http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/arc...wn-as-ualr


They just dropped the UA from their name. Does this mean that Little Rock is breaking away from the Razorbacks? If so? They could add football as well in the future without people in Fayetteville say so as well. UAB, LSU-Shreveport, SC-Upstate and some others should do the same to be different from the main campus, and away from the dictatorship of the main campus.

Look at who dropped changed their names recently?

Milwaukee
Charlotte
Fairbanks
Chattanooga

This could be a huge step for the Trojans to go forward for them to have their own identity.

UALR is not a branch college of the University of Arkansas. It is its own school.

The name change is simply a branding strategy employed by the other schools you have cited.

No need to debate about it, but "branch campus" is not a put-down.

If both campuses have the same board of regents/directors/whatever and president, as Minnesota does for five different campuses (four of which have their own separate athletics from the main U), then I don't think it's incorrect to call them a "branch campus".

(08-14-2015 10:45 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  No need to debate about it, but "branch campus" is not a put-down.

If both campuses have the same board of regents/directors/whatever and president, as Minnesota does for five different campuses (four of which have their own separate athletics from the main U), then I don't think it's incorrect to call them a "branch campus".

In normal usage, a branch campus is one that has administrators under the supervision of the chancellor or president of another campus.

For example Arkansas State - Beebe used to be a branch campus, the chief administrator answered to the chief administrator of the Jonesboro campus. Then it became an independent campus and the chief administrator (chancellor) answers to the System president in Little Rock.

The chief administrator of UALR is the chancellor he answers director to the University of Arkansas president and board of trustees (president is based in Little Rock). The person in charge of the UALR branch campus in Benton answers directly to the Chancellor (and actually several vice-Chancellors) at UALR.

Branch campus has a fairly specific meaning in the collegiate world, and UALR or UTSA are not branch campuses.

The UALR Chancellor answers to the U of Ark board of trustees and president -- then it's a branch campus.

Same with Minnesota - Duluth to Minnesota.


It's not a put-down. Not worth arguing over it.

The have a stadium to play in if they started a football program. But the trojans is a terrible mascot for them. Is there nothing unique in Arkansas or Little Rock to use as a mascot?
What about the Little Rock Arkansawyers

(08-14-2015 02:18 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  The UALR Chancellor answers to the U of Ark board of trustees and president -- then it's a branch campus.

Same with Minnesota - Duluth to Minnesota.

This is what I would assume.

For a school to be fully independent it would have its own BOT.

Sometimes it does not matter either way. For the most part does it matter that Buffalo is part of the SUNY system? For most of the discussions here it does not but they are part of the system.

With the issues with UAB, you wonder if schools like Little Rock, Chattanooga, Milwaukee, UTSA and so forth should have their own BOTs to run the schools? What Arkansas's BOTs only cares about the main campus and do not care about the others. This rebranded just came out of nowhere. I might expect UAFS to become University of Fort Smith, Arkansas State-Beebe to Beebe State, UAMs to University of Morellton and Monticello, UAPB to University of Pine Bluff, Arkansas Tech-Ozark to Ozark Tech and so forth.

(08-14-2015 08:49 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  With the issues with UAB, you wonder if schools like Little Rock, Chattanooga, Milwaukee, UTSA and so forth should have their own BOTs to run the schools? What Arkansas's BOTs only cares about the main campus and do not care about the others. This rebranded just came out of nowhere. I might expect UAFS to become University of Fort Smith, Arkansas State-Beebe to Beebe State, UAMs to University of Morellton and Monticello, UAPB to University of Pine Bluff, Arkansas Tech-Ozark to Ozark Tech and so forth.

Beebe State?

When I first heard Beebe I was thinking of the deposed B12 commissioner.

(08-14-2015 02:18 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  The UALR Chancellor answers to the U of Ark board of trustees and president -- then it's a branch campus.

Same with Minnesota - Duluth to Minnesota.


It's not a put-down. Not worth arguing over it.

If they were a branch campus they would have the SAME president or chancellor as the main campus and would not be a chartered University onto themselves. Arkstfan is correct. All 34 universities in GA answer to the same Board of Regents. That doesn't make Georgia Tech a branch campus of the University of Georgia. There is a reason why UTSA and UALR have their own president and internal governance. They aren't branches. They are universities.

If Little Rock ever leaves the Sun Belt, it will be prepared for joining the WAC (Bakersfield, Kansas City) or Summit (Omaha, Fort Wayne) as two schools in each of those conferences have dropped the system names from their athletic brands.

(08-15-2015 06:19 AM)panama Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 02:18 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  The UALR Chancellor answers to the U of Ark board of trustees and president -- then it's a branch campus.

Same with Minnesota - Duluth to Minnesota.


It's not a put-down. Not worth arguing over it.

If they were a branch campus they would have the SAME president or chancellor as the main campus and would not be a chartered University onto themselves. Arkstfan is correct. All 34 universities in GA answer to the same Board of Regents. That doesn't make Georgia Tech a branch campus of the University of Georgia. There is a reason why UTSA and UALR have their own president and internal governance. They aren't branches. They are universities.

They do have the same president as the main campus. That's what I just said. UALR doesn't have a separate president and board.

All of the branch campuses of the U of MN are "universities unto themselves" too. Being a branch campus doesn't imply otherwise.


A university system can choose to designate separate campuses as having equal stature, rather than being branch campuses. Georgia is a good example, as is NY.

(08-15-2015 08:11 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  If Little Rock ever leaves the Sun Belt, it will be prepared for joining the WAC (Bakersfield, Kansas City) or Summit (Omaha, Fort Wayne) as two schools in each of those conferences have dropped the system names from their athletic brands.

In a perfect world, I'd keep the Summit footprint as no further south than Denver/Kansas City. But they've already added Oral Roberts back, unfortunately.

(08-15-2015 09:02 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(08-15-2015 06:19 AM)panama Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 02:18 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  The UALR Chancellor answers to the U of Ark board of trustees and president -- then it's a branch campus.

Same with Minnesota - Duluth to Minnesota.


It's not a put-down. Not worth arguing over it.

If they were a branch campus they would have the SAME president or chancellor as the main campus and would not be a chartered University onto themselves. Arkstfan is correct. All 34 universities in GA answer to the same Board of Regents. That doesn't make Georgia Tech a branch campus of the University of Georgia. There is a reason why UTSA and UALR have their own president and internal governance. They aren't branches. They are universities.

They do have the same president as the main campus. That's what I just said. UALR doesn't have a separate president and board.

All of the branch campuses of the U of MN are "universities unto themselves" too. Being a branch campus doesn't imply otherwise.


A university system can choose to designate separate campuses as having equal stature, rather than being branch campuses. Georgia is a good example, as is NY.

I am sorry but branch campus and university are not the same thing. UA and UALR share a BoT but each has its own chancellor. The President is the President of the UA System not of the individual universities. As far as I can tell from reading their history UALR has never been a branch campus of UA. Now GSU was a branch campus of Georgia Tech from 1913 to about 1935. That is we were an extension of the same university. Similarly Georgia Perimeter College's campuses will become branches of Georgia State University in 2016. Branch or extension campuses don't have their own governance. And the UA System website refers to UALR as its own university.

(08-15-2015 09:23 AM)panama Wrote:  

(08-15-2015 09:02 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(08-15-2015 06:19 AM)panama Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 02:18 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  The UALR Chancellor answers to the U of Ark board of trustees and president -- then it's a branch campus.

Same with Minnesota - Duluth to Minnesota.


It's not a put-down. Not worth arguing over it.

If they were a branch campus they would have the SAME president or chancellor as the main campus and would not be a chartered University onto themselves. Arkstfan is correct. All 34 universities in GA answer to the same Board of Regents. That doesn't make Georgia Tech a branch campus of the University of Georgia. There is a reason why UTSA and UALR have their own president and internal governance. They aren't branches. They are universities.

They do have the same president as the main campus. That's what I just said. UALR doesn't have a separate president and board.

All of the branch campuses of the U of MN are "universities unto themselves" too. Being a branch campus doesn't imply otherwise.


A university system can choose to designate separate campuses as having equal stature, rather than being branch campuses. Georgia is a good example, as is NY.

I am sorry but branch campus and university are not the same thing. UA and UALR share a BoT but each has its own chancellor. The President is the President of the UA System not of the individual universities. As far as I can tell from reading their history UALR has never been a branch campus of UA. Now GSU was a branch campus of Georgia Tech from 1913 to about 1935. That is we were an extension of the same university. Similarly Georgia Perimeter College's campuses will become branches of Georgia State University in 2016. Branch or extension campuses don't have their own governance. And the UA System website refers to UALR as its own university.

You can use your own definition of branch campus, however you'd like. UALR doesn't have its own governance, it shares the same board and president with Arkansas. A branch campus can still be its "own university".

Minnesota-Duluth and UALR are both examples of branch campuses, of Minnesota and Arkansas respectively.

(08-15-2015 09:27 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  You can use your own definition of branch campus, however you'd like. UALR doesn't have its own governance, it shares the same board and president with Arkansas.

On that definition, Arkansas is also a branch campus, since it doesn't have its own board and president either.

(08-15-2015 10:29 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(08-15-2015 09:27 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  You can use your own definition of branch campus, however you'd like. UALR doesn't have its own governance, it shares the same board and president with Arkansas.

On that definition, Arkansas is also a branch campus, since it doesn't have its own board and president either.

The first campus in the system is the main campus.

is little rock Trojans a tribute to Bill Clinton??