(07-26-2015 07:36 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-26-2015 06:52 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(07-26-2015 05:40 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  The truth is nobody gives a hoot about what Allen West thinks.

I certainly do AND every time he pops up on stage somewhere it makes me miss Colin Powell and even Michael Steele.

Why am I not surprised you miss those 2 RINO's?

They know how to talk to people who don't think like them. Eventually a leader's going to have to do that.

(07-26-2015 08:49 PM)Hitch Wrote:  Why does he say he's not highly educated? He has two masters degrees.

I have to agree with him. He did graduate from utk

Lol

(07-26-2015 10:53 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(07-25-2015 04:38 PM)tigertom Wrote:  While you are debating whether Lt.Col.West is good for blacks in the GOP... this video has now been seen by 27,000,000+ views.

I would say that if the younger blacks don't like it, they need to get a bit more education and develop a caring attitude about how they can help themselves and the nation. The smart ones are.

It's growing still. He's hit a nerve and everything has said is TRUE.

Thank God for men like Allen West. Distinguished military leader.

Views don't mean anything for whether he's good for cultivating black republicans. PSY's Gagnam style has over a billion and it doesn't mean that he's good for the future of music.

Views just mean that the people who are already inclined to like what he said got it shared through message boards, facebook, twitter, etc. They are often said in front of virtually NO black people.

He does what most of your black republicans--and democrats, hell even white republicans and democrats--do: elicit an emotional response from the sizable "He showed him" crowd.

Look at the first few words of the titles of "articles" from his website: "The Dirty Little Secret...", "Video BOMBSHELL...", "Watch Ted Cruz rip Mitch McConnell a new one", "WHOA", "Here are the disturbing facts...". It's political tabloid speak with title resolutions that UPWORTHY pioneered to manufacture clicks. Like the James Patterson of the political world, he can get a lot of readers without a lot of substance.

I'll tell you two things it would be hard to find him talking about: real economic development in areas that have a hard time building AND--the most elusive message in politics--how voting republican can actually help black people more than voting democrat will.

No he doesn't talk about those issues, because those points require a nuance that restrict him from using his most effective tool; eliciting an emotional response.

(07-26-2015 10:59 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  They know how to talk to people who don't think like them. Eventually a leader's going to have to do that.

A telling indictment of all of the current leaders of both major political parties.

Apparently if you yell in your speech that makes your words more important. That's what I learned from the video.

(07-27-2015 10:05 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  Apparently if you yell in your speech that makes your words more important. That's what I learned from the video.

Yelling in this particular video is one thing. He does it everywhere though. Honestly, look at his blog and count the titles that feature words in all caps.

I wonder if it's a calculated move or if he just doesn't notice it.

(07-27-2015 07:44 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(07-26-2015 10:53 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(07-25-2015 04:38 PM)tigertom Wrote:  While you are debating whether Lt.Col.West is good for blacks in the GOP... this video has now been seen by 27,000,000+ views.

I would say that if the younger blacks don't like it, they need to get a bit more education and develop a caring attitude about how they can help themselves and the nation. The smart ones are.

It's growing still. He's hit a nerve and everything has said is TRUE.

Thank God for men like Allen West. Distinguished military leader.

Views don't mean anything for whether he's good for cultivating black republicans. PSY's Gagnam style has over a billion and it doesn't mean that he's good for the future of music.

Views just mean that the people who are already inclined to like what he said got it shared through message boards, facebook, twitter, etc. They are often said in front of virtually NO black people.

He does what most of your black republicans--and democrats, hell even white republicans and democrats--do: elicit an emotional response from the sizable "He showed him" crowd.

Look at the first few words of the titles of "articles" from his website: "The Dirty Little Secret...", "Video BOMBSHELL...", "Watch Ted Cruz rip Mitch McConnell a new one", "WHOA", "Here are the disturbing facts...". It's political tabloid speak with title resolutions that UPWORTHY pioneered to manufacture clicks. Like the James Patterson of the political world, he can get a lot of readers without a lot of substance.

I'll tell you two things it would be hard to find him talking about: real economic development in areas that have a hard time building AND--the most elusive message in politics--how voting republican can actually help black people more than voting democrat will.

No he doesn't talk about those issues, because those points require a nuance that restrict him from using his most effective tool; eliciting an emotional response.

Would you consider that good or bad?

http://allenbwest.com/2015/07/what-iran-...-possible/

(07-26-2015 05:40 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  The truth is nobody gives a hoot about what Allen West thinks.

No. That is not the truth.

(07-26-2015 05:40 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  The truth is nobody gives a hoot about what Allen West thinks.

The truth is I don't give a hoot what Allen West thinks.

FIFY

(07-27-2015 10:05 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  Apparently if you yell in your speech that makes your words more important. That's what I learned from the video.

Yes...Well prepared, teleprompted speeches contain more important stuff.

(07-27-2015 11:07 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(07-27-2015 07:44 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  No he doesn't talk about those issues, because those points require a nuance that restrict him from using his most effective tool; eliciting an emotional response.

Would you consider that good or bad?

It's terrible IMO but it is what it is. What West does energizes the base getting into the weeds about the pros and cons between a consumption based or income based tax system put people to sleep. One thing I give the DNC credit for is distilling economic issues down to consumable soundbites that reinforce the proletariat versus bourgeois mindset.

(07-28-2015 06:00 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(07-27-2015 10:05 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  Apparently if you yell in your speech that makes your words more important. That's what I learned from the video.

Yes...Well prepared, teleprompted speeches contain more important stuff.

If he thinks yelling at someone he's negotiating with, like he yells everything else, is going to be effective, I'm pretty sure he'll fail dismally. But the yelling does appeal to the emotions of people who are ready to fall in line.

(07-28-2015 06:51 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(07-27-2015 11:07 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(07-27-2015 07:44 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  No he doesn't talk about those issues, because those points require a nuance that restrict him from using his most effective tool; eliciting an emotional response.

Would you consider that good or bad?

It's terrible IMO but it is what it is. What West does energizes the base getting into the weeds about the pros and cons between a consumption based or income based tax system put people to sleep. One thing I give the DNC credit for is distilling economic issues down to consumable soundbites that reinforce the proletariat versus bourgeois mindset.

They dumb down the rhetoric to meet the audience. All this bunch cares about is redistributing income. It is all about is "what is in this for me."

(07-28-2015 11:41 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(07-28-2015 06:51 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(07-27-2015 11:07 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(07-27-2015 07:44 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  No he doesn't talk about those issues, because those points require a nuance that restrict him from using his most effective tool; eliciting an emotional response.

Would you consider that good or bad?

It's terrible IMO but it is what it is. What West does energizes the base getting into the weeds about the pros and cons between a consumption based or income based tax system put people to sleep. One thing I give the DNC credit for is distilling economic issues down to consumable soundbites that reinforce the proletariat versus bourgeois mindset.

They dumb down the rhetoric to meet the audience. All this bunch cares about is redistributing income. It is all about is "what is in this for me."

But it works...