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ACC teams' win% trends since 1992
I have tabulated the records in conference play only for the current ACC membership since FSU and Miami joined the ACC and Big East respectively. I ignored OOC games, since OOC SOS differs greatly from team to team, while in-conference schedules are pretty consistent.

Keep in mind that, for teams that moved from the BE to the ACC, their records are a hybrid of the two leagues. While some may disagree with me on this, IMO the two leagues had been close enough in overall strength that this shouldn't invalidate the analysis.

I calculated three things: Overall conference records for the entire period, 8-year trailing averages (starting with the 1999 season), and improvement (or decline) in 8 year averages between 1999 and 2014. This is how the teams ranked in each category.

Overall Win %
.1. Florida St........82.1
.2. Virginia Tech...71.2
.3. Miami.............68.6
.4. Clemson.........60.3
.5. Georgia Tech...58.7
.6. Boston College.51.5
.7. Virginia...........51.1
.8. UNC...............50.0
.9. Syracuse.........46.9
10. Pitt.................46.5
11. NC State.........44.6
12. Wake Forest....32.1
13. Duke..............19.6

Most recent 8 year average
.1. Florida St........73.4
.2. Clemson........ 70.3
.2. Virginia Tech...70.3
.4. Georgia Tech...64.1
.5. Pitt.................55.2
.6. Miami.............50.0
.6. Boston College 50.0
.8. UNC................48.4
.9. NC State..........39.1
10. Wake Forest.....37.5
11. Virginia............34.4
12. Duke...............31.3
13. Syracuse..........31.0

Improvement/decline since 1999
.1. Pitt..................+28.8
.2. Clemson...........+17.2
.3. Wake Forest......+14.1
.4. Georgia Tech.....+12.5
.5. Duke................+10.9
.6. Boston College...(01.0)
.7. Virginia Tech......(01.9)
.7. NC State...........(01.9)
.9. UNC..................(14.1)
10. Florida State.......(23.4)
11. Miami................(31.1)
12. Virginia..............(31.3)
13. Syracuse............(38.6)

If Maryland had remained in the conference, they would have ranked 12th in overall conference win %, just between NC State and Wake Forest.

Looking at records by Division, based on current divisions, the Coastal had an overall average of 51.9% (50.5% 8-yr trailing) in conference play, and the Atlantic was 51.2% overall (48.6% 8-year). These numbers don't add up to 100% because of the changes in conference membership during the period.
08-06-2015 12:03 PM
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So, if I understand this, you're pointing out that the most improved teams over the last 8 years are: Pitt, Clemson, Wake Forest, Ga Tech and Duke.

Whereas the teams which have declined the most in the last 8 years are: UNC, FSU, Miami, UVa and Syracuse.

Three teams are about the now as they were back then: BC, Va Tech and NC State.

Is that about right?
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(08-06-2015 12:29 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  So, if I understand this, you're pointing out that the most improved teams over the last 8 years are: Pitt, Clemson, Wake Forest, Ga Tech and Duke.

Whereas the teams which have declined the most in the last 8 years are: UNC, FSU, Miami, UVa and Syracuse.

Three teams are about the now as they were back then: BC, Va Tech and NC State.

Is that about right?

The use of trailing averages is a statistical smoothing technique designed to eliminate the noise of short term variation in data to identify long-term trends.

I would have reversed the order you used in your second paragraph, since Syracuse was the one with the strongest negative trend, not UNC. But essentially, you have it correctly, as long as you understand that the improvement/decline applies only to conference regular season play.

Considering where Wake Forest and Duke were starting from, they would have almost had to improve. In the 17 years after Steve Spurrier left Duke, the Devils averaged fewer than one conference win per year. At their lowest point, their 8 year average had dropped below 5% (one win every 20 games).

Likewise, the teams that started out at the very top were most likely to decline, just because there was almost no way they could improve. If you look at the time frame, 1999 was the first year after FSU joined the league in which you could calculate an 8 year average. For UNC, that coincided with the first recruiting classes post Mack Brown - their decline from that era isn't a big surprise. And I think anyone who has been paying attention realized that Miami has been a shell of its former self recently.

For a numbers geek like myself, I find data like this interesting. But it still only looks at the past, and isn't highly predictive of the future - especially in a sport like college football, where coaching changes have such a powerful influence on performance.
08-06-2015 01:19 PM
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(08-06-2015 01:19 PM)ken d Wrote:  ...teams that started out at the very top were most likely to decline, just because there was almost no way they could improve.

This is particularly true of FSU, which IIRC only lost like 2 games in their first 9 years of ACC play.
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So Miami is boosted by their old big east records?
08-06-2015 07:09 PM
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