You guys are right. This conference sucks, we should be lucky to have our 1 bid that we get.

In fact, the conference might be so down this year, they just might take our auto bid from us.

(07-31-2015 10:29 AM)Artifice Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 07:47 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 06:50 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  This could end up being the year we get 2-3 bids in the dance. If we don't start getting 2 soon, then it could end up being a bad/hard stigma to break.

I doubt it. Wku lost a fair amount. Charlotte is basically a new team. La Tech lost a ton. USM is in a terrible place right now.

I see two decent but unlikely NCAA contenders in MT and UTEP. Id probably throw wku in thia category too. Two legit NCAA contenders in ODU and UAB.

Rice is a wild card. They could be good, but I think they're still a year away. Look forward to watching them this year.

Unless ODU and UAB absolutely dominate the conference and do exceptionally well ooc, I just don't see more than 1 bid. I think we're going to be 15+ in conference rpi this year.

This is the most accurate take in this thread on CUSA hoops this coming season. If anyone besides ODU or UAB got an NCAA bid, it'd be at least a bit of a surprise. If both of them got in, it would be both a surprise, and a win for what will likely be a down season for CUSA.

Having that tournament in Birmingham again is such an advantage for UAB. It's not their fault, but it's a good part of the reason they will be contenders for an NCAA bid.

I agree - that's a good breakdown.
I do think 2 bids is achievable but I'm not banking on it.
Niner- glad you noticed Rice. We've got young talent coming in and it's year 2 for coach Mike Rhoades. We might not have the OOC for an at-large but I do think we'll step up into the 5-6 contenders for the league title.

(07-30-2015 04:33 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 08:15 AM)monarchoptimist Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 12:16 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(07-28-2015 05:28 PM)monarchoptimist Wrote:  You can add LA Tech and USM to the not trying list as well.

Thanks for the compliment. Tech has won back to back CUSA season champs, won the conference by 2 games (15-3), 83-24 record over the last three years, and has a 29 home game winning streak. Plus Tech has actually beat good teams on the road- Oklahoma,Florida State,Georgia, Texas A&M.
Tech has accomplished all that without even trying!!!

BTW Tech's non conference SOS, overall season SOS, overall Power rating, predictive power rating was higher than ODU.

On top of that Tech was 38th in SOS impact, every CUSA team benefited from playing Tech.

You would probably compare football scores to basketball scores to prove that basketball doesn't have home court advantage like another ODU fan.


https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basket...s-by-other

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basket...s-by-other

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basket...ng-by-team

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basket...ng-by-team

First, those stats you quote are either inaccurate or meaningless. But lets be clear, La Tech's non-conference SOS was about 200 spots worse than ODU's based on RPI which is what the selection committee uses. That's not an opinion or up for debate. It's a fact.
Secondly, I thought LA Tech last season, like USM the year before, was an at-large caliber team. LA Tech won the conference outright and had a good win/loss record out of conference. Great coach, fantastic team and momentum from a few years of success in a row. But let's cut to the chase: LA Tech didn't make the NCAA tournament in the last three years.

So, honest question: what is the reason LA Tech was left out of the tournament last year if everything was so successful? They weren't even the top at-large candidate from CUSA despite everything you listed. How do you account for that?

Politics. There's a serious "eastern bias" in NCAA mens basketball. It's been proven a thousand times.

But I agree, LA Tech should have been dancing in 2015, and when they weren't the WHOLE conference should have been complaining. But they didn't. At least I didn't hear any CUSA fans directing animosity towards the NCAA or the committee. To the contrary, most of the hatred was directed at LA Tech for not getting in. Everybody --including me-- was quick to congratulate UAB for dancing, but nobody seemed to give a crap that the CUSA regular season champion stayed home after losing in OT to UAB, at UAB.

I chalk it up to CUSA 3.0 still being too new. We don't look out for each other the way CUSA 1.0 and CUSA 2.0 did. We don't genuinely respect each other yet. I'm hoping that this changes in time....but unfortunately, we're all still jockeying for position in a 14-team conference that was thrown together 3 years ago. I hate to say it.....but this conference has GOT to start looking out for one another.

The Selection Committee doesn't keep deserving teams out because of their location. Maybe bubble teams get punished by this, but a highly deserving team is rarely left out of the tournament.

Complaining about what? That they lost a tournament game? That we have a conference tournament? The game was also in Birmingham, not at UAB. And, I think a lot of people forget the hell we received after knocking you guys out. MTSU and UAB were ripped apart and told how undeserving either of us would be, and what an embarrassment it would be when we played in the tournament. Your particular fan base was one of the worst offenders on here.(not saying you in particular)

Who looked out for what in CUSA 2.0? Half the league wanted out from day 1, and the conference tournament had a permanent location in Memphis.

If you want to look out for the conference, fix these things:

SOS of 186
RPI of 56 with a win total in the mid 20s
Losses to UAB, UNT, and ULaLa
2 top 100 wins
7 top 150 wins
4 OOC opponents over 300 in the RPI

You guys like to point fingers at everybody else, but how about looking in the mirror first. You keep missing the tournament because you keep having minimal top 100 numbers. You think that's a coincidence?

CUSA is a 1 bid league. Occasionally you will sneak in a 2nd. I don't see that changing any time soon.

(08-01-2015 08:57 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  CUSA is a 1 bid league. Occasionally you will sneak in a 2nd. I don't see that changing any time soon.

You should focus more on UCF Basketball and far less on CUSA Basketball.

(08-01-2015 08:01 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 04:33 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 08:15 AM)monarchoptimist Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 12:16 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(07-28-2015 05:28 PM)monarchoptimist Wrote:  You can add LA Tech and USM to the not trying list as well.

Thanks for the compliment. Tech has won back to back CUSA season champs, won the conference by 2 games (15-3), 83-24 record over the last three years, and has a 29 home game winning streak. Plus Tech has actually beat good teams on the road- Oklahoma,Florida State,Georgia, Texas A&M.
Tech has accomplished all that without even trying!!!

BTW Tech's non conference SOS, overall season SOS, overall Power rating, predictive power rating was higher than ODU.

On top of that Tech was 38th in SOS impact, every CUSA team benefited from playing Tech.

You would probably compare football scores to basketball scores to prove that basketball doesn't have home court advantage like another ODU fan.


https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basket...s-by-other

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basket...s-by-other

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basket...ng-by-team

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basket...ng-by-team

First, those stats you quote are either inaccurate or meaningless. But lets be clear, La Tech's non-conference SOS was about 200 spots worse than ODU's based on RPI which is what the selection committee uses. That's not an opinion or up for debate. It's a fact.
Secondly, I thought LA Tech last season, like USM the year before, was an at-large caliber team. LA Tech won the conference outright and had a good win/loss record out of conference. Great coach, fantastic team and momentum from a few years of success in a row. But let's cut to the chase: LA Tech didn't make the NCAA tournament in the last three years.

So, honest question: what is the reason LA Tech was left out of the tournament last year if everything was so successful? They weren't even the top at-large candidate from CUSA despite everything you listed. How do you account for that?

Politics. There's a serious "eastern bias" in NCAA mens basketball. It's been proven a thousand times.

But I agree, LA Tech should have been dancing in 2015, and when they weren't the WHOLE conference should have been complaining. But they didn't. At least I didn't hear any CUSA fans directing animosity towards the NCAA or the committee. To the contrary, most of the hatred was directed at LA Tech for not getting in. Everybody --including me-- was quick to congratulate UAB for dancing, but nobody seemed to give a crap that the CUSA regular season champion stayed home after losing in OT to UAB, at UAB.

I chalk it up to CUSA 3.0 still being too new. We don't look out for each other the way CUSA 1.0 and CUSA 2.0 did. We don't genuinely respect each other yet. I'm hoping that this changes in time....but unfortunately, we're all still jockeying for position in a 14-team conference that was thrown together 3 years ago. I hate to say it.....but this conference has GOT to start looking out for one another.

The Selection Committee doesn't keep deserving teams out because of their location. Maybe bubble teams get punished by this, but a highly deserving team is rarely left out of the tournament.

Complaining about what? That they lost a tournament game? That we have a conference tournament? The game was also in Birmingham, not at UAB. And, I think a lot of people forget the hell we received after knocking you guys out. MTSU and UAB were ripped apart and told how undeserving either of us would be, and what an embarrassment it would be when we played in the tournament. Your particular fan base was one of the worst offenders on here.(not saying you in particular)

Who looked out for what in CUSA 2.0? Half the league wanted out from day 1, and the conference tournament had a permanent location in Memphis.

If you want to look out for the conference, fix these things:

SOS of 186
RPI of 56 with a win total in the mid 20s
Losses to UAB, UNT, and ULaLa
2 top 100 wins
7 top 150 wins
4 OOC opponents over 300 in the RPI

You guys like to point fingers at everybody else, but how about looking in the mirror first. You keep missing the tournament because you keep having minimal top 100 numbers. You think that's a coincidence?

No, I think it's a "bias", and I've already told you that. For the record, the RPI and SOS also have bias' built in 'em too.

"Complaining" about CUSA only receiving 1 bid while some other conferences get a ridiculous number of bids is the only way it's going to change. Until people like you grow a pair and complain with the rest of us about it, they are going to continue to ignore CUSA and give more bids to unworthy eastern teams and P5's that are less deserving.

And LA Tech's CUSA tournament OT loss was played at UAB. Let's quit kidding ourselves. You can stop the politically correct "not UAB, but Birmingham" nonsense...you sound silly when you say it. For all intents and purposes, that was a home game for UAB, in front of their home crowd.

When speaking of that bias:

A few years back, Marshall was CUSA Tournament runner-up. That team beat Cincinnati, WVU, Southern Miss twice (at-large, no. 9 seed), and had a home win over Iona. Beat Iona by 19. It was 25 most of the second half. Lost at Syracuse by 6, who was unbeaten and No. 1 at the time.

Marshall's RPI was one slot below Iona. Marshall had a better SOS, a better non-conference SOS, and yeah, a 19-point win over Iona, who lost in their tournament.

ESPN ran up the flag for Iona, a NY school in a league they had a contract with.
Iona got a bid. Marshall was a 5-seed in the NIT, forced to bus back to MTSU for a Tuesday game, after getting back from Memphis on a bus early Sunday morning. It was one of like, 3 first round NIT games not on TV. MTSU had lost much earlier in their league tournament. Marshall had played 4 games in four days, one of which went 2 or 3 OT. No reason that game wasn't Wednesday. The kicker? MTSU, who beat MU, had its second round game at Tenneessee the following Sunday or Monday. It was the last second round game.

Back to the selection: Jay Bilas was applauding the committee for selecting Iona, how they "challenged themselves" non-conference. They never once said the word Marshall. They completely ignored better quality wins, tougher SOS, tougher non-conference SOS, and blatantly head to head.

My point? NEVER say definitively what the committee looks for. They look for whatever they want to justify getting who they want into the tournament.

And don't ever apply logic to the matter. There is none. It wasn't anti-Marshall. The NCAA was an agenda for Iona (who mysteriously had two Marshall players transfer there after sitting out as NQ's at Marshall. Ironic, huh)... while the NIT was just clearly not caring one bit about how it was put together.

That three day span killed momentum and enthusiasm that had built at Marshall. The program slid quickly from there. Even I, who went to a ton of games then, have only been to 2-3 since. The NCAA killed my enthusiasm for the sport. I don't even follow it nationally like I used to.

(08-02-2015 12:49 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 08:01 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 04:33 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 08:15 AM)monarchoptimist Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 12:16 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Thanks for the compliment. Tech has won back to back CUSA season champs, won the conference by 2 games (15-3), 83-24 record over the last three years, and has a 29 home game winning streak. Plus Tech has actually beat good teams on the road- Oklahoma,Florida State,Georgia, Texas A&M.
Tech has accomplished all that without even trying!!!

BTW Tech's non conference SOS, overall season SOS, overall Power rating, predictive power rating was higher than ODU.

On top of that Tech was 38th in SOS impact, every CUSA team benefited from playing Tech.

You would probably compare football scores to basketball scores to prove that basketball doesn't have home court advantage like another ODU fan.


https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basket...s-by-other

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basket...s-by-other

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basket...ng-by-team

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basket...ng-by-team

First, those stats you quote are either inaccurate or meaningless. But lets be clear, La Tech's non-conference SOS was about 200 spots worse than ODU's based on RPI which is what the selection committee uses. That's not an opinion or up for debate. It's a fact.
Secondly, I thought LA Tech last season, like USM the year before, was an at-large caliber team. LA Tech won the conference outright and had a good win/loss record out of conference. Great coach, fantastic team and momentum from a few years of success in a row. But let's cut to the chase: LA Tech didn't make the NCAA tournament in the last three years.

So, honest question: what is the reason LA Tech was left out of the tournament last year if everything was so successful? They weren't even the top at-large candidate from CUSA despite everything you listed. How do you account for that?

Politics. There's a serious "eastern bias" in NCAA mens basketball. It's been proven a thousand times.

But I agree, LA Tech should have been dancing in 2015, and when they weren't the WHOLE conference should have been complaining. But they didn't. At least I didn't hear any CUSA fans directing animosity towards the NCAA or the committee. To the contrary, most of the hatred was directed at LA Tech for not getting in. Everybody --including me-- was quick to congratulate UAB for dancing, but nobody seemed to give a crap that the CUSA regular season champion stayed home after losing in OT to UAB, at UAB.

I chalk it up to CUSA 3.0 still being too new. We don't look out for each other the way CUSA 1.0 and CUSA 2.0 did. We don't genuinely respect each other yet. I'm hoping that this changes in time....but unfortunately, we're all still jockeying for position in a 14-team conference that was thrown together 3 years ago. I hate to say it.....but this conference has GOT to start looking out for one another.

The Selection Committee doesn't keep deserving teams out because of their location. Maybe bubble teams get punished by this, but a highly deserving team is rarely left out of the tournament.

Complaining about what? That they lost a tournament game? That we have a conference tournament? The game was also in Birmingham, not at UAB. And, I think a lot of people forget the hell we received after knocking you guys out. MTSU and UAB were ripped apart and told how undeserving either of us would be, and what an embarrassment it would be when we played in the tournament. Your particular fan base was one of the worst offenders on here.(not saying you in particular)

Who looked out for what in CUSA 2.0? Half the league wanted out from day 1, and the conference tournament had a permanent location in Memphis.

If you want to look out for the conference, fix these things:

SOS of 186
RPI of 56 with a win total in the mid 20s
Losses to UAB, UNT, and ULaLa
2 top 100 wins
7 top 150 wins
4 OOC opponents over 300 in the RPI

You guys like to point fingers at everybody else, but how about looking in the mirror first. You keep missing the tournament because you keep having minimal top 100 numbers. You think that's a coincidence?

No, I think it's a "bias", and I've already told you that. For the record, the RPI and SOS also have bias' built in 'em too.

"Complaining" about CUSA only receiving 1 bid while some other conferences get a ridiculous number of bids is the only way it's going to change. Until people like you grow a pair and complain with the rest of us about it, they are going to continue to ignore CUSA and give more bids to unworthy eastern teams and P5's that are less deserving.

And LA Tech's CUSA tournament OT loss was played at UAB. Let's quit kidding ourselves. You can stop the politically correct "not UAB, but Birmingham" nonsense...you sound silly when you say it. For all intents and purposes, that was a home game for UAB, in front of their home crowd.

Get more top 100 teams on your schedule then. I don't care where you have to play them, I don't care how many refuse to play you, figure it out. Winning top 100 and 50 games is how you get at large bids. It's a very simple thing that tends to hold very true year in and year out. And what am I supposed to complain about? La tech won the regular season and screwed the pooch in the tournament again? You guys were an at large worthy team in my opinion, but didn't deserve a bid based off of their resume. No legitimate look at that resume indicates that is an at large team.

It was played in Birmingham. That's like me saying moving into a house 3 doors down is pretty much the same thing as living in your house. I mean it's pretty much the same thing, right? You do realize our team didn't play a game in that Arena all year either, right? The crowd was obviously pro UAB, I was never debating that.

(08-02-2015 12:49 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 08:01 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 04:33 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 08:15 AM)monarchoptimist Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 12:16 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Thanks for the compliment. Tech has won back to back CUSA season champs, won the conference by 2 games (15-3), 83-24 record over the last three years, and has a 29 home game winning streak. Plus Tech has actually beat good teams on the road- Oklahoma,Florida State,Georgia, Texas A&M.
Tech has accomplished all that without even trying!!!

BTW Tech's non conference SOS, overall season SOS, overall Power rating, predictive power rating was higher than ODU.

On top of that Tech was 38th in SOS impact, every CUSA team benefited from playing Tech.

You would probably compare football scores to basketball scores to prove that basketball doesn't have home court advantage like another ODU fan.


https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basket...s-by-other

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basket...s-by-other

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basket...ng-by-team

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basket...ng-by-team

First, those stats you quote are either inaccurate or meaningless. But lets be clear, La Tech's non-conference SOS was about 200 spots worse than ODU's based on RPI which is what the selection committee uses. That's not an opinion or up for debate. It's a fact.
Secondly, I thought LA Tech last season, like USM the year before, was an at-large caliber team. LA Tech won the conference outright and had a good win/loss record out of conference. Great coach, fantastic team and momentum from a few years of success in a row. But let's cut to the chase: LA Tech didn't make the NCAA tournament in the last three years.

So, honest question: what is the reason LA Tech was left out of the tournament last year if everything was so successful? They weren't even the top at-large candidate from CUSA despite everything you listed. How do you account for that?

Politics. There's a serious "eastern bias" in NCAA mens basketball. It's been proven a thousand times.

But I agree, LA Tech should have been dancing in 2015, and when they weren't the WHOLE conference should have been complaining. But they didn't. At least I didn't hear any CUSA fans directing animosity towards the NCAA or the committee. To the contrary, most of the hatred was directed at LA Tech for not getting in. Everybody --including me-- was quick to congratulate UAB for dancing, but nobody seemed to give a crap that the CUSA regular season champion stayed home after losing in OT to UAB, at UAB.

I chalk it up to CUSA 3.0 still being too new. We don't look out for each other the way CUSA 1.0 and CUSA 2.0 did. We don't genuinely respect each other yet. I'm hoping that this changes in time....but unfortunately, we're all still jockeying for position in a 14-team conference that was thrown together 3 years ago. I hate to say it.....but this conference has GOT to start looking out for one another.

The Selection Committee doesn't keep deserving teams out because of their location. Maybe bubble teams get punished by this, but a highly deserving team is rarely left out of the tournament.

Complaining about what? That they lost a tournament game? That we have a conference tournament? The game was also in Birmingham, not at UAB. And, I think a lot of people forget the hell we received after knocking you guys out. MTSU and UAB were ripped apart and told how undeserving either of us would be, and what an embarrassment it would be when we played in the tournament. Your particular fan base was one of the worst offenders on here.(not saying you in particular)

Who looked out for what in CUSA 2.0? Half the league wanted out from day 1, and the conference tournament had a permanent location in Memphis.

If you want to look out for the conference, fix these things:

SOS of 186
RPI of 56 with a win total in the mid 20s
Losses to UAB, UNT, and ULaLa
2 top 100 wins
7 top 150 wins
4 OOC opponents over 300 in the RPI

You guys like to point fingers at everybody else, but how about looking in the mirror first. You keep missing the tournament because you keep having minimal top 100 numbers. You think that's a coincidence?

No, I think it's a "bias", and I've already told you that. For the record, the RPI and SOS also have bias' built in 'em too.

"Complaining" about CUSA only receiving 1 bid while some other conferences get a ridiculous number of bids is the only way it's going to change. Until people like you grow a pair and complain with the rest of us about it, they are going to continue to ignore CUSA and give more bids to unworthy eastern teams and P5's that are less deserving.

And LA Tech's CUSA tournament OT loss was played at UAB. Let's quit kidding ourselves. You can stop the politically correct "not UAB, but Birmingham" nonsense...you sound silly when you say it. For all intents and purposes, that was a home game for UAB, in front of their home crowd.

We heard the same nonsense from VCU when the CAA tournament was played in Richmond, (though in that case, it was every year). OK, it technically wasn't "at VCU", but the home crowd still smelled just as bad.

(08-02-2015 09:25 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  We heard the same nonsense from VCU when the CAA tournament was played in Richmond, (though in that case, it was every year). OK, it technically wasn't "at VCU", but the home crowd still smelled just as bad.

Whoa, let's not lose perspective ODUBB35. Comparing CUSA to CAA with regard to how the tournament is run is wrong. Equating UAB to VCU is downright slander:

** The tournament locale is not a Tom Yeager fix. Birmingham (like El Paso before it) has stepped up to the costs/responsibilities of hosting the tournament. By having a home city/state willing and able to do what others are not, UAB thus gets the benefit of a "home" tournament. My hope is that next year either Norfolk or Charlotte will be able to put together a winning bid. If it turns out the be Norfolk, I for one will not be apologizing for it.

** I did not make it down to last year's tournament. I hope I can make it this coming year. But from what I read on these boards, and from what I heard from others who did make it, UAB and the City of Birmingham were terrific hosts. It is defamatory to suggest that they are anything like the subhuman scum that roots for VCU or that the Birmingham arena can possibly be as bad as the cesspool that was the Richmond Coliseum.

The main concern being addressed in this thread (at least as I see it) is not the advantage to the school that gets to host the tournament. That is a given, and it is earned (or at least paid for).

The more important concern of this thread is that there is little-to-no chance that the schools that fail to win the tournament will get an at-large bid. That is not a tournament-hosting problem. That is a scheduling/perception problem for the conference as a whole.

That problem can be fixed. But it will require more than merely "complaining" about it to the NCAA.

(08-02-2015 10:14 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 09:25 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  We heard the same nonsense from VCU when the CAA tournament was played in Richmond, (though in that case, it was every year). OK, it technically wasn't "at VCU", but the home crowd still smelled just as bad.

Whoa, let's not lose perspective ODUBB35. Comparing CUSA to CAA with regard to how the tournament is run is wrong. Equating UAB to VCU is downright slander:

** The tournament locale is not a Tom Yeager fix. Birmingham (like El Paso before it) has stepped up to the costs/responsibilities of hosting the tournament. By having a home city/state willing and able to do what others are not, UAB thus gets the benefit of a "home" tournament. My hope is that next year either Norfolk or Charlotte will be able to put together a winning bid. If it turns out the be Norfolk, I for one will not be apologizing for it.

** I did not make it down to last year's tournament. I hope I can make it this coming year. But from what I read on these boards, and from what I heard from others who did make it, UAB and the City of Birmingham were terrific hosts. It is defamatory to suggest that they are anything like the subhuman scum that roots for VCU or that the Birmingham arena can possibly be as bad as the cesspool that was the Richmond Coliseum.

The main concern being addressed in this thread (at least as I see it) is not the advantage to the school that gets to host the tournament. That is a given, and it is earned (or at least paid for).

The more important concern of this thread is that there is little-to-no chance that the schools that fail to win the tournament will get an at-large bid. That is not a tournament-hosting problem. That is a scheduling/perception problem for the conference as a whole.

That problem can be fixed. But it will require more than merely "complaining" about it to the NCAA.

True. My only point is that there is a home city advantage, and look firward to having Norfolk host it soon.

Sorry Tech fans but we have been in this league a long damn time and took many trips to Memphis, Cincinnati, Louisville, Tulsa, etc and you wont see any of us apologize for hosting or winning the thing. How about improving your OOC schedule and win more games?

STOP YOUR WHINING...............

BTW the last time we hosted in Birmingham before this past year we lost in the second round.

BTW non-CUS posters GTFO

I would like to see Norfolk get it. I have no issues with Shreveport. I would like to se Nashville. I do know one thing, if another city gets it and UAB doesn't win you wont see one UAB fan cry and whine like I have seen here.