On the other hand, taxes are mentioned once, in this context:

Quote:The right of property in slaves was recognized by giving to free persons distinct political rights, by giving them the right to represent, and burthening them with direct taxes for three-fifths of their slaves; by authorizing the importation of slaves for twenty years; and by stipulating for the rendition of fugitives from labor.

And in almost every case that rights are mentioned, it's in the context of encroaching the right to hold slaves. Why is it that taxes and tariffs are a commonly cited reason for the the south's succession?

Now, I'm not a Civil War buff and am trying to educate myself on the subject. Can someone please explain to me how slavery wasn't the root cause of the Civil War? As far as I can tell, the Confederacy existed because of slavery. The north went to war to keep the nation together, but the nation split in the first place because the south wanted to keep their slaves.

Ok.

(07-22-2015 11:44 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Ok.

Why did you even bother replying?

Slavery is evil and they don't want to admit that their ancestors were evil.

Post Slavery had it's day too out West !

(07-22-2015 11:41 AM)dmacfour Wrote:  On the other hand, taxes are mentioned once, in this context:

Quote:The right of property in slaves was recognized by giving to free persons distinct political rights, by giving them the right to represent, and burthening them with direct taxes for three-fifths of their slaves; by authorizing the importation of slaves for twenty years; and by stipulating for the rendition of fugitives from labor.

And in almost every case that rights are mentioned, it's in the context of encroaching the right to hold slaves. Why is it that taxes and tariffs are a commonly cited reason for the the south's succession?

Now, I'm not a Civil War buff and am trying to educate myself on the subject. Can someone please explain to me how slavery wasn't the root cause of the Civil War? As far as I can tell, the Confederacy existed because of slavery. The north went to war to keep the nation together, but the nation split in the first place because the south wanted to keep their slaves.

The flag was taken down days ago. You can move on to another alleged grievance against the white man.

(07-22-2015 12:42 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 11:41 AM)dmacfour Wrote:  On the other hand, taxes are mentioned once, in this context:

Quote:The right of property in slaves was recognized by giving to free persons distinct political rights, by giving them the right to represent, and burthening them with direct taxes for three-fifths of their slaves; by authorizing the importation of slaves for twenty years; and by stipulating for the rendition of fugitives from labor.

And in almost every case that rights are mentioned, it's in the context of encroaching the right to hold slaves. Why is it that taxes and tariffs are a commonly cited reason for the the south's succession?

Now, I'm not a Civil War buff and am trying to educate myself on the subject. Can someone please explain to me how slavery wasn't the root cause of the Civil War? As far as I can tell, the Confederacy existed because of slavery. The north went to war to keep the nation together, but the nation split in the first place because the south wanted to keep their slaves.

The flag was taken down days ago. You can move on to another alleged grievance against the white man.

That's not an answer.

I asked a question unrelated to the confederate battle flag.

(07-22-2015 12:45 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 12:42 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 11:41 AM)dmacfour Wrote:  On the other hand, taxes are mentioned once, in this context:

Quote:The right of property in slaves was recognized by giving to free persons distinct political rights, by giving them the right to represent, and burthening them with direct taxes for three-fifths of their slaves; by authorizing the importation of slaves for twenty years; and by stipulating for the rendition of fugitives from labor.

And in almost every case that rights are mentioned, it's in the context of encroaching the right to hold slaves. Why is it that taxes and tariffs are a commonly cited reason for the the south's succession?

Now, I'm not a Civil War buff and am trying to educate myself on the subject. Can someone please explain to me how slavery wasn't the root cause of the Civil War? As far as I can tell, the Confederacy existed because of slavery. The north went to war to keep the nation together, but the nation split in the first place because the south wanted to keep their slaves.

The flag was taken down days ago. You can move on to another alleged grievance against the white man.

That's not an answer.

I asked a question unrelated to the confederate battle flag.

What you posted is the same steaming pile of monkey crap used as justification in demanding the CSA battle flag be taken down. My point above still stands.

(07-22-2015 12:47 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 12:45 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 12:42 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 11:41 AM)dmacfour Wrote:  On the other hand, taxes are mentioned once, in this context:

Quote:The right of property in slaves was recognized by giving to free persons distinct political rights, by giving them the right to represent, and burthening them with direct taxes for three-fifths of their slaves; by authorizing the importation of slaves for twenty years; and by stipulating for the rendition of fugitives from labor.

And in almost every case that rights are mentioned, it's in the context of encroaching the right to hold slaves. Why is it that taxes and tariffs are a commonly cited reason for the the south's succession?

Now, I'm not a Civil War buff and am trying to educate myself on the subject. Can someone please explain to me how slavery wasn't the root cause of the Civil War? As far as I can tell, the Confederacy existed because of slavery. The north went to war to keep the nation together, but the nation split in the first place because the south wanted to keep their slaves.

The flag was taken down days ago. You can move on to another alleged grievance against the white man.

That's not an answer.

I asked a question unrelated to the confederate battle flag.

What you posted is the same steaming pile of monkey crap used as justification in demanding the CSA battle flag be taken down. My point above still stands.

Steaming pile of monkey crap? Care to explain? And no, this has nothing to do with the CSA flag.

It came straight from Confederate documents. If you don't want to explain, stop being a douche and leave the thread.

(07-22-2015 12:52 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 01:01 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

It will keep coming back as long as the Confederate supporters have their heads in their ass about what the war was actually about.

Don't upset them with facts. Let them believe that the war wasn't about slavery.

(07-22-2015 01:05 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 01:01 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

It will keep coming back as long as the Confederate supporters have their heads in their ass about what the war was actually about.

You didn't even start the thread.

(07-22-2015 01:49 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 01:05 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 01:01 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

It will keep coming back as long as the Confederate supporters have their heads in their ass about what the war was actually about.

You didn't even start the thread.

Your point? It was just a simple state of fact.

(07-22-2015 01:55 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 01:49 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 01:05 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 01:01 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

It will keep coming back as long as the Confederate supporters have their heads in their ass about what the war was actually about.

You didn't even start the thread.

Your point? It was just a simple state of fact.

lol, crap, my bad. My original post wasn't supposed to be a response to you. It was supposed to be a stand alone reply. Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused. Carry on.

The word slavery is mentioned at least 80 times in the declarations of succession

Just for aesthetics, can you correct the thread title to use "secession"? Much different meaning...