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(09-03-2015 10:08 AM)stever20 Wrote:  The problem is though that 4/5 of the Big 12's stuff was when they were a 12 team conference. Last 5 years only would have been 1 playoff appearance.

Can't really argue with that....03-banghead
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(09-03-2015 10:21 AM)Otacon Wrote:  
(09-03-2015 10:08 AM)stever20 Wrote:  The problem is though that 4/5 of the Big 12's stuff was when they were a 12 team conference. Last 5 years only would have been 1 playoff appearance.

Can't really argue with that....03-banghead

Yeah. Part of it is the 9 conference games have hurt some. Then the 3 teams that would have had a shot- Kansas St 12, Baylor 13,14- all had putrid OOC schedules. Also a problem was Kansas St 12 lost to Baylor by 28. Baylor 13 lost to Oklahoma St by 32. Baylor 14 lost to WVU by 14. That doesn't help their cases much at all.
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I think the P5 must be shrunk to the P4. which yields 64 teams. The playoff would do to 8 teams, consisting of the 4 conference champions and the four highest rank P4 teams not conference champions. 07-coffee3
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(09-03-2015 10:20 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(09-03-2015 10:12 AM)Okielite Wrote:  
(09-03-2015 10:08 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(09-03-2015 10:04 AM)Okielite Wrote:  
(09-03-2015 05:37 AM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  I don't even understand why OkieLite has his panties in a bunch. WHEN the BigXII implodes, they're going to land on their feet and likely be better off than they are now anyhow. Lighten up little buddy! Jesus...

I'm not the one who is upset here. I fully admit the Big 12 has problems and that the OOC schedule for Baylor and OSU are terrible. I have no problem being realistic about the situation.

You guys on the other hand are in the other conference with problems claiming it's invincible even though there are major perception issues, major fan support issues, and partial members. It makes you upset when I point out facts like only 2 schools in the ACC would have made the playoff in the last decade with a whopping total of 3 appearances. That's the funny part.

I know OSU will be fine no matter what happens. I dont' need Louisville fans to tell me that. OSU would be the richest AD in the entire ACC including Notre Dame. Were rich *****!

The problem is though that 4/5 of the Big 12's stuff was when they were a 12 team conference. Last 5 years only would have been 1 playoff appearance.
You are not getting it. The point is that 9 of the 10 Big 12 schools are capable of having a playoff level season and have done so in the last decade. Only 2-3 schools in the ACC have had a playoff level season in the last decade.

And if you take Jameis Winston off the list there was only 1 ACC playoff team in the last decade. That's 1 spot out of 40. Jameis literally saved the ACC by himself.

What team do you root for?

The problem is a lot of what you are using was the 12 team model. It's been a LOT different since going to 10 teams.. And you damn well know it.

For football- I just love all of it. Don't really have a favorite. I want good games. And the Big 12 the way they are so scared to death of actually playing a decent OOC game for the most part- just doesn't get it.

And anyone on here will let you know that I'm far from an ACC fanboy.
If you're afraid to say what team you root for that says a lot about you.

Essentially you like to go run into conversations and make fun of specific schools but since you dont' say who you root for nobody can talk back. Must mean you are really sensitive and fragile and can handle dishing it out but can't take it. Sounds like a ***** move to me.

The Big 12 has some great OOC schedules and some terrible ones. Last year OSU played FSU, WVU played Bama, KSU played Auburn, OU played TEnnessee.

TCU for example has Minnesota, Arkansas, Colorado, CAl, Stanford, and tOSU.
WVU has MAryland, BYU, Tennessee, NCSt, V-TEch, Missouri, and Penn ST.

Do some research before you make a fool of yourself.

What team do you root for? I bet you wont' answer LAffin.
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(09-03-2015 10:21 AM)Otacon Wrote:  
(09-03-2015 10:08 AM)stever20 Wrote:  The problem is though that 4/5 of the Big 12's stuff was when they were a 12 team conference. Last 5 years only would have been 1 playoff appearance.

Can't really argue with that....03-banghead

That's one more than the ACC would have had without Jameis Winston. Just sayin.

And quite frankly there were not any ACC teams in the conversation while the BIg 12 was in the discussion almost every year.

You guys are clinging to one person to carry an entire conference. Now he's gone.
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(09-03-2015 10:25 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Yeah. Part of it is the 9 conference games have hurt some. Then the 3 teams that would have had a shot- Kansas St 12, Baylor 13,14- all had putrid OOC schedules. Also a problem was Kansas St 12 lost to Baylor by 28. Baylor 13 lost to Oklahoma St by 32. Baylor 14 lost to WVU by 14. That doesn't help their cases much at all.

You can't really compare Out of Conference with In Conference games....They're two different animals, IMO. You play your In Conference foes all the time, they know you... Out of Conference, sure it would matter more if your opponent beat you by 14, but it isn't the same thing when your Conference mate beats you by 14. There's the familiarity of that team.

Wisconsin got beat by like 59 points in their conference championship and they're ranked this year....
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(09-03-2015 10:30 AM)Okielite Wrote:  
(09-03-2015 10:21 AM)Otacon Wrote:  
(09-03-2015 10:08 AM)stever20 Wrote:  The problem is though that 4/5 of the Big 12's stuff was when they were a 12 team conference. Last 5 years only would have been 1 playoff appearance.

Can't really argue with that....03-banghead

That's one more than the ACC would have had without Jameis Winston. Just sayin.

And quite frankly there were not any ACC teams in the conversation while the BIg 12 was in the discussion almost every year.

You guys are clinging to one person to carry an entire conference. Now he's gone.

But the fact is he was there and he did/would have taken them to 2 playoff trips. You can't just erase him.
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(09-03-2015 10:25 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  I think the P5 must be shrunk to the P4. which yields 64 teams. The playoff would do to 8 teams, consisting of the 4 conference champions and the four highest rank P4 teams not conference champions. 07-coffee3

Have you actually thought about what would have to occur to make that happen?

Relegating all the g-5 conferences to form a new league would be a major undertaking that they likely would not want.
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(09-03-2015 10:32 AM)Otacon Wrote:  
(09-03-2015 10:25 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Yeah. Part of it is the 9 conference games have hurt some. Then the 3 teams that would have had a shot- Kansas St 12, Baylor 13,14- all had putrid OOC schedules. Also a problem was Kansas St 12 lost to Baylor by 28. Baylor 13 lost to Oklahoma St by 32. Baylor 14 lost to WVU by 14. That doesn't help their cases much at all.

You can't really compare Out of Conference with In Conference games....They're two different animals, IMO. You play your In Conference foes all the time, they know you... Out of Conference, sure it would matter more if your opponent beat you by 14, but it isn't the same thing when your Conference mate beats you by 14. There's the familiarity of that team.

Wisconsin got beat by like 59 points in their conference championship and they're ranked this year....

You've said some stupid ****- but that takes the cake. Wisconsin wasn't trying to make the playoff. But a team trying to make the playoff getting beat by even 14- but even moreso the other 2- a blowout loss is fatal. You can't have a 28 or 32 point loss and expect to make the playoff.
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(09-03-2015 10:33 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(09-03-2015 10:30 AM)Okielite Wrote:  
(09-03-2015 10:21 AM)Otacon Wrote:  
(09-03-2015 10:08 AM)stever20 Wrote:  The problem is though that 4/5 of the Big 12's stuff was when they were a 12 team conference. Last 5 years only would have been 1 playoff appearance.

Can't really argue with that....03-banghead

That's one more than the ACC would have had without Jameis Winston. Just sayin.

And quite frankly there were not any ACC teams in the conversation while the BIg 12 was in the discussion almost every year.

You guys are clinging to one person to carry an entire conference. Now he's gone.

But the fact is he was there and he did/would have taken them to 2 playoff trips. You can't just erase him.
Nope but we all know that the other 13 teams in the conference were not in the playoff discussion the last 5 years.

What team do you root for?

Pretty lame to dish out criticism for schools while not allowing the same in return. You must know how fragile you really are. LAffin
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(09-03-2015 10:35 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(09-03-2015 10:32 AM)Otacon Wrote:  
(09-03-2015 10:25 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Yeah. Part of it is the 9 conference games have hurt some. Then the 3 teams that would have had a shot- Kansas St 12, Baylor 13,14- all had putrid OOC schedules. Also a problem was Kansas St 12 lost to Baylor by 28. Baylor 13 lost to Oklahoma St by 32. Baylor 14 lost to WVU by 14. That doesn't help their cases much at all.

You can't really compare Out of Conference with In Conference games....They're two different animals, IMO. You play your In Conference foes all the time, they know you... Out of Conference, sure it would matter more if your opponent beat you by 14, but it isn't the same thing when your Conference mate beats you by 14. There's the familiarity of that team.

Wisconsin got beat by like 59 points in their conference championship and they're ranked this year....

You've said some stupid ****- but that takes the cake. Wisconsin wasn't trying to make the playoff. But a team trying to make the playoff getting beat by even 14- but even moreso the other 2- a blowout loss is fatal. You can't have a 28 or 32 point loss and expect to make the playoff.
You sure ;like to criticize people but are afraid to even say who you root for. Says a lot about you.

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I'm probably most an Alabama fan quite frankly.
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(09-03-2015 10:37 AM)stever20 Wrote:  I'm probably most an Alabama fan quite frankly.

Did you go to school there?

Picking the most successful program in the last 5 years is lame if you have no connection.

Thanks for taking the time to give me negative rep. You really are a fragile and sensitive little female dog. LAffin.
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(09-03-2015 10:25 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  I think the P5 must be shrunk to the P4. which yields 64 teams. The playoff would do to 8 teams, consisting of the 4 conference champions and the four highest rank P4 teams not conference champions. 07-coffee3

Just wondering... Would you still advocate a move to a 64-team P4 it meant kicking Louisville out of the ACC to make room for an all-in Notre Dame?
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(09-03-2015 10:33 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(09-03-2015 10:30 AM)Okielite Wrote:  
(09-03-2015 10:21 AM)Otacon Wrote:  
(09-03-2015 10:08 AM)stever20 Wrote:  The problem is though that 4/5 of the Big 12's stuff was when they were a 12 team conference. Last 5 years only would have been 1 playoff appearance.

Can't really argue with that....03-banghead

That's one more than the ACC would have had without Jameis Winston. Just sayin.

And quite frankly there were not any ACC teams in the conversation while the BIg 12 was in the discussion almost every year.

You guys are clinging to one person to carry an entire conference. Now he's gone.

But the fact is he was there and he did/would have taken them to 2 playoff trips. You can't just erase him.

If you take the best player off of any team, especially if it's the QB, & they're more likely to be out of the CFP hunt. If you take the best player off of a Big 12 team its the same time. Another weak Okie argument.
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