(07-20-2015 08:11 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  EDIT: Now if it becomes at all clear that people are being classified in this manner as a way to exclude gun ownership, instead of the other way around, then we have an issue.

Then it will be too late.

(07-21-2015 04:02 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(07-20-2015 08:11 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  EDIT: Now if it becomes at all clear that people are being classified in this manner as a way to exclude gun ownership, instead of the other way around, then we have an issue.

Then it will be too late.

No it won't. It's things like this that make me hesitant to mention I'm a gun owner and support the second amendment, they tend to be soooooooo dramatic.

(07-21-2015 12:25 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 08:34 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 07:35 AM)tigertom Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 06:04 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 01:47 AM)RobertN Wrote:  Hmm. I seem to recall a gun show loophole and family members can pass hem to other family members without a check if I am not mistaken.

gave one to pops for xmas.....a little .22 that easily fits in his pocket.....just in case he encountered a thug in the parking lot at wally world....

I understand. He'll thank you for that too.... over and over.

he already has

So he already shot a black guy?

vag

(07-21-2015 04:15 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 04:02 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(07-20-2015 08:11 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  EDIT: Now if it becomes at all clear that people are being classified in this manner as a way to exclude gun ownership, instead of the other way around, then we have an issue.

Then it will be too late.

No it won't. It's things like this that make me hesitant to mention I'm a gun owner and support the second amendment, they tend to be soooooooo dramatic.

It's not dramatics. It's the same slippery slope argument that is used by both sides on various issues. The only difference is that on the issue of gun ownership and 2nd ammendment rights it's truely a potential life or death situation, not to mention that it's the most visible and symbolic right that we are granted as a check to government.

(07-21-2015 02:14 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 01:59 AM)Kronke Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 01:47 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 01:02 AM)Kronke Wrote:  

(07-20-2015 04:30 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Shouldn't they have had a federal background check to get the gun in the first place?

Yes, whoever wrote that article is clueless. He's proposing that if you are deemed "mentally incapable", it would be grounds to be denied the purchase.

Hmm. I seem to recall a gun show loophole and family members can pass hem to other family members without a check if I am not mistaken.

The "gun show loophole" is nonsense and has nothing to do with gun shows. Your beef is with private sales, and criminals are going to partake in those regardless.

Um, I do believe that the private sale at the gun show was the loophole. Of course, these "private sales" at the gun shows usually included numerous weapons.

This only applies to the individual carrying a rifle/ weapon on their person wanting to sell to another individual.

All the vendors are licensed FFL dealers AND have conduct the current FBI/ NICS background checks.

This entire myth of 40% of all gun sales loop hole at gun shows is a joke !

This is all incremental gun confiscation. Plain and simple.

(07-22-2015 09:47 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 02:14 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 01:59 AM)Kronke Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 01:47 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 01:02 AM)Kronke Wrote:  Yes, whoever wrote that article is clueless. He's proposing that if you are deemed "mentally incapable", it would be grounds to be denied the purchase.

Hmm. I seem to recall a gun show loophole and family members can pass hem to other family members without a check if I am not mistaken.

The "gun show loophole" is nonsense and has nothing to do with gun shows. Your beef is with private sales, and criminals are going to partake in those regardless.

Um, I do believe that the private sale at the gun show was the loophole. Of course, these "private sales" at the gun shows usually included numerous weapons.

This only applies to the individual carrying a rifle/ weapon on their person wanting to sell to another individual.

All the vendors are licensed FFL dealers AND have conduct the current FBI/ NICS background checks.

This entire myth of 40% of all gun sales loop hole at gun shows is a joke !

This is all incremental gun confiscation. Plain and simple.

So basically, anybody that wants to buy a gun can just go to a gun show and buy a gun in a private sale, with no background checks?

(07-22-2015 09:57 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 09:47 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 02:14 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 01:59 AM)Kronke Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 01:47 AM)RobertN Wrote:  Hmm. I seem to recall a gun show loophole and family members can pass hem to other family members without a check if I am not mistaken.

The "gun show loophole" is nonsense and has nothing to do with gun shows. Your beef is with private sales, and criminals are going to partake in those regardless.

Um, I do believe that the private sale at the gun show was the loophole. Of course, these "private sales" at the gun shows usually included numerous weapons.

This only applies to the individual carrying a rifle/ weapon on their person wanting to sell to another individual.

All the vendors are licensed FFL dealers AND have conduct the current FBI/ NICS background checks.

This entire myth of 40% of all gun sales loop hole at gun shows is a joke !

This is all incremental gun confiscation. Plain and simple.

So basically, anybody that wants to buy a gun can just go to a gun show and buy a gun in a private sale, with no background checks?

Yup. And the NRA wants to keep it that way.

As it should be. I 'll sell you chord of wood and a chainsaw too. No background checks person to person on those items.

(07-22-2015 10:55 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  As it should be. I 'll sell you chord of wood and a chainsaw too. No background checks person to person on those items.

Actually selling a chord of wood is more related than selling a gun. LMFAO