going on the same site as d-hall. Supposedly will have bluestone to tie in better with campus. little more than 150k square feet. Also there is a proposal design bid out for expanding carrier library. $98million dollar project. Dining hall has an estimated 80million budget. http://dailycommercialnews.com/Economic/...-1005198W/
(08-20-2015 03:16 PM)TXGiant Wrote: Good thing he's answering the important questions like "what is JMU doing to make sure it is more welcoming to transgender students..."
That's important. Yawn.
Not to open a political or cultural debate... but why don't you think this is important question to ask the Prez of a college? Is it not important for school admins to be outspoken about impactful student life issues such as this (or rape culture or LGBT acceptance, etc)?
I don't know the exact percentages, but I can't imagine that the actual number of transgender students at JMU- or anywhere for that matter- is greater than .5%. I think societally, it is a non-issue that has been made an issue by a very aggressive lobbying group. I do think gay and lesbian issues are of greater importance- but that wasn't the question. The "rape culture" (again, I would debate the actual truth in that label) issue has become thrust into the spotlight by a very strong lobby that has distorted "facts" to bring their agenda to the forefront of national discussion. But, because that is the society that we live in, and because of the alleged incident that occurred with JMU students (although not at JMU) I think that needs to be addressed as well- but that wasn't the question either.
I suppose I think there are issues- not just athletics, that are of far greater importance.
I would disagree - while the numbers are certainly small, I would say that it should be a priority that every fellow Duke feels comfortable and safe on our campus.
+1
I also dont think that sports is a priority for a University President.
Well the University of Alabama would disagree. According to that President,....hiring Nick Saban Was the single most important thing for him to do.
(08-20-2015 09:16 PM)Dukes 92 Wrote: going on the same site as d-hall. Supposedly will have bluestone to tie in better with campus. little more than 150k square feet. Also there is a proposal design bid out for expanding carrier library. $98million dollar project. Dining hall has an estimated 80million budget. http://dailycommercialnews.com/Economic/...-1005198W/
When I arrived to campus, that back half, which is what is now the primary part of the library, did not exist. I think it was completed in '82 and now another upgrade. Dang I'm getting old and in need of a renovation. I think JMU2FBS will give me the upgrade I need.
Dhall will close in May, be demolished in the summer, and a new 3-story bluestone building will be built on the same site. Ground level is restaurants like Chick fil a, chipotle, Einsteins, starbucks, etc. 2nd/main floor will be DHall as we know it now (all you can eat main campus eatery). 3rd floor will be offices for dining and a ~300 seat banquet room (there are no large areas to do catering on the west side of campus). 2 years for construction.
The library expansion and renovation is a hopeful project that will be funded as part of a state bond referendum, I think that's supposed to go to voters in the 2016 election. Wilson hall renovation will also be part of that bond request.
(08-20-2015 03:16 PM)TXGiant Wrote: Good thing he's answering the important questions like "what is JMU doing to make sure it is more welcoming to transgender students..."
That's important. Yawn.
Not to open a political or cultural debate... but why don't you think this is important question to ask the Prez of a college? Is it not important for school admins to be outspoken about impactful student life issues such as this (or rape culture or LGBT acceptance, etc)?
I don't know the exact percentages, but I can't imagine that the actual number of transgender students at JMU- or anywhere for that matter- is greater than .5%. I think societally, it is a non-issue that has been made an issue by a very aggressive lobbying group. I do think gay and lesbian issues are of greater importance- but that wasn't the question. The "rape culture" (again, I would debate the actual truth in that label) issue has become thrust into the spotlight by a very strong lobby that has distorted "facts" to bring their agenda to the forefront of national discussion. But, because that is the society that we live in, and because of the alleged incident that occurred with JMU students (although not at JMU) I think that needs to be addressed as well- but that wasn't the question either.
I suppose I think there are issues- not just athletics, that are of far greater importance.
It's a non-issue if you're not transgendered but for the few people who are it's very important. I haven't walked a mile in a trangendered person's shoes but I can't imagine it's easy. I'm sure it's very difficult every damn day.
I don't know the specs of the question or answer or where the idea (later in this thread) about officer escorts comes from, but back when I was in high school we had volunteer students escort openly gay students sometimes. Back then (1990s) gay was not an acceptable thing to be. The threat of getting beat up by packs of dimwits was very real. So whether there are 300 trans students at JMU or just one, I'd want JMU to be a safe place for them. To a trans person and their friends/fam this is very important, and I encourage them to ask the university president about any concerns they have. Fair game.
THAT SAID, no questions about conference realignment???
(08-20-2015 09:16 PM)Dukes 92 Wrote: going on the same site as d-hall. Supposedly will have bluestone to tie in better with campus. little more than 150k square feet. Also there is a proposal design bid out for expanding carrier library. $98million dollar project. Dining hall has an estimated 80million budget. http://dailycommercialnews.com/Economic/...-1005198W/
Very cool. Glad they're going with bluestone. Wish JMU would phase out the red brick and use bluestone each time they replace/re-do a building west of 81.
That reminds me, years ago there was talk of demolishing and rebuilding the village area. Any recent news on that?
(08-20-2015 04:44 PM)TXGiant Wrote: [quote='JMU_Degenerate' pid='12286855' dateline='1440102761']
[quote='TXGiant' pid='12286807' dateline='1440101816']
Good thing he's answering the important questions like "what is JMU doing to make sure it is more welcoming to transgender students..."
That's important. Yawn.
THAT SAID, no questions about conference realignment???
I tried. They didn't ask it. Seriously folks if you want FBS you're going to have to start taking opportunities like this to let the powers that be know.
(This post was last modified: 08-21-2015 07:15 AM by Madison 91 Forever.)
(08-20-2015 04:44 PM)TXGiant Wrote: [quote='JMU_Degenerate' pid='12286855' dateline='1440102761']
[quote='TXGiant' pid='12286807' dateline='1440101816']
Good thing he's answering the important questions like "what is JMU doing to make sure it is more welcoming to transgender students..."
That's important. Yawn.
THAT SAID, no questions about conference realignment???
I tried. They didn't ask it. Seriously folks if you want FBS you're going to have to start taking opportunities like this to let the powers that be know.
I tried, too. Maybe they asked the question but didn't tweet the response?
(08-21-2015 12:16 AM)madizoned-level2004 Wrote: That reminds me, years ago there was talk of demolishing and rebuilding the village area. Any recent news on that?
No progress there. It's definitely on the wishlist, but with the other capital projects planned over the next 5 years, the village has to wait. That came from Mr. King's mouth back in June at a conference I attended. Basically JMU doesn't have much incentive to replace them right now anyway.
Remembering PC Dukes, glad to see it still exists I think. Ate my fill there during various camps.
One time buddy and I worked Lefty's team camp for like 5 full days from 8am to 11pm at night flipping the scoreboards when we were 15 years old. Was something to do and wasn't particularly taxing.
End of week comes, opened an envelope to find a check for like $75. Another reason Brady should have camps, he's missing out on a high profit margin business.
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(08-20-2015 04:44 PM)TXGiant Wrote: [quote='JMU_Degenerate' pid='12286855' dateline='1440102761']
[quote='TXGiant' pid='12286807' dateline='1440101816']
Good thing he's answering the important questions like "what is JMU doing to make sure it is more welcoming to transgender students..."
That's important. Yawn.
THAT SAID, no questions about conference realignment???
I tried. They didn't ask it. Seriously folks if you want FBS you're going to have to start taking opportunities like this to let the powers that be know.
I tried, too. Maybe they asked the question but didn't tweet the response?
Quote:Athletics
On the issue of conference realignment, Alger said “there hasn't been any decision made about that.” He referenced the CarrSports report from 2013 and said that an academic fit for JMU, financial considerations, and travel and geography would be the guiding principles in making a conference decision.
Alger went on to say that athletics are a part of the educational environment provided at JMU, particularly activities like the Marching Royal Dukes. Alger also discussed how athletics can provide exposure for the university.
“Athletics could be a front porch in many respects for the university,” Alger said. “The reality is, it's a way that draws a lot of attention. It draws people back to campus."
Elsewhere, Alger said there’s no timetable on the Convocation Center project, as it is dependent on fundraising.
Quote:Philanthropy and civic engagement
JMU fundraised over $18.2 million over the past year, which is a record. JMU’s endowment is now over $80 million.
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(08-21-2015 08:52 AM)UofRfan Wrote: Remembering PC Dukes, glad to see it still exists I think. Ate my fill there during various camps.
One time buddy and I worked Lefty's team camp for like 5 full days from 8am to 11pm at night flipping the scoreboards when we were 15 years old. Was something to do and wasn't particularly taxing.
End of week comes, opened an envelope to find a check for like $75. Another reason Brady should have camps, he's missing out on a high profit margin business.
(08-20-2015 04:44 PM)TXGiant Wrote: I don't know the exact percentages, but I can't imagine that the actual number of transgender students at JMU- or anywhere for that matter- is greater than .5%. I think societally, it is a non-issue that has been made an issue by a very aggressive lobbying group. I do think gay and lesbian issues are of greater importance- but that wasn't the question. The "rape culture" (again, I would debate the actual truth in that label) issue has become thrust into the spotlight by a very strong lobby that has distorted "facts" to bring their agenda to the forefront of national discussion. But, because that is the society that we live in, and because of the alleged incident that occurred with JMU students (although not at JMU) I think that needs to be addressed as well- but that wasn't the question either.
I suppose I think there are issues- not just athletics, that are of far greater importance.
I would disagree - while the numbers are certainly small, I would say that it should be a priority that every fellow Duke feels comfortable and safe on our campus.
+1
I also dont think that sports is a priority for a University President.
Yea, this is why a university hires a strong Athletic Director , so the president can focus on ??? something.
If sports is not high on the priority list for university presidents, then why do they not delegate the authority of conference decisions over to the AD? Every university president in this country would climb over there desk if they could not be the final word.
The only reason anyone would ever say that this is not a huge priority for Alger or any other president is because changes happen so seldom and when they do it is then set for a number of years.
Sports are extremely high its just that there is not a lot of ongoing and daily maintenance for a president. I don't believe there is another department or program of study that even comes close to having the number of employees or payroll that is required of the athletic department.
You can not be serious.
Think it through...the athletic budget at JMU is what? $42 million? $45 million? Do you know what the entire university budget is at JMU? Close to $500 million. So, subtracting the high number of $45 mill for athletics, where or what is consuming the other $455 million JMU is spending?
Put down whatever you've been drinking, and mull on this fact: The sum of athletics expenditures is not the primary focus of JMU 's budget, and its sum budget is not the largest in actual dollars, payroll, or number of employees. Not even close. The largest budget, the largest payroll, and the largest number of employees is focused on Academic Affairs (which is the division governing academic programs). Out of all JMU employees (of which there are approximately 2200), 900+ are faculty. The largest payroll, despite the high salaries of head coaches, is to be found in the sum of academic programs.
This is a board where people interested in JMU's athletics programs can post their thoughts. And athletics may be by some measure the "front porch" to a university. Athletics, however, is not the only, or the biggest endeavor of any healthy university.
(08-20-2015 09:16 PM)Dukes 92 Wrote: going on the same site as d-hall. Supposedly will have bluestone to tie in better with campus. little more than 150k square feet. Also there is a proposal design bid out for expanding carrier library. $98million dollar project. Dining hall has an estimated 80million budget. http://dailycommercialnews.com/Economic/...-1005198W/
Hey! Stop it! Don't you know Alger's administration isn't doing anything. Like the record funds raised for the endowment, just stop it! Everyone knows because JMU isn't already in the SEC Jon hasn't been doing anything but monitoring.
Thanks. I hadn't seen the new budget for the coming academic year, which obviously is bigger than last years. Making athletics an even smaller part of the big picture (cue the headlines...JMU's President is diminishing Athletic's budget).
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(08-20-2015 05:04 PM)NH/JMU Saxkow Wrote: I would disagree - while the numbers are certainly small, I would say that it should be a priority that every fellow Duke feels comfortable and safe on our campus.
+1
I also dont think that sports is a priority for a University President.
Yea, this is why a university hires a strong Athletic Director , so the president can focus on ??? something.
If sports is not high on the priority list for university presidents, then why do they not delegate the authority of conference decisions over to the AD? Every university president in this country would climb over there desk if they could not be the final word.
The only reason anyone would ever say that this is not a huge priority for Alger or any other president is because changes happen so seldom and when they do it is then set for a number of years.
Sports are extremely high its just that there is not a lot of ongoing and daily maintenance for a president. I don't believe there is another department or program of study that even comes close to having the number of employees or payroll that is required of the athletic department.
You can not be serious.
Think it through...the athletic budget at JMU is what? $42 million? $45 million? Do you know what the entire university budget is at JMU? Close to $500 million. So, subtracting the high number of $45 mill for athletics, where or what is consuming the other $455 million JMU is spending?
Put down whatever you've been drinking, and mull on this fact: The sum of athletics expenditures is not the primary focus of JMU 's budget, and its sum budget is not the largest in actual dollars, payroll, or number of employees. Not even close. The largest budget, the largest payroll, and the largest number of employees is focused on Academic Affairs (which is the division governing academic programs). Out of all JMU employees (of which there are approximately 2200), 900+ are faculty. The largest payroll, despite the high salaries of head coaches, is to be found in the sum of academic programs.
This is a board where people interested in JMU's athletics programs can post their thoughts. And athletics may be by some measure the "front porch" to a university. Athletics, however, is not the only, or the biggest endeavor of any healthy university.
I'm encouraged by the fundraising, and glad to see that the endowment has grown to $80 million, though, of course, that remains pathetically small.
Alger is, of course, right that athletics are there to serve and supplement academics, not the other way around. For the most part, I think we do a pretty good job of that at JMU. My only beef is the failure to accept the Sun Belt, even if only for football, when no other FBS option is likely to be available for some time, and the lack of candid communication with the public by the athletics department.
(This post was last modified: 08-21-2015 11:09 AM by Madison 91 Forever.)
RE: Ask Alger 
, so the president can focus on ??? something.
