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RE: Big 12 Commish - No 'critical mass' for expansion.
(07-24-2015 07:51 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  I don't see why any Louisville fans would be all that upset about the way things worked out. Sure, some of them may feel that they were snubbed by the big 12 but that turned out to get them an invite to the ACC which is Much better for Louisville.

Only downside is access to the playoffs.

Can Louisville start the season in the top 5 and go undefeated in the ACC with a non conference slate equal to Florida, OSU, and Notre Dame.

That is what it takes to get in the playoff if you are in the ACC. I forgot to mention having a heisman QB as well.

So essentially unless you start the season highly ranked, go undefeated, and have 3 p-5 programs including 2 big names for an OOC schedule, and win the ACC CCG you have little chance to get in the playoff.

Lets see who Louisville has for OOC coming up. Not sure if that will be enough.
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RE: Big 12 Commish - No 'critical mass' for expansion.
I think with the parity in College Football, thanks in large part to the Playoff System that doesn't just pencil in an SEC team to play for the Title...yeah, I think Louisville can do it in the ACC as much as anyone else in the ACC can.
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RE: Big 12 Commish - No 'critical mass' for expansion.
(07-24-2015 04:22 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  I think with the parity in College Football, thanks in large part to the Playoff System that doesn't just pencil in an SEC team to play for the Title...yeah, I think Louisville can do it in the ACC as much as anyone else in the ACC can.

He is referring to FSU's journey last year, yet ignoring the what lead to them falling down a couple of spots from the top. Hint: it wasn't the schedule.
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(07-24-2015 03:30 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Regardless, your comment that Louisville fans hate the BigXII is amusingly wrong.

I'm just basing it on the Big 12 bashing here and what I saw on one of the UL boards back after WVU was added. UL is up there with Mizzou.
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I don't see why Louisville would have a problem getting in. They might end up like Baylor or TCU though if a similar situation happened. Brand history does matter. No worries though, the playoff will be expanded after the conferences get what they want first. When that happens, schools like Louisville, Baylor and TCU will know that they only have to win their conference and then they are assured access.
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(07-24-2015 04:22 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  I think with the parity in College Football, thanks in large part to the Playoff System that doesn't just pencil in an SEC team to play for the Title...yeah, I think Louisville can do it in the ACC as much as anyone else in the ACC can.

Louisville has a much better chance than most ACC teams. Better reputation and getting to play a SEC team annually. Better division than half the ACC. Good # of Notre Dame games coming up. All things working in your favor on top of a good football coach.

Compare that to someone like most of the Coastal division, Wake, Cuse, BC along with their OOC schedule and there is realistically no chance before the seasons even starts due to SOS issues.

There is no doubt in my mind that even with a crappy OOC schedule Baylor would get in the playoff if they went undefeated. That is an entirely different situation than what the majority of ACC teams face.
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(07-24-2015 06:20 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  I don't see why Louisville would have a problem getting in. They might end up like Baylor or TCU though if a similar situation happened. Brand history does matter. No worries though, the playoff will be expanded after the conferences get what they want first. When that happens, schools like Louisville, Baylor and TCU will know that they only have to win their conference and then they are assured access.

Baylor or TCU go undefeated they are in. HEck they almost got in with 1 loss and a weak OOC schedule last year.

For Louisville it depends. How good is the Coastal champ in the ACC CCG. How many power conference teams in OOC play? Any big names or highly rated OOC games? Did they catch Notre Dame this year? How good were FSU and Clemson? All things that matter which TCU and Baylor don't have to worry about.

With 1 loss Louisville would not get in. FSU would not have gotten in last year with 1 loss IMO. TCU and Baylor might still have a shot depending on if there is an upset in a CCG.
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(07-24-2015 06:25 PM)Okielite Wrote:  
(07-24-2015 06:20 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  I don't see why Louisville would have a problem getting in. They might end up like Baylor or TCU though if a similar situation happened. Brand history does matter. No worries though, the playoff will be expanded after the conferences get what they want first. When that happens, schools like Louisville, Baylor and TCU will know that they only have to win their conference and then they are assured access.

Baylor or TCU go undefeated they are in. HEck they almost got in with 1 loss and a weak OOC schedule last year.

For Louisville it depends. How good is the Coastal champ in the ACC CCG. How many power conference teams in OOC play? Any big names or highly rated OOC games? Did they catch Notre Dame this year? How good were FSU and Clemson? All things that matter which TCU and Baylor don't have to worry about.

With 1 loss Louisville would not get in. FSU would not have gotten in last year with 1 loss IMO. TCU and Baylor might still have a shot depending on if there is an upset in a CCG.

No one is debating the undefeated thing. Any debate is always about teams with 1 loss or more. You could see a season with four undefeated teams in the playoff but the chances of that are extremely slim.

So, my comparison was in regards to teams with losses. Just clarifying that.
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(07-24-2015 04:44 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-24-2015 03:30 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Regardless, your comment that Louisville fans hate the BigXII is amusingly wrong.

I'm just basing it on the Big 12 bashing here and what I saw on one of the UL boards back after WVU was added. UL is up there with Mizzou.

As one of the closer teams to WVU, we dealt with West Virginia fans a lot. And delaite claims from astute posters like Bitcruncher, a fine gentleman, their fans are trash in many cases. Especially since with most fanbases the traveling group are the "best" fans. With WVU they leave a bad taste. Add that to the message board posters from WVU, and the Legions of the Dude, and that is where animosity lies. With WVU, not the Big 12. We all knew hen the Big 12 preferred uofl as a whole: remmwber uolf was approached well before WVU was (when Pitt was), but the timing was not right as the big 12 was in PAC 16 turmoil. As a whole, we simply just don't hate or care about the Big 12. But mocking WVU's predicament never gets old.
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RE: Big 12 Commish - No 'critical mass' for expansion.
I don't know too many Louisville fans that have nice things to say about WVU, but it's more due to the boorish behavior of their fans that we had to deal with than it is anything else. There's never been any real animosity towards the BigXII as a whole, just WVU, and mostly because of their fans' behavior, not simply because they were in and we were not. As I've said, things played out in our favor in the end so what is there to be upset about?

For the record: It's worth noting that most WVU fans on these boards here have actually been rather chill folks. Unfortunately however, this is about the ONLY place I've encountered relatively rational Eers fans.
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