Dick Weiss has over half a century in sports reporting. He worked as the premier sports columnist at the New York Daily News for over 20 years. He has direct connections to Fox Sports. Like really direct.

He was all over the Big East catholic schools leaving en masse. He knew they were going to Fox Sports.

Now this:
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Dick Weiss is a writer/columnist who has covered college hoops scene for philly, ny daily news. He is a member of the college basketball writers' Hall of Fame.

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Fox sports mulling idea of Kansas OU leaving big 12 for Big to give that conference 16 teams. Just another rumor? @BlueStarMedia1

Fox with its BTN half ownership would benefit with OU and KU in the big 10, ditto espn if they get a big 10 deal. The key is what would texas do? If they are willing to stay in a big 12 for the duration of the contract, is fox/espn hurt with the big 12 losing ou and kU?

I could see it happen if the B1G agrees to give some rights to ESPN.

It is one of those Network agreements to allow much a move to happen...in pro sports it would be a "trade."

Oh, I forgot to add. Dick Weiss also is big shot at the Big Ten Network...

In as much we can speculate on the veracity of what Dick Weiss wrote, I'm also wondering what the motive for writing it is at this point?

It seems an incredibly incendiary thing to do. A huge shot across the bow of Texas and ESPN.

It’s not in Texas best interest to separate from OU or have OU and KU leaving the B12.

This will force TEXAS to leave the B12 too.

They don’t want to join SEC. The ACC is not much better.

Texas don’t have many good option that is good for Texas if OU and KU gone.

They need to talk to OU and promise them something better in the near future.

(07-27-2015 11:02 AM)bluesox Wrote:  Fox with its BTN half ownership would benefit with OU and KU in the big 10, ditto espn if they get a big 10 deal. The key is what would texas do? If they are willing to stay in a big 12 for the duration of the contract, is fox/espn hurt with the big 12 losing ou and kU?

ACC merger. Which would mean ACC schools heading to B1G.

Texas isn't going to join the Pac 12 without other members.

(07-27-2015 11:25 AM)BE4evah Wrote:  Oh, I forgot to add. Dick Weiss also is big shot at the Big Ten Network...

In as much we can speculate on the veracity of what Dick Weiss wrote, I'm also wondering what the motive for writing it is at this point?

It seems an incredibly incendiary thing to do. A huge shot across the bow of Texas and ESPN.

Pre B1G TV negotiations leak? Would make sense to me.

The writer from Nebraska is well known and has a lot of connections in the Big 12 community and there is no doubt he could have been asked to go to the Big 12 media days to gather Intel and send it to the administration offices at the B1G and BTN.

I know there were people asking why he was there.

(07-27-2015 11:26 AM)SO#1 Wrote:  This will force TEXAS to leave the B12 too.

The loss of OU definitely hurts Big 12 football; the loss of KU definitely hurts Big 12 basketball. And, I could see Texas explore a relationship with the ACC.

But, does it really force Texas to leave?

What if Texas gets a long-term deal with OU for the annual OOC Red River Rivalry and the Big 12 cuts back the number of conference games to 8? Why is Texas forced to leave the Big 12?

The Big 12 could backfill with Cincinnati, UCF, BYU and Houston - get a CCG and actually place Texas in a better spot than the status quo - similar schedule, broader media reach for the conference, and easier path to the Big 12 championship.

This is off-season click bait. There's nothing to see here.

(07-27-2015 11:47 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  This is off-season click bait. There's nothing to see here.

Except there is no article to click on. Is he fishing for Twitter followers?

(07-27-2015 11:57 AM)Psuhockey Wrote:  

(07-27-2015 11:47 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  This is off-season click bait. There's nothing to see here.

Except there is no article to click on. Is he fishing for Twitter followers?

Why would he be sending out click bait?

He has 12k followers. Long-time established writer in the sports industry.

Ian Fitzsimmons @Ianfitzespn
Tubs told us he has heard if the Big 12 doesn't expand as David Boren said it should it could be absorbed into the other Power 5 conferences
10:05 AM - 29 Jun 2015

My first thoughts.

1. Mention of Fox is very interesting. Fox owns part of the Big XII package, partners with BTN, and would like to get the whole banana.
2. Fox historically when they want to make a splash has done so with loss leader cash investments. They ended up making money of the first NFL contract but at the time it was widely expected they would lose money on a direct accounting but it would be profitable by creating brand awareness and getting viewers in the habit of watching Fox.

If this is serious, Fox could well be planning to throw a number at the Big 10 that ESPN cannot or will not choose to match. Fox can't promise to bring Texas to the table but can offer Texas the horrible options of 1. Rebuild Big XII yet again. 2. Go hat in hand to SEC 3. Try to work a deal with ACC 4. Face joining the Pac-12 with game tipping off at 10pm Austin time, 5. Join the Big 10.

With Fox holding part of the Big XII rights, roughly half of the OU/KU (and presumably UT) games would be covered under Fox's Big XII package so Fox can promise Big 10 a massive dollar amount and escalate proportionally when they are out from under the GOR if OU and Kansas aren't successful in challenging the forfeiture of their share of league money, but still providing enough for Big Ten members to get a big raise and pay some over to Kansas and OU. Maryland was worth $30 million upfront payment from Big Ten.

It wouldn't Surprise Me in the least that at the first hint of Big 12 collapse with OU and Kansas leaving for B!G, The ACC would send out invites to Texas, Baylor, TCU, WVU. If Texas said No or went elsewhere, the ACC would probably invite WVU and grab Cincinnati to cut off Big 12 expansion replacement. that would give the ACC 16 plus Notre Dame and a very strong conference in Football and Basketball.

Dick Weiss doesn't need "click bait". First, he's not pimping a blog. Second, if you're familiar with northeast media, Dick Weiss is one of the most respected guys out there. There's no questioning his reputation and credentials as a serious journalist.

He has deep connections to Fox Sports. We're talking at the highest level of Fox in general, and Fox Sports in particular. It's one thing to say his opinion is wrong, or his facts are wrong, but to attack him is not fair.

(07-27-2015 11:42 AM)YNot Wrote:  

(07-27-2015 11:26 AM)SO#1 Wrote:  This will force TEXAS to leave the B12 too.

The loss of OU definitely hurts Big 12 football; the loss of KU definitely hurts Big 12 basketball. And, I could see Texas explore a relationship with the ACC.

But, does it really force Texas to leave?

What if Texas gets a long-term deal with OU for the annual OOC Red River Rivalry and the Big 12 cuts back the number of conference games to 8? Why is Texas forced to leave the Big 12?

The Big 12 could backfill with Cincinnati, UCF, BYU and Houston - get a CCG and actually place Texas in a better spot than the status quo - similar schedule, broader media reach for the conference, and easier path to the Big 12 championship.

So in that scenario, Texas has 3 choices.
1. Expand by 2 now and keep KU and OU in the Big 12.
2. OU/KU leave. Texas and the Big 12 still have to add 2 members to get back to 10 (best case scenario).
3. OU/KU leave and others schools start find places to land. Texas other than going Indy or staying in a very watered down Big 12, go to the PAC 12 with TTech.

Seems that if Texas doesn't want to go to the PAC, then better get the expansion done right now.

(07-27-2015 11:42 AM)YNot Wrote:  What if Texas gets a long-term deal with OU for the annual OOC Red River Rivalry and the Big 12 cuts back the number of conference games to 8? Why is Texas forced to leave the Big 12?

That's one issue in going to 12 ... an eight game conference schedule is playing five schools every year across a four year schedule and playing the other six two years on and two year off.

But its 9 games in the Big Ten, so if OkU plays Texas every year OOC, what about Bedlam?

When Texas gives the ok to blow things up, well, things are going to get blown up.

Always had a gut feeling the B1G TV negotiations were going to blow things up somehow since the GOR is not something a school or conference would attach head on, but if you can destroy a conference so the GOR's breach doesn't get activated and the networks sign off on the moves, then all is good.

Brian Davis ‏@BDavisAAS 40m40 minutes ago
Brian Davis retweeted Greg Welch
All new leadership at Texas now. And the Big 12's breakup is a matter of when, not if, sad to say.
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(07-27-2015 02:39 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  When Texas gives the ok to blow things up, well, things are going to get blown up.

Always had a gut feeling the B1G TV negotiations were going to blow things up somehow since the GOR is not something a school or conference would attach head on, but if you can destroy a conference so the GOR's breach doesn't get activated and the networks sign off on the moves, then all is good.

Brian Davis ‏@BDavisAAS 40m40 minutes ago
Brian Davis retweeted Greg Welch
All new leadership at Texas now. And the Big 12's breakup is a matter of when, not if, sad to say.
Brian Davis added,

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Austin, Texas
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WoW ! is that breaking now ?

(07-27-2015 02:39 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  When Texas gives the ok to blow things up, well, things are going to get blown up.

Always had a gut feeling the B1G TV negotiations were going to blow things up somehow since the GOR is not something a school or conference would attach head on, but if you can destroy a conference so the GOR's breach doesn't get activated and the networks sign off on the moves, then all is good.

Brian Davis ‏@BDavisAAS 40m40 minutes ago
Brian Davis retweeted Greg Welch
All new leadership at Texas now. And the Big 12's breakup is a matter of when, not if, sad to say.
Brian Davis added,

Brian DavisVerified account
@BDavisAAS
Covers University of Texas football, men's basketball and other things for the Austin American-Statesman.

Austin, Texas
Joined March 2009

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