In an effort to skirt the play-on-Sundays issue, would the Big 12 consider taking BYU as a football-only member? BYU would be able to leave the rest of their sports in the WCC while giving the Big 12 a power-conference-level football team. Could also add UCF/Cincy/etc. as a football-only from the east to get to 12 members. The eastern member could move their olympic sports to the Big East or A-10. I am not advocating for this to happen, just discussing if the Big 12 would even consider accepting a 10/12 arrangement. Thoughts?

(07-29-2015 09:44 AM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  In an effort to skirt the play-on-Sundays issue, would the Big 12 consider taking BYU as a football-only member? BYU would be able to leave the rest of their sports in the WCC while giving the Big 12 a power-conference-level football team. Could also add UCF/Cincy/etc. as a football-only from the east to get to 12 members. The eastern member could move their olympic sports to the Big East or A-10. I am not advocating for this to happen, just discussing if the Big 12 would even consider accepting a 10/12 arrangement. Thoughts?

Chuck Nineas and others have said the no-Sunday play was NOT an issue. I think you are beating a dead horse there.

(07-29-2015 09:48 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  

(07-29-2015 09:44 AM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  In an effort to skirt the play-on-Sundays issue, would the Big 12 consider taking BYU as a football-only member? BYU would be able to leave the rest of their sports in the WCC while giving the Big 12 a power-conference-level football team. Could also add UCF/Cincy/etc. as a football-only from the east to get to 12 members. The eastern member could move their olympic sports to the Big East or A-10. I am not advocating for this to happen, just discussing if the Big 12 would even consider accepting a 10/12 arrangement. Thoughts?

Chuck Nineas and others have said the no-Sunday play was NOT an issue. I think you are beating a dead horse there.

In that case, I'm surprised BYU hasn't been invited already. They seem like a lock.

(07-29-2015 09:59 AM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  

(07-29-2015 09:48 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  

(07-29-2015 09:44 AM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  In an effort to skirt the play-on-Sundays issue, would the Big 12 consider taking BYU as a football-only member? BYU would be able to leave the rest of their sports in the WCC while giving the Big 12 a power-conference-level football team. Could also add UCF/Cincy/etc. as a football-only from the east to get to 12 members. The eastern member could move their olympic sports to the Big East or A-10. I am not advocating for this to happen, just discussing if the Big 12 would even consider accepting a 10/12 arrangement. Thoughts?

Chuck Nineas and others have said the no-Sunday play was NOT an issue. I think you are beating a dead horse there.

In that case, I'm surprised BYU hasn't been invited already. They seem like a lock.

If they were a lock, they would've been invited when WV and TCU were added.

My thoughts are that in the very near future we will see the end of football only members within all FBS conferences.

If my count is correct there are only 3 FBS teams that are not all sports members of their FBS conference. Norte Dame as a semi-indepentant fooball member of the ACC and Idaho & NMSU as football only of the Sun Belt.

(07-29-2015 09:59 AM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  

(07-29-2015 09:48 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  

(07-29-2015 09:44 AM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  In an effort to skirt the play-on-Sundays issue, would the Big 12 consider taking BYU as a football-only member? BYU would be able to leave the rest of their sports in the WCC while giving the Big 12 a power-conference-level football team. Could also add UCF/Cincy/etc. as a football-only from the east to get to 12 members. The eastern member could move their olympic sports to the Big East or A-10. I am not advocating for this to happen, just discussing if the Big 12 would even consider accepting a 10/12 arrangement. Thoughts?

Chuck Nineas and others have said the no-Sunday play was NOT an issue. I think you are beating a dead horse there.

In that case, I'm surprised BYU hasn't been invited already. They seem like a lock.

It is their TV deal that killed them. A little something like the LHN

(07-29-2015 10:03 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  My thoughts are that in the very near future we will see the end of football only members within all FBS conferences.

If my count is correct there are only 3 FBS teams that are not all sports members of their FBS conference. Norte Dame as a semi-indepentant fooball member of the ACC and Idaho & NMSU as football only of the Sun Belt.

Four ... UMass is in MAC football for one last year.

(07-29-2015 10:03 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  My thoughts are that in the very near future we will see the end of football only members within all FBS conferences.

If my count is correct there are only 3 FBS teams that are not all sports members of their FBS conference. Norte Dame as a semi-indepentant fooball member of the ACC and Idaho & NMSU as football only of the Sun Belt.

Five total if I counted right (although technically Notre Dame is a full ACC member who just doesn't participate in ACC football (independent schedulling considered something different than being in a different conference)). You have those three plus Hawaii in the Mountain West and Navy in the American, both as football onlys.

(07-29-2015 10:03 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  My thoughts are that in the very near future we will see the end of football only members within all FBS conferences.

If my count is correct there are only 3 FBS teams that are not all sports members of their FBS conference. Norte Dame as a semi-indepentant fooball member of the ACC and Idaho & NMSU as football only of the Sun Belt.

ND isn't anything close to a football-only member of the ACC.

Idaho, NMSU, Hawaii and Navy are football-only members going forward, with UMass playing its last season in the MAC.

If the Sun Belt doesn't care about starting a CCG, then they could let those two go. But they aren't getting to 12 without them, unless they want to add three FCS move-ups at once (Missouri St, Eastern KY and Coastal Carolina).

(07-29-2015 10:03 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  My thoughts are that in the very near future we will see the end of football only members within all FBS conferences.

If my count is correct there are only 3 FBS teams that are not all sports members of their FBS conference. Norte Dame as a semi-indepentant fooball member of the ACC and Idaho & NMSU as football only of the Sun Belt.

Navy is a football only member of the AAC.

(07-29-2015 10:08 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(07-29-2015 10:03 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  My thoughts are that in the very near future we will see the end of football only members within all FBS conferences.

If my count is correct there are only 3 FBS teams that are not all sports members of their FBS conference. Norte Dame as a semi-indepentant fooball member of the ACC and Idaho & NMSU as football only of the Sun Belt.

Four ... UMass is in MAC football for one last year.

I was counting them as indepentant along with Army and BYU, since that is what they are about to be.

(07-29-2015 10:14 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(07-29-2015 10:08 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(07-29-2015 10:03 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  My thoughts are that in the very near future we will see the end of football only members within all FBS conferences.

If my count is correct there are only 3 FBS teams that are not all sports members of their FBS conference. Norte Dame as a semi-indepentant fooball member of the ACC and Idaho & NMSU as football only of the Sun Belt.

Four ... UMass is in MAC football for one last year.

I was counting them as independent along with Army and BYU, since that is what they are about to be.

Hawaii is a football only member of the Mountain West.

(07-29-2015 10:31 AM)jukeboxhero Wrote:  

(07-29-2015 10:14 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(07-29-2015 10:08 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(07-29-2015 10:03 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  My thoughts are that in the very near future we will see the end of football only members within all FBS conferences.

If my count is correct there are only 3 FBS teams that are not all sports members of their FBS conference. Norte Dame as a semi-indepentant fooball member of the ACC and Idaho & NMSU as football only of the Sun Belt.

Four ... UMass is in MAC football for one last year.

I was counting them as independent along with Army and BYU, since that is what they are about to be.

Hawaii is a football only member of the Mountain West.

Seems like there are more of them lately, not less.

(07-29-2015 10:31 AM)jukeboxhero Wrote:  

(07-29-2015 10:14 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(07-29-2015 10:08 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(07-29-2015 10:03 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  My thoughts are that in the very near future we will see the end of football only members within all FBS conferences.

If my count is correct there are only 3 FBS teams that are not all sports members of their FBS conference. Norte Dame as a semi-indepentant fooball member of the ACC and Idaho & NMSU as football only of the Sun Belt.

Four ... UMass is in MAC football for one last year.

I was counting them as independent along with Army and BYU, since that is what they are about to be.

Hawaii is a football only member of the Mountain West.

Navy is a football only for the American

(07-29-2015 10:12 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-29-2015 10:03 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  My thoughts are that in the very near future we will see the end of football only members within all FBS conferences.

If my count is correct there are only 3 FBS teams that are not all sports members of their FBS conference. Norte Dame as a semi-indepentant fooball member of the ACC and Idaho & NMSU as football only of the Sun Belt.

Navy is a football only member of the AAC.

Completely forgot about them!

(07-29-2015 10:31 AM)jukeboxhero Wrote:  

(07-29-2015 10:14 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(07-29-2015 10:08 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(07-29-2015 10:03 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  My thoughts are that in the very near future we will see the end of football only members within all FBS conferences.

If my count is correct there are only 3 FBS teams that are not all sports members of their FBS conference. Norte Dame as a semi-indepentant fooball member of the ACC and Idaho & NMSU as football only of the Sun Belt.

Four ... UMass is in MAC football for one last year.

I was counting them as independent along with Army and BYU, since that is what they are about to be.

Hawaii is a football only member of the Mountain West.

Jeez, forgot about them too!

(07-29-2015 09:44 AM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  In an effort to skirt the play-on-Sundays issue, would the Big 12 consider taking BYU as a football-only member? BYU would be able to leave the rest of their sports in the WCC while giving the Big 12 a power-conference-level football team. Could also add UCF/Cincy/etc. as a football-only from the east to get to 12 members. The eastern member could move their olympic sports to the Big East or A-10. I am not advocating for this to happen, just discussing if the Big 12 would even consider accepting a 10/12 arrangement. Thoughts?

UCF will not pass a death penalty to the rest of its sports programs just to get into a P5. We didn't do it for the BE when it was pushed and we won't do it now.

(07-29-2015 10:57 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  UCF will not pass a death penalty to the rest of its sports programs just to get into a P5. We didn't do it for the BE when it was pushed and we won't do it now.

If the Big XII told UCF Football Only, they would jump in a second and pray that the Southland or the Ohio Valley takes all other sports(Going back to the MAC or the Belt is not happening)

Only BYU and Boise would make any sense as a football only.

Schools like Cinci have basketball programs and other sports to consider but BYU and Boise could easily join in FB only and leave other sports in the WCC like BYU does. Big Sky might also be an option for other sports at Boise. I don't think the Big 12 would do that but it's at least a possibility.

I see no reason to consider any of the other options as football only unless you consider possibly ECU. But they have no accomplishments that compare to BYU and Boise and don't have the national following to drive TV ratings.

(07-29-2015 11:08 AM)lance99 Wrote:  

(07-29-2015 10:57 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  UCF will not pass a death penalty to the rest of its sports programs just to get into a P5. We didn't do it for the BE when it was pushed and we won't do it now.

If the Big XII told UCF Football Only, they would jump in a second and pray that the Southland or the Ohio Valley takes all other sports(Going back to the MAC or the Belt is not happening)

Why not the Atlantic Sun, if we're talking about one-bid leagues anyway (to March Madness)?

The only time any non-UCF fans pay attention to UCF basketball would be March Madness, so being in the ASun would probably give them the easiest path to a bid.