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John Kasich Is Not Running to be President
Quote:Dan Balz at the Washington Post reports that John Kasich has hired John Weaver and Fred Davis to be his campaign consultants, strategists, pillagers of his bank account, and all around agents of a pseudo-Presidential campaign.

Kasich has, no doubt, looked in the mirror every day since he left Fox News calling himself “Mr. President.” But Kasich is not now running to be President. Surely, like the gorilla putting on a lion’s mane and calling himself Aslan, Kasich will put on the Brooks Brothers tie and call himself a presidential candidate, but that does not make him a White House contender.

One does not hire the Republican equivalent of Bob Shrum (see e.g. Presidents Gephardt, Dukaksis, Kerrey, Gore, and Kerry) — advisors to a host of “former Presidential candidates” including McCain and Huntsman — to be President. One hires them to knife other candidates in the back.

John Kasich does not want to be President. He wants to be the guy who scuttles the chances of other candidates. In 2012, Jon Huntsman set out destroying a host of candidates we now know from several books written. It was, for example, reportedly the Huntsman campaign that push the stories about Herman Cain as he continued to rise in the polls.

Kasich has a frosty relationship with Scott Walker. He is no fan of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% or Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) 86%. He is not a great ally to Rick Perry. It doesn’t take much to see Kasich as the guy trying to get on stage at a debate not to build himself up, but take out others, hoping to eventually be rewarded by the next President.

Put more bluntly, one does not run for President in the Republican Party by hiring consultants who hate the Republican base to run the campaign of a Republican who says publicly Jesus wants him to expand government. One runs that way to destroy others within the primary process.

http://www.redstate.com/2015/06/10/john-...president/
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(07-22-2015 08:17 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  John Kasich does not want to be President.

He's got my vote.
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The fact that this story was in the Washington Post, confirms for me that Kasich is the biggest fear that the Dems have.

Quote:one does not run for President in the Republican Party by hiring consultants who hate the Republican base...... One runs that way to destroy others within the primary process.

You run that way to win the general election. But first he has to destroy the competition. Seems like a very clever strategy.

Quote:Kasich has a frosty relationship with Scott Walker. He is no fan of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% or Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) 86%. He is not a great ally to Rick Perry

I couldn't agree more.
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(07-22-2015 09:11 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  The fact that this story was in the Washington Post, confirms for me that Kasich is the biggest fear that the Dems have.

I'd say that's a fair assessment. It's hilarious to me that guys like ER/Redstate will destroy their best candidates in favor of guys like Trump/Cruz with no chance of winning POTUS.
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My favorite pick. He doesn't dream to be President, He knows though the Country needs someone like Him to be the President. He is not a Glorified Superstar type, just a hard worker that understands tasks that need to be completed in a timely manner and can work well with others. He also could be a very strong VP if that's what it come to.
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So tell me about Kasich. Where is he on the political spectrum? Why does he not like Walker or Perry, if such is true? I'm not very familiar with his views. I'm not averse to voting for a Republican if his views are close enough to mine. All we have is Hillary on the Democratic side, Sanders being too far left.
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(07-22-2015 09:11 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  The fact that this story was in the Washington Post, confirms for me that Kasich is the biggest fear that the Dems have.

Quote:one does not run for President in the Republican Party by hiring consultants who hate the Republican base...... One runs that way to destroy others within the primary process.

You run that way to win the general election. But first he has to destroy the competition. Seems like a very clever strategy.

Quote:Kasich has a frosty relationship with Scott Walker. He is no fan of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% or Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) 86%. He is not a great ally to Rick Perry

I couldn't agree more.

Biggest fear should be Hilldawg shooting herself in the foot somewhere down the road...she needs to stay quiet for now while the GOPers are throwing poo at each other...once they get the field down to 7, she needs to pick a VP (Castro?) and go on the attack.
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(07-22-2015 08:28 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 08:17 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  John Kasich does not want to be President.

He's got my vote.

:-)

Probably why he should be president.
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(07-22-2015 09:13 AM)john01992 Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 09:11 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  The fact that this story was in the Washington Post, confirms for me that Kasich is the biggest fear that the Dems have.

I'd say that's a fair assessment. It's hilarious to me that guys like ER/Redstate will destroy their best candidates in favor of guys like Trump/Cruz with no chance of winning POTUS.

Well guys like me/Redstate aren't voting for guys like Bush/Kasich and neither are guys like you. Guys like me/Redstate will vote for guys like Cruz/Paul. Guys like you won't, but do the math.
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(07-22-2015 09:52 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 09:13 AM)john01992 Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 09:11 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  The fact that this story was in the Washington Post, confirms for me that Kasich is the biggest fear that the Dems have.

I'd say that's a fair assessment. It's hilarious to me that guys like ER/Redstate will destroy their best candidates in favor of guys like Trump/Cruz with no chance of winning POTUS.

Well guys like me/Redstate aren't voting for guys like Bush/Kasich and neither are guys like you. Guys like me/Redstate will vote for guys like Cruz/Paul. Guys like you won't, but do the math.

True, however if you want a chance you need guys like Kasich. I'm not gonna vote for him, but I certainly think he is not going to destroy this country with his craziness if he were elected which is why I can stomach a Kasich presidency. If I am thinking that then what are the moderates thinking?
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(07-22-2015 08:28 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 08:17 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  John Kasich does not want to be President.

He's got my vote.

I'd vote for him.
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(07-22-2015 10:21 AM)john01992 Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 09:52 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 09:13 AM)john01992 Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 09:11 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  The fact that this story was in the Washington Post, confirms for me that Kasich is the biggest fear that the Dems have.

I'd say that's a fair assessment. It's hilarious to me that guys like ER/Redstate will destroy their best candidates in favor of guys like Trump/Cruz with no chance of winning POTUS.

Well guys like me/Redstate aren't voting for guys like Bush/Kasich and neither are guys like you. Guys like me/Redstate will vote for guys like Cruz/Paul. Guys like you won't, but do the math.

True, however if you want a chance you need guys like Kasich. I'm not gonna vote for him, but I certainly think he is not going to destroy this country with his craziness if he were elected which is why I can stomach a Kasich presidency. If I am thinking that then what are the moderates thinking?

Conservatives outnumber moderates, IMO. Most "moderates" are white men and married women. They will fall for the alpha male, not the beta male or female. If there is no alpha male in the race, they'll vote for the proud liberal, not the moderate or someone who squishily waivers and can't coherently explain themselves.
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(07-22-2015 10:26 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 10:21 AM)john01992 Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 09:52 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 09:13 AM)john01992 Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 09:11 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  The fact that this story was in the Washington Post, confirms for me that Kasich is the biggest fear that the Dems have.

I'd say that's a fair assessment. It's hilarious to me that guys like ER/Redstate will destroy their best candidates in favor of guys like Trump/Cruz with no chance of winning POTUS.

Well guys like me/Redstate aren't voting for guys like Bush/Kasich and neither are guys like you. Guys like me/Redstate will vote for guys like Cruz/Paul. Guys like you won't, but do the math.

True, however if you want a chance you need guys like Kasich. I'm not gonna vote for him, but I certainly think he is not going to destroy this country with his craziness if he were elected which is why I can stomach a Kasich presidency. If I am thinking that then what are the moderates thinking?

Conservatives outnumber moderates, IMO. Most "moderates" are white men and married women. They will fall for the alpha male, not the beta male or female. If there is no alpha male in the race, they'll vote for the proud liberal, not the moderate or someone who squishily waivers and can't coherently explain themselves.

I'm really not sure WTF you are talking about here. Those moderates will vote liberal if the GOP can't put forward a respectable candidate. Last I checked the moderates + liberals > conservatives.
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After Obama everyone looks moderate.
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(07-22-2015 10:34 AM)john01992 Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 10:26 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 10:21 AM)john01992 Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 09:52 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 09:13 AM)john01992 Wrote:  I'd say that's a fair assessment. It's hilarious to me that guys like ER/Redstate will destroy their best candidates in favor of guys like Trump/Cruz with no chance of winning POTUS.

Well guys like me/Redstate aren't voting for guys like Bush/Kasich and neither are guys like you. Guys like me/Redstate will vote for guys like Cruz/Paul. Guys like you won't, but do the math.

True, however if you want a chance you need guys like Kasich. I'm not gonna vote for him, but I certainly think he is not going to destroy this country with his craziness if he were elected which is why I can stomach a Kasich presidency. If I am thinking that then what are the moderates thinking?

Conservatives outnumber moderates, IMO. Most "moderates" are white men and married women. They will fall for the alpha male, not the beta male or female. If there is no alpha male in the race, they'll vote for the proud liberal, not the moderate or someone who squishily waivers and can't coherently explain themselves.

I'm really not sure WTF you are talking about here. Those moderates will vote liberal if the GOP can't put forward a respectable candidate. Last I checked the moderates + liberals > conservatives.

Shhhhh. It's a secret.
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(07-22-2015 09:37 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 09:11 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  The fact that this story was in the Washington Post, confirms for me that Kasich is the biggest fear that the Dems have.

Quote:one does not run for President in the Republican Party by hiring consultants who hate the Republican base...... One runs that way to destroy others within the primary process.

You run that way to win the general election. But first he has to destroy the competition. Seems like a very clever strategy.

Quote:Kasich has a frosty relationship with Scott Walker. He is no fan of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% or Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) 86%. He is not a great ally to Rick Perry

I couldn't agree more.

Biggest fear should be Hilldawg shooting herself in the foot somewhere down the road...she needs to stay quiet for now while the GOPers are throwing poo at each other...once they get the field down to 7, she needs to pick a VP (Castro?) and go on the attack.

Hell, she doesn't have any feet left.
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