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(07-17-2015 10:20 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 10:17 PM)ICB Wrote:  Some of the heat Ingram feels is about what he says. Sometimes it's just better to say nothing. He don't understand where the distrust comes from? That's a slap in the face to everyone who really support this program.

But last week, he catching heat for keeping quiet.

In other words, he's damn if he do and damn if he don't.

He took the job knowing full well the **** storm he was walking into. These cryptic interviews and recycled emails to boosters are not helping his cause. He has a world off opportunity here to look like a hero but he just hasn't given me that impression....yet

(07-18-2015 06:44 AM)blazerball25 Wrote:  He took the job knowing full well the **** storm he was walking into. These cryptic interviews and recycled emails to boosters are not helping his cause. He has a world off opportunity here to look like a hero but he just hasn't given me that impression....yet

We didn't hire him, and we don't pay his salary. I'm not defending him, but some of our fans haven't given him a chance from day 1. He was never going to be given a fair chance from some, and that's been evident throughout.

(07-18-2015 06:44 AM)blazerball25 Wrote:  He took the job knowing full well the **** storm he was walking into.

A storm with administration, yes. Fans, not so much. How does Ingram becomes a hero from a fan perspective?

(07-17-2015 10:20 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 10:17 PM)ICB Wrote:  Some of the heat Ingram feels is about what he says. Sometimes it's just better to say nothing. He don't understand where the distrust comes from? That's a slap in the face to everyone who really support this program.

But last week, he catching heat for keeping quiet.

And don't forgot there was the freak-out when everyone thought he was going to go on the radio and make some sort of announcement the week before that. So he has been beaten up for not communicating and for communicating. The guy can't win.

I don't know if Ingram is the going to be good for UAB. However, from what little I've seen (which is just the public stuff) he seems to be making an earnest effort for a f***** up situation.

At least the fundraising effort seems to be picking up speed. I wouldn't be shocked if no UAB athletic contract gets finished/approved until PBJr leaves the BOT sometime in September.

Because of all the media attention the killing and rebirthing of the Athletic programs, and the suspicion of who knew what, when, how and what did they do about it, the BOT is on noticed that they are being watched.
Our previous AD was conditioned to associate with, seek advice from, and execute based on the BOT wishes. The BOT will not be as overt with this AD because there is no relationship or conditioning between this AD and this BOT.
I suspect Watts will not verbally say to this AD we must do what the BOT want us to do or we will not get anything done. I suspect Watts will let it be known through others with direct ties with him that he isn't in control of UAB athletics and BOT >PBJ will be calling the shots.
Until a contract is signed by the AD and our Coach everything is uncertain and in many ways nothing has changed.

I've been critical of the lack of updates and there are other things that don't strike me as a good look, but I'm still giving Ingram the benefit of doubt.

Why would he come here to be a hated lackey that's gone the instant competent people regain control? There are prestigious places to go that pay better if that's what he sought and the same argument for instating Dr. Watts doesn't work with Ingram. More than that, it was immediately obvious to everyone that this situation wasn't friendly to administrators. What does Ingram stand to gain by coming here and effectively stalling our efforts and killing the momentum?

Instead of thinking that he's conniving with administration, it makes a whole lot more sense that he sincerely wants to pursue stuff and that his hands are just tied. The ship that he wants to fix is still being steered by people that nearly sunk it, after all.

(07-17-2015 10:20 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 10:17 PM)ICB Wrote:  Some of the heat Ingram feels is about what he says. Sometimes it's just better to say nothing. He don't understand where the distrust comes from? That's a slap in the face to everyone who really support this program.

But last week, he catching heat for keeping quiet.

Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt

Its just that when he does speak he presents more(new) questions than answers...

So "we should give the guy a break"? Really? Either he is simply doing a poor job of handling his position and communicating because isn't capable or not doing a good job and communicating or because Watts has tied his hands. If the former is true, he doesn't deserve a break. It he latter is true in my humble opinion he doesn't deserve a break either.

Unfair, I don't think so, and here's why. Ingram knew or should have known exactly what situation he was walking into. He knew full well who he would be working for. A wise man would have planned for all contingencies. He should have had an understanding with Watts before he signed on as to what he would be expected to do if football came back to make sure that he wasn't going to played for a fool. If he didn't get that kind understanding in advance then he is a fool because he should have walked away. That would not be unprecedented by any means, the nominating committee's 1st choice walked away. That's what allowed Ingram, the committee's 4th choice to even be considered.

Given that I don't believe Ingram is incapable, I'm betting that he essentially agreed to be Watts' lap dog. That may the reason that 2nd and 3rd choices didn't get the job was because they refuse to take on that role.

I don't exactly what the situation is, but if a guy is either incapable or someone's lap dog, I just don't see why we should give him any slack.

To answer your question, Yes, he should be given a break. I didn't read the rest of the rambling.

I'm all about giving him a break.

Sure, I found the lack of any real updates annoying and things I thought would be simple ended up so complicated, but I attribute a lot of this stuff to the administration. I don't know much about Ingram aside from his bio and what he shared during the conference. I can only work off what I know for sure: he's new, he works for Dr. Watts, and he hasn't went VP of Financial Affairs on us yet. I know he hasn't capitalized on anything just yet, either, but he hasn't given me any reason to be against him.

Distrusting him from the onset, antagonizing him, or whatever doesn't provide any reasonable discourse, though. The very least we could do is try to be accepting and not jump the gun. Remaining suspicious of the administration is and will always be a given until changes come about, but we can't extend those same feelings to Ingram. That's the makings of a toxic relationship, and that's the last thing we need on the eve of a changed athletic department.

(07-19-2015 01:49 AM)Hopeful Wrote:  I'm all about giving him a break.

Sure, I found the lack of any real updates annoying and things I thought would be simple ended up so complicated, but I attribute a lot of this stuff to the administration. I don't know much about Ingram aside from his bio and what he shared during the conference. I can only work off what I know for sure: he's new, he works for Dr. Watts, and he hasn't went VP of Financial Affairs on us yet. I know he hasn't capitalized on anything just yet, either, but he hasn't given me any reason to be against him.

Distrusting him from the onset, antagonizing him, or whatever doesn't provide any reasonable discourse, though. The very least we could do is try to be accepting and not jump the gun. Remaining suspicious of the administration is and will always be a given until changes come about, but we can't extend those same feelings to Ingram. That's the makings of a toxic relationship, and that's the last thing we need on the eve of a changed athletic department.

One of the most important jobs of an AD is communications with all parties who have a stake. (And given the situation we have a bigger stake as fans and boosters than those of any other program I can think of.) Continuing the Watts' policy of keeping everything close to the vest is highly suspicious; in this atmosphere it is especially poisonous. As I wrote in my previous post, sure Watts' hand may be in in this, but if Ingram valued getting the job over establishing with Watts how he would be allowed to deal with this very difficult situation, he is an ambitious fool.

Given what we have gone though we have every reason to be suspicious of the way he is handling the job and we have every right as fans and boosters who saved the football program to express our dissatisfaction. If we don't, why would he ever change his tactics. Keep in mind, if everything turns out well there well be many years for us to repair relations with our AD and his with us. What Ingram should be considering now is whether he wants continue to do the bidding of his current master or he wants to remain our AD after Watts is gone.

I find him not telling the truth about some issues disturbing. That said once Watts is gone he will have an opportune ity to sink or swim. He can be a BOT lap dog or his own man. I vote for the latter. I will give him a chance but have not been happy with certain issues I cant reveal publicly. I'm pretty sure Cajun knows what I am talking about.

I'm done!