 years but there is a huge difference between how good we've been recently and our inherent value. I'm not going to get into all the other hypothetical BS though.
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RE: Legendary Uconn coach tears into AAC brethren:They're pulling all kinds of nonsense.
(08-25-2015 04:13 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: Here are the facts (link provided at bottom). The AAC has four teams classified as “Group A” – these schools are UConn, Cincy, Houston, and Temple. The rest of the members are in “Group B”. The media rights deal can be terminated if either two Group A schools leave or one Group A and one Group B school leave. If two Group B schools leave, the contract will be renegotiated.
So, with the strong possibility of Cincy leaving for the Big 12, the AAC would be in no position in the future to threaten UConn if the AAC actually wanted to retain a TV contract with ESPN. The AAC would have to ask ESPN if the entire TV deal would be retained or terminated if UConn's olympic sports left and UConn remained as a "football only" school. ESPN would essentially make the call. If ESPN said "Keep UConn football" which, let's be real, they would (UConn is a former "power" conference team from the old Big East along with Cincy and USF), then the AAC would say "Yes, Master. Whatever you wish.")
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/...ng-sources
Facts are a b*tch, no?
you had 1 fact and then added a bunch of opinion to that fact...and then tried to pretend all of it is a fact
1) espn wouldnt make the call, nor do i think theyd care either way (if uconn basketball was already gone)..99% chance they'd accept any decision we made..if anything theyd push for us to make the ultimatum of all or nothing in an attempt to return uconn bball
and ps rice is a former power team, espn isnt in a rush to get them..
if we are real and not being a deluional uconn fan..if you flip the bball you are gone..espn almost certainly wouldnt run to your aid
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RE: Legendary Uconn coach tears into AAC brethren:They're pulling all kinds of nonsense.
(08-25-2015 02:10 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: (08-25-2015 02:02 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (08-25-2015 01:49 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: (08-25-2015 01:46 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: UConn is on an island. Not a bad idea to park all of their oly sports elsewhere, except bball.
They are some of the best Olympic sports in this conference. If we move them, it would be to the Big East. Why wouldn't we bring our basketball to the Big East then, too? (UConn to the Big East is what BE4Evah wants, so you are feeding him to create future posts like this)
Up to your AD. Not saying UConn should though. For Oly sports (non including bball which is jet charter) travel in a more compact area is ideal.
I am sure Ollie wants to be on ESPN and not wherever the Big East programming is.
I would just stay in the course with the painful AAC travel if we are doing what is necessary to eventually get into the ACC or B1G. What is tough for UConn is that our entire future is essentially in Diaco's hands (and that doesn't exactly make me think the end result will be what UConn needs it to be).
MODS: Can we ban the OP for good? The UConn troll threads from this poster are getting old fast.
If we banned him, then how else would we be reminded that the Big East still exists?
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