(07-15-2015 09:59 AM)UCF08 Wrote: (07-15-2015 09:57 AM)blunderbuss Wrote: (07-15-2015 09:43 AM)UCF08 Wrote: (07-15-2015 09:36 AM)blunderbuss Wrote: (07-15-2015 09:31 AM)UCF08 Wrote: Not forever and always, no, unless Planned Parenthood has taken actions showing they have any sort of inclination to those views. You really can't be serious with this.
Keep your head in the sand. The sociopath is in a senior position in the organization.
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/deborah-nuc...69/566/31b
No, how about you be an adult and at least admit that what I said was correct instead of changing the subject? I get it, this issue gets you upset, but grow the f*ck up and learn how to talk like an adult to another adult. Address my points, present cogent arguments, and at least give the impression you've read the post you're replying to. It shouldn't be too much to ask for.
OK, I'll address it.
#1 - I didn't post the founders statements.
#2 - http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-u...-successes
Sanger is referenced 18 times in this text. That doesn't include any reference to "her" or "she".
Quote:In 1966, Planned Parenthood Federation of America inaugurated the PPFA Margaret Sanger Award to honor the woman who founded America's family planning movement.
They issue an award with her name.
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-u...rd-winners
They call her a hero.
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/7...o_1009.pdf
Just going to go ahead and copy and past my response to another poster, as it's my feelings regarding this -
I don't know enough about Margaret Sanger to know whether or not she deserves an award named after her. A lot of people in that period were enchanted by the pseudo-scientific ideas of eugenics, and I don't know her reaction upon seeing those similar views taken to the extreme by Hitler. For all I know she became an ardent critic of eugenics in the last 40 years of her life, but I do know I'm not willing to make a snap judgement based on a single quote listed on a messageboard. Because I'm a rational adult.
Let me give you a few more quotes to start your Sanger Ed.
1) “We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population.”
2) “I accepted an invitation to talk to the women’s branch of the Ku Klux Klan.”
3) “They are…human weeds,’ ‘reckless breeders,’ ’spawning… human beings who never should have been born.”
4) “Birth control is nothing more or less than…weeding out the unfit.”
5) “Human beings who never should have been born at all.”
6) “I think the greatest sin in the world is bringing children into the world.”
7) “But for my view, I believe that there should be no more babies.”
And more:
The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.
Woman and the New Race, ch. 6: “The Wickedness of Creating Large Families.” Here, Sanger argues that, because the conditions of large families tend to involve poverty and illness, it is better for everyone involved if a child’s life is snuffed out before he or she has a chance to pose difficulties to its family.
[We should] apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is tainted, or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to offspring.
“Plan for Peace” from Birth Control Review (April 1932, pp. 107-108)
Article 1. The purpose of the American Baby Code shall be to provide for a better distribution of babies… and to protect society against the propagation and increase of the unfit.
Article 4. No woman shall have the legal right to bear a child, and no man shall have the right to become a father, without a permit…
Article 6. No permit for parenthood shall be valid for more than one birth.
“America Needs a Code for Babies,” 27 Mar 1934
Give dysgenic groups [people with “bad genes”] in our population their choice of segregation or [compulsory] sterilization.
April 1932 Birth Control Review, pg. 108
Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race.
Woman, Morality, and Birth Control. New York: New York Publishing Company, 1922. Page 12.
We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.
Margaret Sanger’s December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble, 255 Adams Street, Milton, Massachusetts. Also described in Linda Gordon’s Woman’s Body, Woman’s Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America. New York: Grossman Publishers, 1976.
A woman’s duty: To look the whole world in the face with a go-to-hell look in the eyes… to speak and act in defiance of convention.
The Woman Rebel, Volume I, Number 1
[The most penetrating thinkers] are coming to see that a qualitative factor as opposed to a quantitative one is of primary importance in dealing with the great masses of humanity.
Pivot of Civilization, 1922. Here, Margaret Sanger speaks on her eugenic philosophy – that only the types of “quality” people she and her peers viewed as worthy of life should be allowed to live.
Such parents swell the pathetic ranks of the unemployed. Feeble-mindedness perpetuates itself from the ranks of those who are blandly indifferent to their racial responsibilities. And it is largely this type of humanity we are now drawing upon to populate our world for the generations to come. In this orgy of multiplying and replenishing the earth, this type is pari passu multiplying and perpetuating those direst evils in which we must, if civilization is to survive, extirpate by the very roots.
The Need for Birth Control in America (quoted by Angela Franks.)
Women of the working class, especially wage workers, should not have more than two children at most. The average working man can support no more and and the average working woman can take care of no more in decent fashion.
For additional reading on the founder and hero of PP check out:
In “The Pivot of Civilization” and “A Plan for Peace,” where Sanger describes the eugenic value of eliminating persons – minorities, the sick, and the disabled – through sterilization or segregation.
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