Quote:The video was shot by a team led by David Daleiden of the Center for Medical Progress posing as representatives of a start up biotech firm in the business of buying fetal body parts for medical and scientific research. Daleiden told Breitbart News, “It as remarkably easy to make contact with Planned Parenthood” to discuss procurement of fetal tissue.
The video purports to show, between bites of lunch and sips of wine, Nucatola saying, “A lot of people want intact hearts these days, because they are looking for specific nodes.”
She adds: “Yesterday was the first time she said people wanted lungs. And then, like I said, always as many intact livers as possible. People just want…some people want lower extremities, too. I mean that’s easy. I don’t know what they’re doing with it, I guess they want muscle.”
Quote:She talks about pricing. “You know, I would throw a number out, and I would say it’s probably anywhere from $30 to $100 [per specimen] depending on the facility and what’s involved.”
In the video, Nucatola goes into great detail about ordering specific body parts and how the abortionist goes about ensuring those parts are not damaged in the abortion. She says the abortionist uses “ultrasound guidance, so they’ll know where they’re putting their forceps.”
Quote:Nucatola explains how to get around the federal ban on partial birth abortion. “The Federal [Partial Birth] Abortion Ban is a law, and laws are up to interpretation. So, if I say on day one, I do not intend to do this, what ultimately happens doesn’t matter.” Partial birth abortions are now a felony and punishable by up to 2 years in prison and a fine upwards of $250,000.
Quote:According to the US Criminal Code, the buying or selling human body parts is a federal felony. The commercial traffic of body parts from an aborted baby is punishable by up to 10 years in prison and/or a fine of up to $500,000.
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Would that Criminal Code apply to Planned Parenthood? Medical organizations deal with the sale of organs and fluids all the time, blood banks sell your blood for hundreds of dollars a pint for instance, so I'm honestly asking if that sort of exception would apply?
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(07-14-2015 01:11 PM)UCF08 Wrote: Would that Criminal Code apply to Planned Parenthood? Medical organizations deal with the sale of organs and fluids all the time, blood banks sell your blood for hundreds of dollars a pint for instance, so I'm honestly asking if that sort of exception would apply?
I managed to find one case about this...but it's pretty old. From reading this, I'm still not sure why this guy was not violating federal laws...maybe had something to do with it being for research?? Or maybe because the tissues were donated to him and he didn't pay for them?? Anyway...
Quote:A US Attorney in Kansas has decided that a man who sold fetal body parts from an Overland Park, Kan., abortion clinic did not violate any federal laws.
Miles Jones, the owner of Opening Lines, a West Frankfort, Ill., company involved in the sale of fetal body parts to researchers, had been placed under investigation by the FBI following media accounts that he had been selling the body parts for profit, which is against federal law.
Acting US Attorney Jim Flory decided "after a thorough review of the issues involved," that there were no violations of federal statutes, indicating that the investigation had drawn to a close.
Peter Brownlie, president of Planned Parenthood of Kansas and Mid-Missouri voiced his reaction, saying, "We are pleased that our patient's trust wasn't violated with any illegal activity."
"Planned Parenthood wasn't targeted in this investigation, but our patients are encouraged to donate tissue," he said. "We're glad that decision on their part wasn't abused in any way."
According to 20/20, the "donated tissue" procured by Jones from Brownlie's clinic was put up for sale at a profit during a 10-week period in 1998 when Jones' company held a contract with Planned Parenthood of Kansas and Mid-Missouri to dispose of the clinic's fetal tissue.
(This post was last modified: 07-14-2015 01:32 PM by Redwingtom.)
RE: Vile Baby Killers, Planned Parenthood, Sell Baby Parts
(07-14-2015 01:11 PM)UCF08 Wrote: Would that Criminal Code apply to Planned Parenthood? Medical organizations deal with the sale of organs and fluids all the time, blood banks sell your blood for hundreds of dollars a pint for instance, so I'm honestly asking if that sort of exception would apply?
Organ procurement groups operate under strict rules, you can't sell organs to the highest bidder.
People who need transplants are putt on waiting lists based on need, not who has the most money.
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(07-14-2015 01:32 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:
(07-14-2015 01:11 PM)UCF08 Wrote: Would that Criminal Code apply to Planned Parenthood? Medical organizations deal with the sale of organs and fluids all the time, blood banks sell your blood for hundreds of dollars a pint for instance, so I'm honestly asking if that sort of exception would apply?
Organ procurement groups operate under strict rules, you can't sell organs to the highest bidder.
People who need transplants are putt on waiting lists based on need, not who has the most money.
Of course, but there are still costs incurred for the organs, they are just not allowed to sell the organs to the highest bidder. It's the same for blood, you cannot legally sell it to the highest bidder (platelets, at least), but every blood bank in the nation sells your blood to local hospitals.
Even the quote in the OP “You know, I would throw a number out, and I would say it’s probably anywhere from $30 to $100 [per specimen] depending on the facility and what’s involved", seems to heavily imply that this isn't a situation in which those buying the tissues are bidding for them as much as they are paying the costs incurred by PP for procuring the tissue.
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(07-14-2015 01:32 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(07-14-2015 01:11 PM)UCF08 Wrote: Would that Criminal Code apply to Planned Parenthood? Medical organizations deal with the sale of organs and fluids all the time, blood banks sell your blood for hundreds of dollars a pint for instance, so I'm honestly asking if that sort of exception would apply?
I managed to find one case about this...but it's pretty old. From reading this, I'm still not sure why this guy was not violating federal laws...maybe had something to do with it being for research?? Or maybe because the tissues were donated to him and he didn't pay for them?? Anyway...
Quote:A US Attorney in Kansas has decided that a man who sold fetal body parts from an Overland Park, Kan., abortion clinic did not violate any federal laws.
Miles Jones, the owner of Opening Lines, a West Frankfort, Ill., company involved in the sale of fetal body parts to researchers, had been placed under investigation by the FBI following media accounts that he had been selling the body parts for profit, which is against federal law.
Acting US Attorney Jim Flory decided "after a thorough review of the issues involved," that there were no violations of federal statutes, indicating that the investigation had drawn to a close.
Peter Brownlie, president of Planned Parenthood of Kansas and Mid-Missouri voiced his reaction, saying, "We are pleased that our patient's trust wasn't violated with any illegal activity."
"Planned Parenthood wasn't targeted in this investigation, but our patients are encouraged to donate tissue," he said. "We're glad that decision on their part wasn't abused in any way."
According to 20/20, the "donated tissue" procured by Jones from Brownlie's clinic was put up for sale at a profit during a 10-week period in 1998 when Jones' company held a contract with Planned Parenthood of Kansas and Mid-Missouri to dispose of the clinic's fetal tissue.
Seems to me that the issue revolves around the possibility of selling this tissue at a profit.
Quote:Indeed, it is time to stop being surprised by the cruelty and barbarism of the abortion industry. Unless you are a liberal, or a pitiful, emasculated, “socially moderate” conservative who justifies your own moral cowardice by pontificating about the “gray areas” surrounding the wholesale butchery of infant humans, you really should not be shocked by anything these infanticide merchants do.
You know what abortion is, don’t you?
You know that Planned Parenthood might pretend it’s primary function is handing out condoms and mammogram referrals, but you know its business is abortion. You know that, by far, its primary source of revenue is abortion. That is, aside from the half a billion dollars in tax money it receives every year. You know that it rakes in ridiculous profits from abortion, and pays its executive hundreds of thousands of dollars a year from abortion, and earns its title as the nation’s largest and richest abortion provider by performing over 300,000 abortions annually.
Quote:Conservatives have been extremely ineffectual at combating the greatest evil of our time, abortion. Mostly, this is because they are afraid of the issue, or strangely unconcerned with it. But if the movement can do anything — if it even has a pulse — it ought to be able to use this horrific story to finally, once and for all, defund Planned Parenthood.
We should be outlawing abortion, conducting mass arrests of Planned Parenthood employees, and charging its executives and “doctors” with thousands of counts of first degree murder, but if we can’t do that, then at least we shouldn’t be giving these monsters our money. I know most Republicans won’t speak out eloquently against the practice of abortion, but for God’s sake, at a minimum every Republican politician in the country should be screaming from the rooftops that taxpayers should stop being forced to subsidize this criminal enterprise.
Quote:Planned Parenthood’s net revenue increased 5% to total of $1.21 billion in its organizational fiscal year ending on June 30, 2013, according to its new Annual Report 2012-2013, and about 45% of that revenue--$540.6 million--was provided by taxpayer-funded government health services grants.
In the same report, Planned Parenthood said that in the year that ended on Sept. 30, 2012 it did 327,166 abortions.
Clinics in Iowa, Arkansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Montana and New Hampshire also received $655,192 in grants from the Department of Health and Human Services to serve as Obamacare “navigators,” as CNSNews.com reported earlier.
Quote:Indeed, it is time to stop being surprised by the cruelty and barbarism of the abortion industry. Unless you are a liberal, or a pitiful, emasculated, “socially moderate” conservative who justifies your own moral cowardice by pontificating about the “gray areas” surrounding the wholesale butchery of infant humans, you really should not be shocked by anything these infanticide merchants do.
You know what abortion is, don’t you?
You know that Planned Parenthood might pretend it’s primary function is handing out condoms and mammogram referrals, but you know its business is abortion. You know that, by far, its primary source of revenue is abortion. That is, aside from the half a billion dollars in tax money it receives every year. You know that it rakes in ridiculous profits from abortion, and pays its executive hundreds of thousands of dollars a year from abortion, and earns its title as the nation’s largest and richest abortion provider by performing over 300,000 abortions annually.
Quote:Conservatives have been extremely ineffectual at combating the greatest evil of our time, abortion. Mostly, this is because they are afraid of the issue, or strangely unconcerned with it. But if the movement can do anything — if it even has a pulse — it ought to be able to use this horrific story to finally, once and for all, defund Planned Parenthood.
We should be outlawing abortion, conducting mass arrests of Planned Parenthood employees, and charging its executives and “doctors” with thousands of counts of first degree murder, but if we can’t do that, then at least we shouldn’t be giving these monsters our money. I know most Republicans won’t speak out eloquently against the practice of abortion, but for God’s sake, at a minimum every Republican politician in the country should be screaming from the rooftops that taxpayers should stop being forced to subsidize this criminal enterprise.
Quote:Planned Parenthood’s net revenue increased 5% to total of $1.21 billion in its organizational fiscal year ending on June 30, 2013, according to its new Annual Report 2012-2013, and about 45% of that revenue--$540.6 million--was provided by taxpayer-funded government health services grants.
In the same report, Planned Parenthood said that in the year that ended on Sept. 30, 2012 it did 327,166 abortions.
Clinics in Iowa, Arkansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Montana and New Hampshire also received $655,192 in grants from the Department of Health and Human Services to serve as Obamacare “navigators,” as CNSNews.com reported earlier.
I don't know what you expect liberals to touch with this. Plannned parenthood does provide abortions for those wishing to have them. What's to discuss? You clearly have different views on abortion than those who are pro-choice, and this isn't exactly the type of issue where you are going to be convinced otherwise.
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(07-14-2015 02:55 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:
(07-14-2015 02:52 PM)Hitch Wrote: I'm all for donating the "tissue" for research. Selling it? No.
Budget cuts have consequences.
Why should taxpayers fund Planned Parenthood?
Because they provide valuable services to the public either free or very cheaply to the end consumer. They don't get any funding for abortions. That's against the law.
(This post was last modified: 07-14-2015 03:34 PM by Redwingtom.)
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