(08-17-2015 03:30 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 03:24 PM)VA49er Wrote:  I have a feeling student loan debt is playing a role in adults living with parents even after finding a job. So glad I didn't have to live with my parents after college. Talk about killing one's mojo with the ladies......

I think you're probably right.

It's also delaying the housing market rebound. Baby boomers will need the millennials to be ready to buy the large suburban homes they need to offload.

(08-17-2015 02:31 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

Quote:While it’s not good for man to live alone, it’s even worse for him to live at home with his parents.

A recent Pew Research poll reveals that though employment is up, the number of millennials living on their own is down. This failure to launch reflects a widespread cultural regression. By returning home after graduation, this generation’s doing more than just perpetuating adolescence. We’re losing at life.

There might be more room for activities at your parent’s house but there’s little room for personal growth. And if being determines consciousness, then you’ll bring your future down with you when you move back into the basement. It’s time to grow up. It’s time to move out.

We Should Love Our Parents Enough Never To Move Back In With Them

Sure, student loans suck. More than our parents, we’ve had to grapple with unrealistic dreams built on unsteady mountains of student debt. But there’s a place you can go when you’re down on your luck and low on your dough. It’s called the YMCA.

If that sounds harsh, imagine asking your old man if you can live in your old room. By moving home, you could save some cash but only at the cost of your character.

Our parents might love us but they don’t like us that much. And they shouldn’t. In civil society, the family exists to foster maturity and prepare offspring for eventual adulthood not perpetual childhood. Taxing their generosity robs them of the investment of their lifetime. Every mother and father wants to provide their kid with a better and brighter future. After two decades of sacrifice—whether they’ll admit it or not—they want a son with a career, not an overgrown boy with a neckbeard. We ought to actualize the potential they’ve poured into us. We should become adults they’re proud of.

Yea Bro, Living at Home Isn’t Cool

Whatever you do though, don’t kid yourself. Living at home is anything but cool and everyone knows it. “Hey girl, want to come back to my parent’s place?” is a line that even Ryan Gosling couldn’t pull off. Winston Churchill once observed that the spaces we occupy end up shaping us. At 22, our mother’s house is turning us back into children. Like continence, literacy, and a job, a place of your own stands as a general benchmark of responsibility. Go find one.

Cutting a rent check is the first big step toward self-reliance. Millennials don’t have to blaze trails, brave the wilderness, or build cabins to make it in the real world. We just need to scout Craigslist for a place, set up direct deposit, and maybe lower our expectations. That first apartment won’t be ideal but it’ll be necessary. More than a roof, it represents an investment in the future.

Tough finances are a burden but they don’t have to be a permanent roadblock. If you’re drowning in student debt and rent breaks the budget, find a roommate, sublease, or couch surf. Do whatever it takes, because to make it in America, you have to make it out of your mom’s house first.

Get Ahead By Betting On Yourself

None of this should discount the difficulty of leaving home. Lord knows my living situation is hardly on fleek. The place exudes a kind of refugee camp chic with makeshift bookshelves made out of milk crates, scrounged furniture, and a few cheap Ikea pieces. Food and clothing present their own challenges. Since graduation a few months ago, I’ve bleached colors and burnt minute-rice; I’ve shrunk clothes and set grease fires. It’s been rough, unpleasant, and always worth it.

Coming and going each day reminds me that I’m on my own. It’s not a great feat. An apartment’s just the most approachable manifestation of day-in and day-out maturity. Stupid or smart decisions determine whether the rent gets paid or if the lease is lost. If disaster strikes, no one’s coming to the rescue. The world won’t pause for me to get back on. And those four walls remind me, that for better or worse, I’m an adult and that each day my mundane adventure is trying to live like one.

I wouldn’t have it any other way. A cheap apartment produces perseverance; soggy ramen noodles, character; and an on time rent check, hope—hope that I can build an adult life. The goal is simple. You want your dad to say, “That’s my boy. He’s got a place of his own.”

As a generation, we can live at home and languish or we can move out and make our on way. It’s time we take a risk. It’s time we bet on ourselves. If we don’t, no one else will.

http://thefederalist.com/2015/08/03/yo-m...e-at-life/

^ that's silly....every situation is different, if people get along with their parents well, and want to get their financial situation in order...go for it.

If you can't stand your parents/siblings...or simply HAVE to be independent...it's not for you.

I haven't lived with my parents in like 6-7 years...but I get those that still do.

I lived with my parents for a while after graduation. But I'm pretty easy-going, and they're easy going, and I wasn't around all that much anyway since I was working and had stuff going on besides work. So it worked okay. I did decide to save up for a good-sized downpayment on a house rather than getting an apartment. Also I paid back money I borrowed from my parents for my first car, though that didn't take too long.

Lived a couple of years of post-college life at mom and dads. It allowed me to save up some money and I built up some job experience and got a master's degree. I don't regret it and won't apologize for it ever. I couldn't care less what any woman around my age thinks of it. The article talks of looking out for your future. Any man concerned for his future should be leery of marriage, which makes the point "chicks don't dig guys living in mom's basement" ironic.

(08-17-2015 03:35 PM)Hitch Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 03:25 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 02:56 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  I'm torn on this one... If my girls were working and investing in the years right after college I would be happy to hand some rooms and privacy over to them while they hopefully look for "the guy".

But I won't have them loafing around not building their future. If they think they have money to party and take trips then they have money for rent.

My take would be a little different for my daughter. Boys need to become men, however.

I have the opposite view. It is extremely important that my daughter knows she can live independently, even if later on she doesn't find herself as the primary breadwinner.

I'm more old fashioned. I'd rather my daughter be at home and having her courters get vetted through me than have her living independently and riding the c*ck carousel to the point she is unmarriagable.

(08-17-2015 03:30 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  The article is arguing that you make it happen. I did and was much better off for it. The 20s should be the best days of your life. My best times were being broke and hopping bar to bar for $1 Coronas and $2 margaritas, stretching $20 on a pack of smoke and a night of boozing, and slaying poontang. I remember one of the places I hung out had an ATM next door that dispensed $5 bills with no bank fees. Those were the days.

SHYEAH! Man I'm right there with you... Late 90's, early 2000's... '98 and '99 especially, while I was in college. But hell, I shlubbed off and always went to my GF's house because her parents were both working. We skipped school at least 3 days a week to go back to her place. Being placed on suspension that semester for bad grades was well worth it.

(08-17-2015 03:54 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 03:35 PM)Hitch Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 03:25 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 02:56 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  I'm torn on this one... If my girls were working and investing in the years right after college I would be happy to hand some rooms and privacy over to them while they hopefully look for "the guy".

But I won't have them loafing around not building their future. If they think they have money to party and take trips then they have money for rent.

My take would be a little different for my daughter. Boys need to become men, however.

I have the opposite view. It is extremely important that my daughter knows she can live independently, even if later on she doesn't find herself as the primary breadwinner.

I'm more old fashioned. I'd rather my daughter be at home and having her courters get vetted through me than have her living independently and riding the c*ck carousel to the point she is unmarriagable.

DICK! I was drinking something when I read that! I almost spat it all over my keyboard and monitors.

(08-17-2015 03:54 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 03:35 PM)Hitch Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 03:25 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 02:56 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  I'm torn on this one... If my girls were working and investing in the years right after college I would be happy to hand some rooms and privacy over to them while they hopefully look for "the guy".

But I won't have them loafing around not building their future. If they think they have money to party and take trips then they have money for rent.

My take would be a little different for my daughter. Boys need to become men, however.

I have the opposite view. It is extremely important that my daughter knows she can live independently, even if later on she doesn't find herself as the primary breadwinner.

I'm more old fashioned. I'd rather my daughter be at home and having her courters get vetted through me than have her living independently and riding the c*ck carousel to the point she is unmarriagable.

You'd better like them all, because the one you don't is the one they'll marry.

(08-17-2015 03:54 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 03:35 PM)Hitch Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 03:25 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 02:56 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  I'm torn on this one... If my girls were working and investing in the years right after college I would be happy to hand some rooms and privacy over to them while they hopefully look for "the guy".

But I won't have them loafing around not building their future. If they think they have money to party and take trips then they have money for rent.

My take would be a little different for my daughter. Boys need to become men, however.

I have the opposite view. It is extremely important that my daughter knows she can live independently, even if later on she doesn't find herself as the primary breadwinner.

I'm more old fashioned. I'd rather my daughter be at home and having her courters get vetted through me than have her living independently and riding the c*ck carousel to the point she is unmarriagable.

That'll be her decision, not yours. Also, what does independence have to do with sexual partners? If she's DTF, there's nothing you can do about it.

(08-17-2015 04:10 PM)Hitch Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 03:54 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 03:35 PM)Hitch Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 03:25 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 02:56 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  I'm torn on this one... If my girls were working and investing in the years right after college I would be happy to hand some rooms and privacy over to them while they hopefully look for "the guy".

But I won't have them loafing around not building their future. If they think they have money to party and take trips then they have money for rent.

My take would be a little different for my daughter. Boys need to become men, however.

I have the opposite view. It is extremely important that my daughter knows she can live independently, even if later on she doesn't find herself as the primary breadwinner.

I'm more old fashioned. I'd rather my daughter be at home and having her courters get vetted through me than have her living independently and riding the c*ck carousel to the point she is unmarriagable.

That'll be her decision, not yours. Also, what does independence have to do with sexual partners? If she's DTF, there's nothing you can do about it.

That notion scares the schit out of me, but I have to try.

The day when each of my three kids left for college was the last day that any of them lived in my house.

All three got apartments, with friends, after college, which they all finished in 4 years without one cent of debt.

(08-17-2015 04:15 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 04:10 PM)Hitch Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 03:54 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 03:35 PM)Hitch Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 03:25 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  My take would be a little different for my daughter. Boys need to become men, however.

I have the opposite view. It is extremely important that my daughter knows she can live independently, even if later on she doesn't find herself as the primary breadwinner.

I'm more old fashioned. I'd rather my daughter be at home and having her courters get vetted through me than have her living independently and riding the c*ck carousel to the point she is unmarriagable.

That'll be her decision, not yours. Also, what does independence have to do with sexual partners? If she's DTF, there's nothing you can do about it.

That notion scares the schit out of me, but I have to try.

If you teach them morals, respect for others and herself, you've done your job. We have to hope they carry those with them.

My cousin is becoming THIS.

It's pretty bad.

I can understand some folks, living at home to save money, as part of a plan, but the ones who are moving home and end up playing GTAV every day for 6 hours and procrastibate are something else.

(08-17-2015 04:45 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  My cousin is becoming THIS.

It's pretty bad.

I can understand some folks, living at home to save money, as part of a plan, but the ones who are moving home and end up playing GTAV every day for 6 hours and procrastibate are something else.

I agree. I know some who moved back home, worked for 2 years then entered law or medical school. I also know some who did it and saved over 50% of their checks before moving out. Its a your mileage may vary.

(08-17-2015 04:45 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  My cousin is becoming THIS.

It's pretty bad.

I can understand some folks, living at home to save money, as part of a plan, but the ones who are moving home and end up playing GTAV every day for 6 hours and procrastibate are something else.

I explained to both of mine, you're either in school or working, but you're not doing to sit on my couch doing nothing all day.

(08-17-2015 04:15 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 04:10 PM)Hitch Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 03:54 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 03:35 PM)Hitch Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 03:25 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  My take would be a little different for my daughter. Boys need to become men, however.

I have the opposite view. It is extremely important that my daughter knows she can live independently, even if later on she doesn't find herself as the primary breadwinner.

I'm more old fashioned. I'd rather my daughter be at home and having her courters get vetted through me than have her living independently and riding the c*ck carousel to the point she is unmarriagable.

That'll be her decision, not yours. Also, what does independence have to do with sexual partners? If she's DTF, there's nothing you can do about it.

That notion scares the schit out of me, but I have to try.

Dude, if you don't suck as a parent, it won't likely be a problem.

I'll add this, I blame the education system in large part.

There are a lot of kids out there who know where they are and where they want to be and honestly have zero clue as to how to get from here to there.

I saw a lot of that teaching. It is a serious problem.

I don't believe anybody honestly wants to sit around and move back to mom and dad.

my child will rule all the millennial losers as they blame their servitude on everything but the lack of hard work and discipline


bwahahahahahahahahahahaha


seriously though, everyone has to find their own path.

(08-17-2015 04:53 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I don't believe anybody honestly wants to sit around and move back to mom and dad.

I agree. If they're doing it, it's likely because they don't see better options. Whether any are actually available is a different conversation.

(08-17-2015 03:07 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 03:00 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  I have a friend who has degrees in Hospitality and Tourism Management, History, and is now pursuing a degree in Business.

Complete idiot. But his parents are even bigger suckers for funding this nonsense.

I'd love getting a degree in History as a side item, but what in the hell is "Hospitality and Tourism Management???"

Reminds me of some of those college football players that go to the draft after their Soph year and are majoring in General Studies. Are you kidding me? General Studies?

It's a specialized business degree for managing hotel chains, cruises, etc. Exactly what it sounds like. Actually a great degree of you're willing to travel.