http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/08/texas-st...franchione

“It’s not ‘Mission Accomplished’ yet,” Franchione said.

We should write his wife a Thank You letter for letting him come here and not making him retire lol. I have given him my fair share of criticism but I think a lot our success on the field and in recruiting would have come much slower without him.

(08-19-2015 03:39 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/08/texas-st...franchione

“It’s not ‘Mission Accomplished’ yet,” Franchione said.

We should write his wife a Thank You letter for letting him come here and not making him retire lol. I have given him my fair share of criticism but I think a lot our success on the field and in recruiting would have come much slower without him.

Nice read, Thanks for posting . . . Hopefully this is the breakthrough year . . .

That was a nice little read. I live in the middle of Aggieland and I've heard nothing but bad things about Franchione because of his time here. He is genuinely despised. It's nice to see the other side.

They also did an article on Coach T.

John Thompson has had football jobs at 14 colleges — six in the SEC — and zero regrets

Texas State has so much potential. I certainly hope that being in the leaderless SBC won't hurt them long term.

I would like to see the Bobcats get more involved with the group in CUSA or the MWC. And set up as many games against old SWC schools as possible in OOC. If Texas State can gather some momentum somewhat similar to what UofH did in the 80's and 90's...then, the program could really make some positive strides. Talent makes for entertaining fb.

Good luck Bobcats.

(08-20-2015 12:13 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  Texas State has so much potential. I certainly hope that being in the leaderless SBC won't hurt them long term.

I would like to see the Bobcats get more involved with the group in CUSA or the MWC. And set up as many games against old SWC schools as possible in OOC. If Texas State can gather some momentum somewhat similar to what UofH did in the 80's and 90's...then, the program could really make some positive strides. Talent makes for entertaining fb.

Good luck Bobcats.

The Bobcats are doing quite well under Coach Fran and are a force to be reckoned with in the SBC. Not so much with Texas in the Big 12.

(08-20-2015 12:20 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  

(08-20-2015 12:13 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  Texas State has so much potential. I certainly hope that being in the leaderless SBC won't hurt them long term.

I would like to see the Bobcats get more involved with the group in CUSA or the MWC. And set up as many games against old SWC schools as possible in OOC. If Texas State can gather some momentum somewhat similar to what UofH did in the 80's and 90's...then, the program could really make some positive strides. Talent makes for entertaining fb.

Good luck Bobcats.

The Bobcats are doing quite well under Coach Fran and are a force to be reckoned with in the SBC. Not so much with Texas in the Big 12.

Yeah, I'm not trying to put Texas State in the Big 12. I was trying to get Texas State to develop rivalries against the old guard schools in the state. Which will help Texas St gain a foothold in the media versus the schools that actually get all the media coverage. Which will help foster growth for the school. Plus, all the schools in the old SWC are very close in proximity to Texas State...and should all bring good crowds to the games no matter where they are played. Playing the old SWC group also puts Texas State in a good position to be televised on a major network.

This is why I recommended that Texas State set up games against old SWC schools.

(08-20-2015 01:24 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  

(08-20-2015 12:20 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  

(08-20-2015 12:13 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  Texas State has so much potential. I certainly hope that being in the leaderless SBC won't hurt them long term.

I would like to see the Bobcats get more involved with the group in CUSA or the MWC. And set up as many games against old SWC schools as possible in OOC. If Texas State can gather some momentum somewhat similar to what UofH did in the 80's and 90's...then, the program could really make some positive strides. Talent makes for entertaining fb.

Good luck Bobcats.

The Bobcats are doing quite well under Coach Fran and are a force to be reckoned with in the SBC. Not so much with Texas in the Big 12.

Yeah, I'm not trying to put Texas State in the Big 12. I was trying to get Texas State to develop rivalries against the old guard schools in the state. Which will help Texas St gain a foothold in the media versus the schools that actually get all the media coverage. Which will help foster growth for the school. Plus, all the schools in the old SWC are very close in proximity to Texas State...and should all bring good crowds to the games no matter where they are played. Playing the old SWC group also puts Texas State in a good position to be televised on a major network.

This is why I recommended that Texas State set up games against old SWC schools.

Playing several of those SWC members would earn nothing more than an AAC or ESPN3 telecast... teams are just not very good.

(08-20-2015 01:27 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-20-2015 01:24 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  

(08-20-2015 12:20 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  

(08-20-2015 12:13 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  Texas State has so much potential. I certainly hope that being in the leaderless SBC won't hurt them long term.

I would like to see the Bobcats get more involved with the group in CUSA or the MWC. And set up as many games against old SWC schools as possible in OOC. If Texas State can gather some momentum somewhat similar to what UofH did in the 80's and 90's...then, the program could really make some positive strides. Talent makes for entertaining fb.

Good luck Bobcats.

The Bobcats are doing quite well under Coach Fran and are a force to be reckoned with in the SBC. Not so much with Texas in the Big 12.

Yeah, I'm not trying to put Texas State in the Big 12. I was trying to get Texas State to develop rivalries against the old guard schools in the state. Which will help Texas St gain a foothold in the media versus the schools that actually get all the media coverage. Which will help foster growth for the school. Plus, all the schools in the old SWC are very close in proximity to Texas State...and should all bring good crowds to the games no matter where they are played. Playing the old SWC group also puts Texas State in a good position to be televised on a major network.

This is why I recommended that Texas State set up games against old SWC schools.

Playing several of those SWC members would earn nothing more than an AAC or ESPN3 telecast... teams are just not very good.

The network that these games would be carried on is irrelevant.

What is important for Texas State...is to get games with established schools in their home state. They have already had games against aTm, Tech, UofH, UTSA and probably some others I have forgotten about. That's a great start and hopefully they will be able to continue that each year in the future.

Texas State doesn't need to grow nationally....they need to grow within their own state.

Baylor - last played 2007
Rice - last played 1987
SMU - just got a H/H with them 2019/20
A&M - last played 2005
TCU - last played 2009
Arkansas - 2016
UT - last played 1930
Texas Tech - 2/1 (2011, 12, 13)
Houston - 2010, 12, now H/H

Can't seem to get Rice and even though UT seems to play everyone else in TX, they have yet to (as far as we know) give us a call

(08-20-2015 01:27 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Playing several of those SWC members would earn nothing more than an AAC or ESPN3 telecast... teams are just not very good.

It's the sad affair of college athletics (particularly in Texas):

Say the following is true:
stAte is at 11-0
Texas State is 11-0
SMU/UH/Rice/UTSA is 5-6

if stAte came to San Marcos for the last game, it wouldn't be as well attended as if a Texas team with a losing record came in for the last game.

Even if the mythological stAte/Texas State game was for the conference championship.

Us Texans are a bit of a different breed. Bragging rights over your buddy's school takes precedence over conference championships.

(08-20-2015 01:42 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  Us Texans are a bit of a different breed. Bragging rights over your buddy's school takes precedence over conference championships.

Not just bragging rights....but, it is a freakin' blast to road trip to play schools that you know sooo many people at...as well as, tailgate and enjoy the game together. The best part of fb is sharing it with your buddies, no matter what school y'all go to.

(08-20-2015 01:42 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(08-20-2015 01:27 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Playing several of those SWC members would earn nothing more than an AAC or ESPN3 telecast... teams are just not very good.

It's the sad affair of college athletics (particularly in Texas):

Say the following is true:
stAte is at 11-0
Texas State is 11-0
SMU/UH/Rice/UTSA is 5-6

if stAte came to San Marcos for the last game, it wouldn't be as well attended as if a Texas team with a losing record came in for the last game.

Even if the mythological stAte/Texas State game was for the conference championship.

Us Texans are a bit of a different breed. Bragging rights over your buddy's school takes precedence over conference championships.

This is true for 95% of schools out there, definitely not a Texas thing.

(08-20-2015 01:52 PM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  

(08-20-2015 01:42 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(08-20-2015 01:27 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Playing several of those SWC members would earn nothing more than an AAC or ESPN3 telecast... teams are just not very good.

It's the sad affair of college athletics (particularly in Texas):

Say the following is true:
stAte is at 11-0
Texas State is 11-0
SMU/UH/Rice/UTSA is 5-6

if stAte came to San Marcos for the last game, it wouldn't be as well attended as if a Texas team with a losing record came in for the last game.

Even if the mythological stAte/Texas State game was for the conference championship.

Us Texans are a bit of a different breed. Bragging rights over your buddy's school takes precedence over conference championships.

This is true for 95% of schools out there, definitely not a Texas thing.

But with 20 DI schools (12 FBS and 8 FCS) there's a lot more competition for those rights to brag.

(08-20-2015 01:42 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(08-20-2015 01:27 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Playing several of those SWC members would earn nothing more than an AAC or ESPN3 telecast... teams are just not very good.

It's the sad affair of college athletics (particularly in Texas):

Say the following is true:
stAte is at 11-0
Texas State is 11-0
SMU/UH/Rice/UTSA is 5-6

if stAte came to San Marcos for the last game, it wouldn't be as well attended as if a Texas team with a losing record came in for the last game.

Even if the mythological stAte/Texas State game was for the conference championship.

Us Texans are a bit of a different breed. Bragging rights over your buddy's school takes precedence over conference championships.

I remember North Texas fans complaining about that. At some point, the reasoning actually became that North Texas was so bad in the Sun Belt because they were playing Sun Belt Teams and didn't care. If they moved to a league with more Texas teams, they would instantly become more competitive.

The funny thing is, that actually happened. For some illogical reason, they started playing better against the lower quality in state competition, and I'm pretty sure the larger crowds had something to do with it.

Of course coming from a state where instate matchups are unheard of outside of the D2 level, you guys are always going to sound strange.

(08-20-2015 01:49 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  

(08-20-2015 01:42 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  Us Texans are a bit of a different breed. Bragging rights over your buddy's school takes precedence over conference championships.

Not just bragging rights....but, it is a freakin' blast to road trip to play schools that you know sooo many people at...as well as, tailgate and enjoy the game together. The best part of fb is sharing it with your buddies, no matter what school y'all go to.

I prefer winning. I don't give a rats behind whether or not any of my buddies come to games...because they wouldn't be rooting for us anyway.

If you fans won't show up to watch a conference title game because it isn't against a local team, you need new fans.

(08-20-2015 02:21 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-20-2015 01:49 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  

(08-20-2015 01:42 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  Us Texans are a bit of a different breed. Bragging rights over your buddy's school takes precedence over conference championships.

Not just bragging rights....but, it is a freakin' blast to road trip to play schools that you know sooo many people at...as well as, tailgate and enjoy the game together. The best part of fb is sharing it with your buddies, no matter what school y'all go to.

I prefer winning. I don't give a rats behind whether or not any of my buddies come to games...because they wouldn't be rooting for us anyway.

If you fans won't show up to watch a conference title game because it isn't against a local team, you need new fans.

I don't have any control over winning and losing. I back Texas schools whether they win or lose.
I don't care who my buddies root for....that has nothing to do with me.
What we are telling you...is that Ark St carries no weight in Texas. There would be a bigger crowd for UTSA vs Texas St than there would be for Ark St and Texas St. Simple as that...you get more seats filled when a Texas school plays a Texas school.

It's not that we don't like playing out of state teams, it's that we LOVE beating in state **** talkers. We are still developing our FBS profile in Texas it will start to even out eventually.

(08-20-2015 02:43 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  It's not that we don't like playing out of state teams, it's that we LOVE beating in state **** talkers. We are still developing our FBS profile in Texas it will start to even out eventually.

Totally agreed.
Actually, Ark St should be a great rival in the future for Texas St. The two states really love to hate each other. Should make for some nice sparks when they battle.

(08-20-2015 02:17 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I remember North Texas fans complaining about that. At some point, the reasoning actually became that North Texas was so bad in the Sun Belt because they were playing Sun Belt Teams and didn't care. If they moved to a league with more Texas teams, they would instantly become more competitive.

The funny thing is, that actually happened. For some illogical reason, they started playing better against the lower quality in state competition, and I'm pretty sure the larger crowds had something to do with it.

Of course coming from a state where instate matchups are unheard of outside of the D2 level, you guys are always going to sound strange.

To me, UNT fans used that as an excuse.

I don't care where we are, I want to put the best possible product on the field. I want to see my team beat everyone.

Of course, I am of the mind that winning fixes everything. You win against teams all over the country, and you'll have plenty of fans, which will then make you more attractive to other conferences with Texas teams, or on the flip side, help make our existing conference attractive to other Texas teams to bring them in.