(07-31-2015 11:07 AM)NIU007 Wrote: (07-31-2015 10:56 AM)RobertN Wrote: (07-31-2015 05:04 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (07-30-2015 11:20 PM)Fitbud Wrote: (07-30-2015 10:33 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Yes. At least the ones like Liz Warren and Bernie Sanders do. And most of the "base." Then there are the ones like Reid and Pelosi and Dodd and Frank, who are okay as long as the profits end up in their pockets, just nobody else.
I don't. I have no problems with profits add long as they were obtained legally.
You're not a national democrat leader either, are you?
Look, I probably should have clarified. I think there are a lot of democrat followers who don't believe all profits are bad. I will modify my comment to that extent. But look at the rhetoric from the leadership.
Obscene profits.
Health care is a right, nobody should profit from it.
Tax the "rich."
At some point, you've made enough money.
Windfall profits.
Those and other class warfare demagoguery clearly show a hatred for profits. And look at their policies:
Highest corporate income tax rate in the developed world.
Constantly raising costs for businesses, and constantly increasing the regulatory hoops through which they must jump, without providing any relief.
Well, we have a large debt to pay. Who do you want to tax? The poor? The middle class? (Note: yes, I know you guys will say "cut government spending" and you won't need it).
I'm still waiting to hear what spending they would cut.
Clearly there is a LOT of spending that
can and should be cut, starting with the bloated federal bureaucratic machine that functions largely as a very well paid social program. You know something like 6 of the 10 wealthiest Zip codes in the Country are the areas surrounding DC? Now, why would that be? What on earth is one government doing spending 4 TRILLION Dollars a YEAR?!? Good grief.
But, alas, I know in the real world, the real world of Nanny-staters, cradle to grave entitlement culture and everyone standing around with their hand out, while actively encouraging more and more people that will contribute little, but take even more to simply walk on in, that's probably not a realistic proposition at this point. At least not until we reach the true abyss of bankruptcy.
So what can we do instead? Tax the "rich". Sure. Take all their money and give it to people that haven't earned it, but apparently "deserve" it. Send some to the debt too, I guess. Tax corporations. Sure take all their money and assets as well. Slice 'em up and sell it off. Send that money to others also, send some to the debt.
Now, where are we? Are we still spending the same amount year after year? So how do we pay for all this largesse the next time around? The producers are sapped, the companies shuttered and there's no more to be squeezed out of them. Thats an extreme, clearly, but this is in essence what is happening, in a slow painful death kind of way. And it's not helping. At all. We are still piling up something in the neighborhood of 500 MM in debt, per DAY.
So what's left? Simple.
Do what OWL's suggesting- take the freaking shackles OFF this crap economy. The American people, the productive ones at least, are the best and the brightest there is. Why create ever more obstacles, instead of ever more opportunity?
GROW the economy. Make it a "buyers market" for employees cause Companies NEED to hire people. Guess what? Wages necessarily go UP! Guess what then? People will want to, and can, go back to work. Guess what then? Fewer people on the public dole, fewer resources going out. Guess what else then? More people paying IN. Tax receipts go UP as well. Guess what else then then? The annual deficits go down. We aren't adding to the debt nearly as quickly. Then then then, we can get a handle on the debt as a lower % of GDP. We're no longer Greece! YAY!
This disinterested, ill prepared, only concerned with being an
ultra social justice crusader, community agitator has proven beyond any semblance of a doubt he nor his team has the slightest idea how to get the economy going again in any meaningful way. Psssst! zerO! Taking it from one person and just giving it to another doesn't grow squat. It's just robbing Peter to pay Paul.
So let's finally, and mercifully, get these 16 yo "Leave Brittany Alone" screaming types OUT of any positions of responsibility and let the adults back in charge.
The business of America is business. It's the only hope we have.