Quote:UC San Diego failed to give a fair trial to a male student it found responsible for sexual misconduct last year by refusing to allow him to fully confront and cross-examine his accuser, a judge has ruled.

In what is believed to be the first ruling against the University of California in a sexual misconduct case, San Diego County Superior Court Judge Joel M. Pressman found there was insufficient evidence to support charges that the student, identified only as John Doe, had pressed a classmate to engage in sexual activity against her will in February 2014. Pressman ordered the university to drop its finding against Doe and all sanctions, including a suspension of one year and a quarter.

"It's a huge relief," said Doe, who asked for anonymity to protect his future academic and career plans.

In a statement Monday, UC San Diego said officials were "continuing to evaluate the decision, including whether to appeal," and had no further comment.

The case is being watched nationally, as concern has grown that the intensified crackdown on campus sexual assault over the last few years has skewed too far against those accused, violating their due process rights. Last fall, 28 Harvard Law School faculty members published an opinion article condemning their campus procedures on sexual assault cases as lacking "the most basic elements of fairness and due process" and "overwhelmingly stacked against the accused."

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me...story.html

A win for mankind.

nice!

it is a shame though. you have so many women crying wolf, it damages the chances of a woman who was actually raped from potentially coming forward, or getting others to believe it really happened. Super selfish of a girl to claim rape when it wasn't the case. Not only hurting the guy, but hurting actual rape victims.

(07-15-2015 07:32 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  nice!

it is a shame though. you have so many women crying wolf, it damages the chances of a woman who was actually raped from potentially coming forward, or getting others to believe it really happened. Super selfish of a girl to claim rape when it wasn't the case. Not only hurting the guy, but hurting actual rape victims.

They've already ruined it. Anytime an accusation is levied, I simply don't believe it anymore. And if the accuser goes to the media I can almost guarantee it is false.

Here is another from ODU. Sanity finally prevailing.

ODU issues warrant for woman who made false claim

Quote: ODU Police have issued a warrant for a woman who made a false claim that she was grabbed near Perry Library.

After completing an investigation into a report by the ODU student on July 6, Old Dominion University Police have determined this incident did not occur.

http://www.13newsnow.com/story/news/loca.../29804661/

CA & NY (NY passed it this very week) are the only two states with "Yes means and Yes" laws so I'm not surprised at all that this happened.

(07-16-2015 10:29 AM)john01992 Wrote:  CA & NY (NY passed it this very week) are the only two states with "Yes means and Yes" laws so I'm not surprised at all that this happened.

^^^ Exactly why we'll never see a long term prison reduction. Both sides are guilty of knee-jerk reactionism and the legislature reacts by sending the other side to prison.

Its a bad situation. Feminists want colleges to kick students out on a "guilty unless proven innocent beyond a reasonable doubt" basis. On the other hand, many colleges and police departments don't take rape seriously, even more so when football players are accused.

Such is the difficulty of prosecuting rape cases. They are almost always he-said-she-said affairs.

(07-15-2015 07:32 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  nice!

it is a shame though. you have so many women crying wolf, it damages the chances of a woman who was actually raped from potentially coming forward, or getting others to believe it really happened. Super selfish of a girl to claim rape when it wasn't the case. Not only hurting the guy, but hurting actual rape victims.

The number of cases where the woman is proven to be lying is about 2-8%.

In this case, the school didn't give the young man access to statements made by 14 witnesses or the statement made by the accuser. Defendants should have access to the evidence being used against them.

(07-16-2015 10:48 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 07:32 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  nice!

it is a shame though. you have so many women crying wolf, it damages the chances of a woman who was actually raped from potentially coming forward, or getting others to believe it really happened. Super selfish of a girl to claim rape when it wasn't the case. Not only hurting the guy, but hurting actual rape victims.

The number of cases where the woman is proven to be lying is about 2-8%.

In this case, the school didn't give the young man access to statements made by 14 witnesses or the statement made by the accuser. Defendants should have access to the evidence being used against them.

I wonder what the percentage is when the accuser talks to the media? Based on the last 10 years, I would guess closer to 75-80%. Bottom line, a lot of people are wrongly in prison and now the feminists and academia want to change the definition of rape to put more people wrongly in prison. And they wonder why we are seeing a large MGTOW movement.

(07-16-2015 10:57 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 10:48 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 07:32 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  nice!

it is a shame though. you have so many women crying wolf, it damages the chances of a woman who was actually raped from potentially coming forward, or getting others to believe it really happened. Super selfish of a girl to claim rape when it wasn't the case. Not only hurting the guy, but hurting actual rape victims.

The number of cases where the woman is proven to be lying is about 2-8%.

In this case, the school didn't give the young man access to statements made by 14 witnesses or the statement made by the accuser. Defendants should have access to the evidence being used against them.

I wonder what the percentage is when the accuser talks to the media? Based on the last 10 years, I would guess closer to 75-80%. Bottom line, a lot of people are wrongly in prison and now the feminists and academia want to change the definition of rape to put more people wrongly in prison. And they wonder why we are seeing a large MGTOW movement.

What example do you have other than the Duke stripper/drug addict (and that ODU example)?

There have been a lot never prosecuted but that only means there isn't sufficient evidence, not that it wasn't rape.

Off the top of my head...

1. The OP
2. The UVA/Rolling Stone scandal
3. Matress girl
4. Herman Cain
5. Leanne Black
6. Ashley Loder

(07-16-2015 10:35 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 10:29 AM)john01992 Wrote:  CA & NY (NY passed it this very week) are the only two states with "Yes means and Yes" laws so I'm not surprised at all that this happened.

^^^ Exactly why we'll never see a long term prison reduction. Both sides are guilty of knee-jerk reactionism and the legislature reacts by sending the other side to prison.

The most infuriating part about it is that it only applies to college campuses. It reminds me of the early days of texting when texting while driving was only outlawed for teens but not adults.

It's a fuc*ing disgrace that politicians pass laws that only apply to young people because the low voter turnout means it isn't their problem. If you don't have the confidence to make the law apply to everyone including yourself...then it shouldn't be a law.

(07-16-2015 12:54 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  Off the top of my head...

1. The OP
2. The UVA/Rolling Stone scandal
3. Matress girl
4. Herman Cain
5. Leanne Black
6. Ashley Loder

UVA/Rolling Stone wasn't necessarily a false one. It was the specifics that were false. I don't remember the others.

(07-16-2015 10:57 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  I wonder what the percentage is when the accuser talks to the media? Based on the last 10 years, I would guess closer to 75-80%. Bottom line, a lot of people are wrongly in prison and now the feminists and academia want to change the definition of rape to put more people wrongly in prison. And they wonder why we are seeing a large MGTOW movement.

Mgtow?