(07-23-2015 03:30 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Republican leadership is comprised of a bunch of dull, dumb, old, white guys with bad strategeries.

They've helped nominate the likes of John McCain and Mitt Romney the past two presidential elections. I'm not sure there were two worse candidates than them. I mean.....John McCain (predictably) lost to Obama, then someone who couldn't even beat McCain was nominated.

Hurrrrrrrrrrrrr durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

yepper.....the rnc is a joke....just like the other idiots over at the dnc....

Banning Trump from the debates is actually the best move for Trump and for the other GOP candidates, too. Keeps him in the news as the "outsider" that the "establishment" is afraid to deal with, plus it spares the regular Jeb Bush-types the embarrassment of having to share a stage with him.

Well I'm glad to see that others believe that the republicans are as stupid as I do.

(07-23-2015 10:59 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Well I'm glad to see that others believe that the republicans are as stupid as I do.

you should be worried about trump.....

(07-23-2015 10:19 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Banning Trump from the debates is actually the best move for Trump and for the other GOP candidates, too. Keeps him in the news as the "outsider" that the "establishment" is afraid to deal with, plus it spares the regular Jeb Bush-types the embarrassment of having to share a stage with him.

I wouldn't put it past his ego to run as a third party candidate....however, and he should know this....he will then become another fad ('course, I think that's part of the master plan anyway)

the dems are loving this bs.....

once again, the rnc doesn't have a clue.....

(07-23-2015 10:19 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Banning Trump from the debates is actually the best move for Trump and for the other GOP candidates, too. Keeps him in the news as the "outsider" that the "establishment" is afraid to deal with, plus it spares the regular Jeb Bush-types the embarrassment of having to share a stage with him.

Disagree... Trump is liberal on guns and healthcare. He has flip flopped on other issues like abortion and traditional marriage. That is the ironic thing. He will get eviscerated in the debate, assuming the moderator is willing to play ball with the establishment (this is likely), due to his liberal positions on many issues. He has a lot of explaining to do. If they refuse to debate him, he will get stronger. If they do debate him, it is an opportunity to knock him down. The moderator takes immigration off the table and makes it about social issues and foreign policy and Bush and Rubio will come out looking better than him.

(07-24-2015 07:20 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 10:19 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Banning Trump from the debates is actually the best move for Trump and for the other GOP candidates, too. Keeps him in the news as the "outsider" that the "establishment" is afraid to deal with, plus it spares the regular Jeb Bush-types the embarrassment of having to share a stage with him.

Disagree... Trump is liberal on guns and healthcare. He has flip flopped on other issues like abortion and traditional marriage. That is the ironic thing. He will get eviscerated in the debate, assuming the moderator is willing to play ball with the establishment (this is likely), due to his liberal positions on many issues. He has a lot of explaining to do. If they refuse to debate him, he will get stronger. If they do debate him, it is an opportunity to knock him down. The moderator takes immigration off the table and makes it about social issues and foreign policy and Bush and Rubio will come out looking better than him.

There will be 9 other candidates on the stage with Trump. The debate will last 120 minutes. If it is run properly, Trump will get 12 minutes.

I don't see a problem.

(07-24-2015 07:20 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 10:19 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Banning Trump from the debates is actually the best move for Trump and for the other GOP candidates, too. Keeps him in the news as the "outsider" that the "establishment" is afraid to deal with, plus it spares the regular Jeb Bush-types the embarrassment of having to share a stage with him.

Disagree... Trump is liberal on guns and healthcare. He has flip flopped on other issues like abortion and traditional marriage. That is the ironic thing. He will get eviscerated in the debate, assuming the moderator is willing to play ball with the establishment (this is likely), due to his liberal positions on many issues. He has a lot of explaining to do. If they refuse to debate him, he will get stronger. If they do debate him, it is an opportunity to knock him down. The moderator takes immigration off the table and makes it about social issues and foreign policy and Bush and Rubio will come out looking better than him.

do not discount the atheists that are not like me (still in the closet)

I have yet to see a candidate with a social/fiscal position that I am willing to acknowledge as relevant...

once you toss god out of the equation, it become much easier to sift through the bs.....

y'all better start paying attention to why this working....

never mind.....the rnc better start.....

never mind



edit: it's the purest of simple stinkfist logic....if the dnc doesn't do the god thingy, and the rnc gave up the god thingy....then what would be left as an option? oh shite....things that matter relative to running a country effectively? call me crazy....i'm just one guy....

(07-23-2015 10:59 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Well I'm glad to see that others believe that the republicans are as stupid as I am.

FIFY

(07-24-2015 07:00 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 10:59 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Well I'm glad to see that others believe that the republicans are as stupid as I do.

you should be worried about trump.....

No you should be worried. He's overshadowing republicans like Kaischic who actually have a chance to appeal to moderates like me.

ITT: People who had no problem with Ron Paul's treatment at the RNC, or Gary Johnson's treatment at the debates, or in fact Ron Paul's treatment at the debates .... suddenly find righteous indignity when the same is done to Trump.

(07-23-2015 03:30 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Republican leadership is comprised of a bunch of dull, dumb, old, white guys with bad strategeries.

They've helped nominate the likes of John McCain and Mitt Romney the past two presidential elections. I'm not sure there were two worse candidates than them. I mean.....John McCain (predictably) lost to Obama, then someone who couldn't even beat McCain was nominated.

Hurrrrrrrrrrrrr durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

To be fair, the Democrats ran Gore and Kerry...

(07-24-2015 01:17 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  ITT: People who had no problem with Ron Paul's treatment at the RNC, or Gary Johnson's treatment at the debates, or in fact Ron Paul's treatment at the debates .... suddenly find righteous indignity when the same is done to Trump.

I personally hated how RP was excluded from debates, but there is a difference here in that Trump has a lead in the polls and Paul never got any kind of traction in scientific polls (that I can remember).

(07-24-2015 01:17 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  ITT: People who had no problem with Ron Paul's treatment at the RNC, or Gary Johnson's treatment at the debates, or in fact Ron Paul's treatment at the debates .... suddenly find righteous indignity when the same is done to Trump.

No schit.

They're pretty weak if they pass up a chance to debate Trump. Not that debates are very good for determining who to vote for.

(07-24-2015 01:57 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(07-24-2015 01:17 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  ITT: People who had no problem with Ron Paul's treatment at the RNC, or Gary Johnson's treatment at the debates, or in fact Ron Paul's treatment at the debates .... suddenly find righteous indignity when the same is done to Trump.

I personally hated how RP was excluded from debates, but there is a difference here in that Trump has a lead in the polls and Paul never got any kind of traction in scientific polls (that I can remember).

Ron Paul wasn't excluded. They just ignored him on questions he would have drilled down their throat (spending, taxes, healthcare, etc) and only only ever gave him divisive questions (foreign policy, drug policy).

And Ron Paul was #1 in the polls in Iowa for a bit and only just missed winning Iowa. He won several other caucus states and territories.

(07-24-2015 01:17 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  ITT: People who had no problem with Ron Paul's treatment at the RNC, or Gary Johnson's treatment at the debates, or in fact Ron Paul's treatment at the debates .... suddenly find righteous indignity when the same is done to Trump.

This.

This is what makes politics fun. If he gets in they will ask him questions and he will throw bombs, often with nothing at all to do with what he is asked. He will interrupt other people, throw a bomb and ignore any attempts to reign him in. He doesn't care what the rules are and will do as he pleases and no one will know how to deal with it. It will be very entertaining.

(07-24-2015 01:54 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 03:30 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Republican leadership is comprised of a bunch of dull, dumb, old, white guys with bad strategeries.

They've helped nominate the likes of John McCain and Mitt Romney the past two presidential elections. I'm not sure there were two worse candidates than them. I mean.....John McCain (predictably) lost to Obama, then someone who couldn't even beat McCain was nominated.

Hurrrrrrrrrrrrr durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

To be fair, the Democrats ran Gore and Kerry...

Then they figured the game out. Republicans are way behind.

(07-27-2015 12:34 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  This is what makes politics fun. If he gets in they will ask him questions and he will throw bombs, often with nothing at all to do with what he is asked. He will interrupt other people, throw a bomb and ignore any attempts to reign him in. He doesn't care what the rules are and will do as he pleases and no one will know how to deal with it. It will be very entertaining.

Agree. His ego is so big that he thinks only his opinion matters. He does have good ideas, nonetheless.