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Megaconferences
The idea here is simple. Take expansion to 11. Have conference sized divisions. This means you more or less eliminate OOC games. You get your FCS in state cupcake (which is actually encouraged in many states to help out the smaller public programs) and that's pretty much it. This even avoids having OOC rivalry games.


+ More money .... more inventory to sell
+ More money .... more TV markets covered
+ More money .... less OOC games means more inventory per capita
+ More money .... large enough to do travel partner based scheduling
- Death of meaningful regular season OOC games with far away opponents




Megaconference 1: Red States
Atlantic Division: UVA, VT, UNC, Duke, NCST, WF, UK, Pitt, WVU
Coastal Division: Clemson, USC-E, UGAg, GT, Auburn, TN, Vandy, Miami, UF
Southeastern Division: Alabama, Ole Miss, Miss State, LSU, Arkansas, TAMU, Texas, FSU, UofL
Plains Division: Baylor, TCU, TTU, OU, Oklahoma St, Mizzou, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State



Megaconference 2: Blue States
Northeast Division: Cuse, BC, UCONN, Rutgers, UMD, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan
Great Lakes Division: Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Purdue, Northwestern, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan State
Rockies Division: Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State, Colorado, Utah, Nebraska, Boise State
California Division: Cal, Stanford, USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, UNLV, SDSU



And you can join together the southeastern parts of the AAC, C-USA, and the Sun Belt to do one more megaconference. Then join together all the rest for one more megaconference.
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Poor NIU =*(
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Reminds me of the East-West split in the NBA and NHL which works for them, but you still have games against the other half every year. To be fair though, they play 82 game regular seasons. I guess this would be South/East vs North/West.

So you'd do 7 against your own division, 1 against the other three divisions in your conference, 1 FCS, + 1 from the other side?

8 team playoff (champs of each division) would be interesting...
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RE: Megaconferences
(07-21-2015 03:59 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  The idea here is simple. Take expansion to 11. Have conference sized divisions. This means you more or less eliminate OOC games. You get your FCS in state cupcake (which is actually encouraged in many states to help out the smaller public programs) and that's pretty much it. This even avoids having OOC rivalry games.


+ More money .... more inventory to sell
+ More money .... more TV markets covered
+ More money .... less OOC games means more inventory per capita
+ More money .... large enough to do travel partner based scheduling
- Death of meaningful regular season OOC games with far away opponents




Megaconference 1: Red States
Atlantic Division: UVA, VT, UNC, Duke, NCST, WF, Pitt, WV
Coastal Division: Clemson, USC-E, UGAg, GT, Auburn, TN, Vandy, UK
Southeastern Division: Alabama, Ole Miss, Miss State, LSU, Arkansas, TAMU, Texas, UofL
Plains Division: Baylor, TCU, TTU, OU, Oklahoma St, Mizzou, Kansas, Kansas State



Megaconference 2: Blue States
Northeast Division: Cuse, BC, UCONN, Rutgers, UMD, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan
Great Lakes Division: Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Purdue, Northwestern, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan State
Rockies Division: Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State, Colorado, Utah, Nebraska, Boise State
California Division: Cal, Stanford, USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, UNLV, SDSU



And you can join together the southeastern parts of the AAC, C-USA, and the Sun Belt to do one more megaconference. Then join together all the rest for one more megaconference.

And where are Florida, F.S.U. and Miami?
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Someone here is on crack. 05-stirthepot

I'm just glad you're not in charge of realigning conferences. 03-phew
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Did you seriously leave out the Florida schools?

And those conference names are horrendous.
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(07-21-2015 04:49 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 03:59 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  The idea here is simple. Take expansion to 11. Have conference sized divisions. This means you more or less eliminate OOC games. You get your FCS in state cupcake (which is actually encouraged in many states to help out the smaller public programs) and that's pretty much it. This even avoids having OOC rivalry games.


+ More money .... more inventory to sell
+ More money .... more TV markets covered
+ More money .... less OOC games means more inventory per capita
+ More money .... large enough to do travel partner based scheduling
- Death of meaningful regular season OOC games with far away opponents




Megaconference 1: Red States
Atlantic Division: UVA, VT, UNC, Duke, NCST, WF, Pitt, WV
Coastal Division: Clemson, USC-E, UGAg, GT, Auburn, TN, Vandy, UK
Southeastern Division: Alabama, Ole Miss, Miss State, LSU, Arkansas, TAMU, Texas, UofL
Plains Division: Baylor, TCU, TTU, OU, Oklahoma St, Mizzou, Kansas, Kansas State



Megaconference 2: Blue States
Northeast Division: Cuse, BC, UCONN, Rutgers, UMD, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan
Great Lakes Division: Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Purdue, Northwestern, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan State
Rockies Division: Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State, Colorado, Utah, Nebraska, Boise State
California Division: Cal, Stanford, USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, UNLV, SDSU



And you can join together the southeastern parts of the AAC, C-USA, and the Sun Belt to do one more megaconference. Then join together all the rest for one more megaconference.

And where are Florida, F.S.U. and Miami?

The Hardwood Division:
Duke, Kentucky, Louisville, North Carolina, N.C. State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest

The Atlantic Division:
Auburn, Clemson, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Miami, South Carolina

The Gulf Division:
Alabama, Baylor, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Miss State, Tennessee, Texas A&M, Vanderbilt

The Chisholm Trail Division:
Arkansas, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, T.C.U. Texas Tech

Hows That?
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You left out South Carolina. Drop Vanderbilt for them.
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(07-21-2015 05:01 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  You left out South Carolina. Drop Vanderbilt for them.

I shifted Vanderbilt and T.C.U. and dropped Iowa State. Thanks.
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(07-21-2015 04:49 PM)JRsec Wrote:  And where are Florida, F.S.U. and Miami?

Woopsie. Fixed. And by fixing it I went to 9 which is actually *perfect* for scheduling.
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UConn votes yes.

Is our "cupcake" Ohio State or Penn State?
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(07-21-2015 04:53 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Did you seriously leave out the Florida schools?

And those conference names are horrendous.


Fixed the FL bug.

I welcome better division names and conference names. I put zero effort into them.
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(07-21-2015 04:50 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  Someone here is on crack. 05-stirthepot

I'm just glad you're not in charge of realigning conferences. 03-phew


The more I consider this idea the more I think we're headed there. It's a HUGE increase in money. It consolidates power. It eliminates scheduling issues. It paves the way for a larger playoff where conference championships themselves actually extend the playoff bracket. And it reduces costs.
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(07-21-2015 03:59 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  The idea here is simple. Take expansion to 11. Have conference sized divisions. This means you more or less eliminate OOC games. You get your FCS in state cupcake (which is actually encouraged in many states to help out the smaller public programs) and that's pretty much it. This even avoids having OOC rivalry games.


+ More money .... more inventory to sell
+ More money .... more TV markets covered
+ More money .... less OOC games means more inventory per capita
+ More money .... large enough to do travel partner based scheduling
- Death of meaningful regular season OOC games with far away opponents




Megaconference 1: Red States
Atlantic Division: UVA, VT, UNC, Duke, NCST, WF, UK, Pitt, WVU
Coastal Division: Clemson, USC-E, UGAg, GT, Auburn, TN, Vandy, Miami, UF
Southeastern Division: Alabama, Ole Miss, Miss State, LSU, Arkansas, TAMU, Texas, FSU, UofL
Plains Division: Baylor, TCU, TTU, OU, Oklahoma St, Mizzou, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State



Megaconference 2: Blue States
Northeast Division: Cuse, BC, UCONN, Rutgers, UMD, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan
Great Lakes Division: Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Purdue, Northwestern, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan State
Rockies Division: Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State, Colorado, Utah, Nebraska, Boise State
California Division: Cal, Stanford, USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, UNLV, SDSU



And you can join together the southeastern parts of the AAC, C-USA, and the Sun Belt to do one more megaconference. Then join together all the rest for one more megaconference.

I like the 9's. It prevents squabbles over who is in and who is not.
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(07-21-2015 05:31 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 04:50 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  Someone here is on crack. 05-stirthepot

I'm just glad you're not in charge of realigning conferences. 03-phew


The more I consider this idea the more I think we're headed there. It's a HUGE increase in money. It consolidates power. It eliminates scheduling issues. It paves the way for a larger playoff where conference championships themselves actually extend the playoff bracket. And it reduces costs.

It also alienates huge tracks of fans. You're leaving out schools with huge alumni bases and markets. It's all well and good until someone realizes that they are losing money by pushing fans of schools left out to root for Pro teams.

I know I'm not alone when I say, I'll never root for a so called power school or conference. I don't even watch them any more. If the game doesn't impact my school, it's not watched.

So continue the money grab until you ruin your product. Then when everyone loses money, you'll be out of a job and left to wither on the vine like the school you left out. I'm looking at you ESPN. 07-coffee3
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(07-21-2015 05:28 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 04:53 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Did you seriously leave out the Florida schools?

And those conference names are horrendous.


Fixed the FL bug.

I welcome better division names and conference names. I put zero effort into them.

No UF, UM, Clemson or GT in FSU's conference?

I see you managed to make the perfect GT conference though...
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(07-21-2015 05:53 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 05:28 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 04:53 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Did you seriously leave out the Florida schools?

And those conference names are horrendous.


Fixed the FL bug.

I welcome better division names and conference names. I put zero effort into them.

No UF, UM, Clemson or GT in FSU's conference?

I see you managed to make the perfect GT conference though...


Actually GT would lose the ability to play UNC yearly and maybe Duke too. Figured you wouldn't cry too hard picking up Bama and Texas. As to why you're over there ..... this rough geographical outline should help with that.

http://i.imgur.com/aUnmFis.png


I welcome recommendations for shuffling teams around within those divisions.
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Tweaked divisions:
Megaconference 1: Red States
Atlantic Division: UVA, VT, UNC, NCST, Duke, WF, Pitt, WVU, UK
Coastal Division: Clemson, USC-E, UGAg, GT, Auburn, TN, FSU, UF, UofL
Southeastern Division: Alabama, Ole Miss, Miss State, LSU, Arkansas, TAMU, Texas, Vandy, Miami
Plains Division: Baylor, TCU, TTU, OU, Oklahoma St, Mizzou, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State



Casualties:
- Bama vs TN (already broken)
- Duke vs GT (historic, but usually not a critical game)
- UNC vs GT
- TN vs Vandy
- TN vs UK (historic, but usually not a critical game) ..... could be kept by swapping UofL and UK.
- Miami vs FSU :(
- Miami vs UF (already broken)

It does however bring back several defunct ones:
- TAMU vs Texas
- Missouri vs Kansas
- GT vs Auburn
- GT vs TN
- Pitt vs WVU
- VT vs WVU

I think you can fix nearly every break by having permanent rivals in all other divisions. That gets you 11 games. But you don't see anybody from the other divisions outside your rival. You could do a every-other-year crossover rival to compromise.
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One change I would LIKE to make but haven't because it would be messy is Iowa State to the Blue State megaconference and Nebraska to the Red State megaconference. That's the only swap I see that makes sense "across enemy lines" as it were.
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Yeah, just what this country needs. It's college football politicized. I tell ya, I am ready for the day when they separate this country into 4-5 smaller countries and just have a military confederacy which would be much closer to what this country was originally intended to be.

You want to become the next China or India in the South? Well damn it, it's the American way to let you be that. You can brag about how your country is doing better while you live in a shack and the Elite have all of your money.
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