(08-24-2015 08:44 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 06:25 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 06:05 AM)Jimi357 Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 12:16 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  But IU is P5 while UC is G5. hence IU strengthens the schedule.

This is the point. You are better off pounding an IU or Purdue or Vandy than you are grinding out a win against Houston or Cincy.

+3, I concur

You really think the CFP committee would view a win over IU or Purdue as better than over a ranked G5? If so then why play Auburn? Lets load up with UK, IU, Kansas & Purdue. That's an awesome schedule, 4 P5's!

It's different to give more credit to Aub over UK than to say UK and Cincy are equals. The playoff committee places the P5 on a pedestal.

(08-24-2015 01:51 PM)Jimi357 Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 08:44 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 06:25 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 06:05 AM)Jimi357 Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 12:16 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  But IU is P5 while UC is G5. hence IU strengthens the schedule.

This is the point. You are better off pounding an IU or Purdue or Vandy than you are grinding out a win against Houston or Cincy.

+3, I concur

You really think the CFP committee would view a win over IU or Purdue as better than over a ranked G5? If so then why play Auburn? Lets load up with UK, IU, Kansas & Purdue. That's an awesome schedule, 4 P5's!

It's different to give more credit to Aub over UK than to say UK and Cincy are equals. The playoff committee places the P5 on a pedestal.

I know as a UC alum I am supposed to believe my school has a garbage football program, but I find it hard to believe that a playoff committee member will put more stock into a win over a 3-4 win P5 team as opposed to a 10+ win from the G5-- particularly if the G5 school gets a win or two over a decent P5 school OOC.

Looking back to last year (the first year of the playoffs) I really don't see a precedent to this theory that voters value wins over bottom feeding P5 schools over good G5 schools.

(08-24-2015 02:28 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 01:51 PM)Jimi357 Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 08:44 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 06:25 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 06:05 AM)Jimi357 Wrote:  This is the point. You are better off pounding an IU or Purdue or Vandy than you are grinding out a win against Houston or Cincy.

+3, I concur

You really think the CFP committee would view a win over IU or Purdue as better than over a ranked G5? If so then why play Auburn? Lets load up with UK, IU, Kansas & Purdue. That's an awesome schedule, 4 P5's!

It's different to give more credit to Aub over UK than to say UK and Cincy are equals. The playoff committee places the P5 on a pedestal.

I know as a UC alum I am supposed to believe my school has a garbage football program, but I find it hard to believe that a playoff committee member will put more stock into a win over a 3-4 win P5 team as opposed to a 10+ win from the G5-- particularly if the G5 school gets a win or two over a decent P5 school OOC.

Looking back to last year (the first year of the playoffs) I really don't see a precedent to this theory that voters value wins over bottom feeding P5 schools over good G5 schools.

I agree with you & I much rather play Cincinnati over IU, Purdue, Illinois, Vandy or Kansas. It's not even close!

(08-24-2015 06:04 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 02:28 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 01:51 PM)Jimi357 Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 08:44 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 06:25 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  +3, I concur

You really think the CFP committee would view a win over IU or Purdue as better than over a ranked G5? If so then why play Auburn? Lets load up with UK, IU, Kansas & Purdue. That's an awesome schedule, 4 P5's!

It's different to give more credit to Aub over UK than to say UK and Cincy are equals. The playoff committee places the P5 on a pedestal.

I know as a UC alum I am supposed to believe my school has a garbage football program, but I find it hard to believe that a playoff committee member will put more stock into a win over a 3-4 win P5 team as opposed to a 10+ win from the G5-- particularly if the G5 school gets a win or two over a decent P5 school OOC.

Looking back to last year (the first year of the playoffs) I really don't see a precedent to this theory that voters value wins over bottom feeding P5 schools over good G5 schools.

I agree with you & I much rather play Cincinnati over IU, Purdue, Illinois, Vandy or Kansas. It's not even close!

In this era you would much rather play OOC road games against another P5 opponent...right now would rather play Indiana, Purdue, Vanderbilt over a Cincinnati or Houston.

(08-25-2015 06:53 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 06:04 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 02:28 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 01:51 PM)Jimi357 Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 08:44 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  You really think the CFP committee would view a win over IU or Purdue as better than over a ranked G5? If so then why play Auburn? Lets load up with UK, IU, Kansas & Purdue. That's an awesome schedule, 4 P5's!

It's different to give more credit to Aub over UK than to say UK and Cincy are equals. The playoff committee places the P5 on a pedestal.

I know as a UC alum I am supposed to believe my school has a garbage football program, but I find it hard to believe that a playoff committee member will put more stock into a win over a 3-4 win P5 team as opposed to a 10+ win from the G5-- particularly if the G5 school gets a win or two over a decent P5 school OOC.

Looking back to last year (the first year of the playoffs) I really don't see a precedent to this theory that voters value wins over bottom feeding P5 schools over good G5 schools.

I agree with you & I much rather play Cincinnati over IU, Purdue, Illinois, Vandy or Kansas. It's not even close!

In this era you would much rather play OOC road games against another P5 opponent...right now would rather play Indiana, Purdue, Vanderbilt over a Cincinnati or Houston.

That is true but only to a certain point. TCU was given credit over Baylor last season because they played Minnesota but that was because Baylor didn't play ANY P5 OOC & they didn't play any good G5 either. SOS are looked at by the committee & that is based on rankings.

In Louisville case we have a guaranteed P5 opponent in UK every year but they really haven't boosted our SOS. If you want to switch them out with IU, Purdue or Vandy then that's basically a wash.

I like how Jurich is setting up our schedules. This year we have Auburn & UK as our P5 games with a good G5 Houston team. We also have Alabama & ND coming as well. As long as we keep getting Bama, ND, Auburn, etc then we can afford to play IU, Purdue or Vandy but a ranked G5 like Cincy would still strengthen our SOS. I would rather see Cincy in that 3rd spot than IU, Purdue, Vandy, etc., especially in years when we don't have a Bama or ND.

If the ACC stays at 8 games. We need these to be out of conference games:

Kentucky Annually
SEC team
Big 10 team (Except when we play Notre Dame)
Alternate Big12 and PAC 12 teams

If the ACC goes to 9 games. We need these to be out of conference games:

Kentucky Annually
Big 10 team (Except when we play Notre Dame)
Alternate Big12, PAC 12, and SEC teams

No disrespect to G5 teams but why play them and lose? After all, we want to be in the hunt for a National Championship every year. G5 schools do not qualify for this. A lose will kill your chance for the year.

(08-25-2015 09:46 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  If the ACC stays at 8 games. We need these to be out of conference games:

Kentucky Annually
SEC team
Big 10 team (Except when we play Notre Dame)
Alternate Big12 and PAC 12 teams

If the ACC goes to 9 games. We need these to be out of conference games:

Kentucky Annually
Big 10 team (Except when we play Notre Dame)
Alternate Big12, PAC 12, and SEC teams

No disrespect to G5 teams but why play them and lose? After all, we want to be in the hunt for a National Championship every year. G5 schools do not qualify for this. A lose will kill your chance for the year.

+1. Nice scheduling model.

(08-25-2015 09:57 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 09:46 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  If the ACC stays at 8 games. We need these to be out of conference games:

Kentucky Annually
SEC team
Big 10 team (Except when we play Notre Dame)
Alternate Big12 and PAC 12 teams

If the ACC goes to 9 games. We need these to be out of conference games:

Kentucky Annually
Big 10 team (Except when we play Notre Dame)
Alternate Big12, PAC 12, and SEC teams

No disrespect to G5 teams but why play them and lose? After all, we want to be in the hunt for a National Championship every year. G5 schools do not qualify for this. A lose will kill your chance for the year.

+1. Nice scheduling model.

Agreed.

Look at FSU schedule last year with ND, Florida & Oklahoma St. 3 P5 teams & if they would've lost with the way they had to come from behind to win a lot of games they wouldn't have made the playoffs because of SOS. You need to play ranked teams even if they are G5. Playing UK, IU, Kansas & Vandy wont be enough.

(08-25-2015 11:37 AM)HRFlossY Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 09:57 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 09:46 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  If the ACC stays at 8 games. We need these to be out of conference games:

Kentucky Annually
SEC team
Big 10 team (Except when we play Notre Dame)
Alternate Big12 and PAC 12 teams

If the ACC goes to 9 games. We need these to be out of conference games:

Kentucky Annually
Big 10 team (Except when we play Notre Dame)
Alternate Big12, PAC 12, and SEC teams

No disrespect to G5 teams but why play them and lose? After all, we want to be in the hunt for a National Championship every year. G5 schools do not qualify for this. A lose will kill your chance for the year.

+1. Nice scheduling model.

Agreed.

As long as at least 1 or 2 are top teams from those conferences & not bottom dwellers.

(08-25-2015 09:46 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  If the ACC stays at 8 games. We need these to be out of conference games:

Kentucky Annually
SEC team
Big 10 team (Except when we play Notre Dame)
Alternate Big12 and PAC 12 teams

If the ACC goes to 9 games. We need these to be out of conference games:

Kentucky Annually
Big 10 team (Except when we play Notre Dame)
Alternate Big12, PAC 12, and SEC teams

No disrespect to G5 teams but why play them and lose? After all, we want to be in the hunt for a National Championship every year. G5 schools do not qualify for this. A lose will kill your chance for the year.

In 2023 we play both IU and ND.
Two teams I feel we need to play are, Tennessee and Michigan State.
There is a reason UPS chose Louisville.

(08-25-2015 09:46 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  If the ACC stays at 8 games. We need these to be out of conference games:

Kentucky Annually
SEC team
Big 10 team (Except when we play Notre Dame)
Alternate Big12 and PAC 12 teams

If the ACC goes to 9 games. We need these to be out of conference games:

Kentucky Annually
Big 10 team (Except when we play Notre Dame)
Alternate Big12, PAC 12, and SEC teams

No disrespect to G5 teams but why play them and lose? After all, we want to be in the hunt for a National Championship every year. G5 schools do not qualify for this. A lose will kill your chance for the year.

Plus 1...Excellent model...