Well. I suppose when Obama was touting how great of a deal this was, he neglected to mention that Iran is not going to allow ANY American inspectors in to inspect nuclear facilities.



No American Inspectors

Man, what a great deal.

Meh, it isn't that big of deal. Not all "nuclear experts" in the world are American. The inspectors will still be qualified to enforce the deal, even if there are no Americans.

(07-17-2015 01:14 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Meh, it isn't that big of deal. Not all "nuclear experts" in the world are American. The inspectors will still be qualified to enforce the deal, even if there are no Americans.

Would have been the perfect opportunity to ask for our hostages back. If we were going to tuck tail and concede anyway.

This is just another example of the incompetence of Obama and his entire administration. Do you think ANY other president would've agreed to this?? No.

Oops ! Fits right in there with All of His other Grandiose failures. " Just look the other way , it's OK Trust Us " Guess No one read the fine print either this time too .

I actually think Obama did an average job for this first 6 years in office.

Lately he's been an unmitigated shitbag though.

(07-17-2015 01:16 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 01:14 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Meh, it isn't that big of deal. Not all "nuclear experts" in the world are American. The inspectors will still be qualified to enforce the deal, even if there are no Americans.

Would have been the perfect opportunity to ask for our hostages back. If we were going to tuck tail and concede anyway.

This is just another example of the incompetence of Obama and his entire administration. Do you think ANY other president would've agreed to this?? No.

No, I think it shows that they didn't exactly get a good deal from our perspective but I can see why they may have said this wasn't a big deal.

(07-17-2015 01:10 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Well. I suppose when Obama was touting how great of a deal this was, he neglected to mention that Iran is not going to allow ANY American inspectors in to inspect nuclear facilities.



No American Inspectors

Then we use non-US inspectors. I think US inspectors should be allowed but I have not read the deal so the deal may include such wording.

This is probably fallout from what I think is an open secret that the Iraqi inspection regime included US spies along with inspectors. True or not, rumors to that effect are enough to get Iran to remain entrenched on this point.

(07-17-2015 01:10 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Well. I suppose when Obama was touting how great of a deal this was, he neglected to mention that Iran is not going to allow ANY American inspectors in to inspect nuclear facilities.



No American Inspectors

I expect that was one of the concessions taking in to account the animosity between the two nations. I doubt it is going to matter anyway. The Iranians will cheat and still get what they want in the long run unless someone is ready to use aggression to stop them. This deal only buys a small amount of time and the outside chance that they can be brought into the nuclear paradigm responsibly. Im not optimistic that will happen. This deal pretty much was a win/win for Iran. It pretty much was a gamble for the US without any real positive aspects.

(07-17-2015 01:16 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 01:14 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Meh, it isn't that big of deal. Not all "nuclear experts" in the world are American. The inspectors will still be qualified to enforce the deal, even if there are no Americans.

Would have been the perfect opportunity to ask for our hostages back. If we were going to tuck tail and concede anyway.

This is just another example of the incompetence of Obama and his entire administration. Do you think ANY other president would've agreed to this?? No.

Yes. I do think there would be other s that would. Of course, I doubt many(if any) right wing presidents would. They would just go to war and/or nuke Iran.

(07-17-2015 01:30 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 01:16 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 01:14 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Meh, it isn't that big of deal. Not all "nuclear experts" in the world are American. The inspectors will still be qualified to enforce the deal, even if there are no Americans.

Would have been the perfect opportunity to ask for our hostages back. If we were going to tuck tail and concede anyway.

This is just another example of the incompetence of Obama and his entire administration. Do you think ANY other president would've agreed to this?? No.

Yes. I do think there would be other s that would. Of course, I doubt many(if any) right wing presidents would. They would just go to war and/or nuke Iran.

History obviously proves you wrong in regard to Conservative Presidents using aggression against Iran.

(07-17-2015 01:30 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 01:16 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 01:14 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Meh, it isn't that big of deal. Not all "nuclear experts" in the world are American. The inspectors will still be qualified to enforce the deal, even if there are no Americans.

Would have been the perfect opportunity to ask for our hostages back. If we were going to tuck tail and concede anyway.

This is just another example of the incompetence of Obama and his entire administration. Do you think ANY other president would've agreed to this?? No.

Yes. I do think there would be other s that would. Of course, I doubt many(if any) right wing presidents would. They would just go to war and/or nuke Iran.

You're full of ****.

A Conservative President would have walked away from the table and re-instated sanctions. See how Reagan defeated the USSR. He threatened to walk away, and in the meantime, built up the military. Negotiate from a position of STRENGTH, not capitulation.

(07-17-2015 01:14 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Meh, it isn't that big of deal. Not all "nuclear experts" in the world are American. The inspectors will still be qualified to enforce the deal, even if there are no Americans.

Pakistani nuclear inspector: "Nothing to see here."
North Korean nuclear inspector: "Nothing to see here."
Russian nuclear inspector: "Nothing to see here."


Canadian nuclear inspector: "HOLY SHITE THEY HAVE THE BO......"

/sound of door closing, muffled gunshot.

(07-17-2015 01:32 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 01:30 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 01:16 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 01:14 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Meh, it isn't that big of deal. Not all "nuclear experts" in the world are American. The inspectors will still be qualified to enforce the deal, even if there are no Americans.

Would have been the perfect opportunity to ask for our hostages back. If we were going to tuck tail and concede anyway.

This is just another example of the incompetence of Obama and his entire administration. Do you think ANY other president would've agreed to this?? No.

Yes. I do think there would be other s that would. Of course, I doubt many(if any) right wing presidents would. They would just go to war and/or nuke Iran.

History obviously proves you wrong in regard to Conservative Presidents using aggression against Iran.

So you don't think McCCain would have used aggression against Iran? You are being naive. Bush couldn't do it because he already took us into 2 wars. A third would not have been possible.

(07-17-2015 01:41 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 01:32 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 01:30 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 01:16 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 01:14 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Meh, it isn't that big of deal. Not all "nuclear experts" in the world are American. The inspectors will still be qualified to enforce the deal, even if there are no Americans.

Would have been the perfect opportunity to ask for our hostages back. If we were going to tuck tail and concede anyway.

This is just another example of the incompetence of Obama and his entire administration. Do you think ANY other president would've agreed to this?? No.

Yes. I do think there would be other s that would. Of course, I doubt many(if any) right wing presidents would. They would just go to war and/or nuke Iran.

History obviously proves you wrong in regard to Conservative Presidents using aggression against Iran.

So you don't think McCCain would have used aggression against Iran? You are being naive. Bush couldn't do it because he already took us into 2 wars. A third would not have been possible.

Since you can obviously tell the future, can you please give me the lotto #'s? Otherwise, shut up with that bull****.

McCain wanted a ground war against Libya.

No really, he did.

McCain would've been so bad. Like amazingly, historically bad.

He's got all the big government economic qualities of Obama, then you add a side of senile, and sprinkle some all-out ground wars, then we have John McCain.

(07-17-2015 01:41 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 01:32 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 01:30 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 01:16 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 01:14 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Meh, it isn't that big of deal. Not all "nuclear experts" in the world are American. The inspectors will still be qualified to enforce the deal, even if there are no Americans.

Would have been the perfect opportunity to ask for our hostages back. If we were going to tuck tail and concede anyway.

This is just another example of the incompetence of Obama and his entire administration. Do you think ANY other president would've agreed to this?? No.

Yes. I do think there would be other s that would. Of course, I doubt many(if any) right wing presidents would. They would just go to war and/or nuke Iran.

History obviously proves you wrong in regard to Conservative Presidents using aggression against Iran.

So you don't think McCCain would have used aggression against Iran? You are being naive. Bush couldn't do it because he already took us into 2 wars. A third would not have been possible.

So now you are resorting to theoretical BS to try and prove your point?...Ok.

(07-17-2015 01:33 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 01:30 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 01:16 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 01:14 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Meh, it isn't that big of deal. Not all "nuclear experts" in the world are American. The inspectors will still be qualified to enforce the deal, even if there are no Americans.

Would have been the perfect opportunity to ask for our hostages back. If we were going to tuck tail and concede anyway.

This is just another example of the incompetence of Obama and his entire administration. Do you think ANY other president would've agreed to this?? No.

Yes. I do think there would be other s that would. Of course, I doubt many(if any) right wing presidents would. They would just go to war and/or nuke Iran.

You're full of ****.

A Conservative President would have walked away from the table and re-instated sanctions. See how Reagan defeated the USSR. He threatened to walk away, and in the meantime, built up the military. Negotiate from a position of STRENGTH, not capitulation.

Of course they would have walked away. Of course, the use of sanctions wasn't deterring Iran from continuing working on a bomb so what happens then? You have to bomb.