(07-08-2015 11:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 11:15 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

Quote:John Martin on 929 dealing the truth

who did he steal it from?

Considering Austin gave him the exclusive yesterday (AN didn't speak to anyone else--including the coach) it seems Martin was actually pretty "in the know."

Maybe that accounts for Grant's butthurt "Austin should not be granted a release" and "Austin needs to take responsibility and stay the year then transfer" nonsense he's been spouting.

first time for everything then. So he isn't "in the know", he just knows Austin's side of the story.

(07-08-2015 11:19 AM)UofMark Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 11:13 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 11:08 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 10:57 AM)gusrob Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 10:03 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Why is errybody so hung up on the July stuff? Pastner booted off Woodson and Damien in August and no one felt bad. Kedren came in last August.

A supposed transfer request is different from a team dismissal.

Yes. I think it is easy to recognize that a transfer is not the same as a dismissal. However, the effect is the same in that a player (and in last August TWO) is leaving the program at an untenable time.

By the same token, Dom and Damien were pushedout at a bad time for them, as most schools weren't anticipating getting transfers two weeks before school starts and perhaps many schools of interest didn't have scholarships available that late in the game. Again, no one faulted Josh for booting those guy that late in the process, but some (ie Grant) are raking Austin for the timing.

Tell the cool story about Damien Wilson again please.

I'd like to hear that story also, especially the natural enhancement that happens each time the story is told, over and over.

You two should just pm each other and get down and dirty about the natural enhancement.

(07-08-2015 11:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 11:15 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

Quote:John Martin on 929 dealing the truth

who did he steal it from?

Considering Austin gave him the exclusive yesterday (AN didn't speak to anyone else--including the coach) it seems Martin was actually pretty "in the know."

Maybe that accounts for Grant's butthurt "Austin should not be granted a release" and "Austin needs to take responsibility and stay the year then transfer" nonsense he's been spouting.

Austin gave him an exclusive but Martin can't talk about it.

I think we all owe Martin a great deal of thanks.

(07-08-2015 11:19 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 11:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 11:15 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

Quote:John Martin on 929 dealing the truth

who did he steal it from?

Considering Austin gave him the exclusive yesterday (AN didn't speak to anyone else--including the coach) it seems Martin was actually pretty "in the know."

Maybe that accounts for Grant's butthurt "Austin should not be granted a release" and "Austin needs to take responsibility and stay the year then transfer" nonsense he's been spouting.

first time for everything then. So he isn't "in the know", he just knows Austin's side of the story.

Of course.

(07-08-2015 11:20 AM)tiger2000 Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 11:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 11:15 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

Quote:John Martin on 929 dealing the truth

who did he steal it from?

Considering Austin gave him the exclusive yesterday (AN didn't speak to anyone else--including the coach) it seems Martin was actually pretty "in the know."

Maybe that accounts for Grant's butthurt "Austin should not be granted a release" and "Austin needs to take responsibility and stay the year then transfer" nonsense he's been spouting.

Austin gave him an exclusive but Martin can't talk about it.

I think we all owe Martin a great deal of thanks.

for what? Austin's transfer simply effects the win total this year. It was always going to be Pastner's last one.

(07-08-2015 11:20 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 11:19 AM)UofMark Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 11:13 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 11:08 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 10:57 AM)gusrob Wrote:  A supposed transfer request is different from a team dismissal.

Yes. I think it is easy to recognize that a transfer is not the same as a dismissal. However, the effect is the same in that a player (and in last August TWO) is leaving the program at an untenable time.

By the same token, Dom and Damien were pushedout at a bad time for them, as most schools weren't anticipating getting transfers two weeks before school starts and perhaps many schools of interest didn't have scholarships available that late in the game. Again, no one faulted Josh for booting those guy that late in the process, but some (ie Grant) are raking Austin for the timing.

Tell the cool story about Damien Wilson again please.

I'd like to hear that story also, especially the natural enhancement that happens each time the story is told, over and over.

You two should just pm each other and get down and dirty about the natural enhancement.

I'm very sure we were just poking fun at you. I'm very sure that what you just mentioned never even entered our minds. Nothing wrong with you fantasizing about it I guess.

(07-08-2015 11:20 AM)tiger2000 Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 11:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 11:15 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

Quote:John Martin on 929 dealing the truth

who did he steal it from?

Considering Austin gave him the exclusive yesterday (AN didn't speak to anyone else--including the coach) it seems Martin was actually pretty "in the know."

Maybe that accounts for Grant's butthurt "Austin should not be granted a release" and "Austin needs to take responsibility and stay the year then transfer" nonsense he's been spouting.

Austin gave him an exclusive but Martin can't talk about it.

I think we all owe Martin a great deal of thanks.

What is the blood lust for "being the first" or "getting all the details." The advent of the paysites/premium crap has turned people into wanna be know it alls who think they have a right to know the dirty details because the drop $10.

My only comment was in response to the predictable comment that Martin "stole" some info (as if information about a player's life or college choice in proprietary) and that Austin actually talked to Martin.

I don't give a crap to know all that Martin might know, and for the most part--especially yesterday--Martin was very professional about disclosing info about the situation, unlike others who were quick to write about a girlfriend as the reason and then insert personal opinion as to why AN was in the wrong...

(07-08-2015 11:23 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 11:20 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 11:19 AM)UofMark Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 11:13 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 11:08 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Yes. I think it is easy to recognize that a transfer is not the same as a dismissal. However, the effect is the same in that a player (and in last August TWO) is leaving the program at an untenable time.

By the same token, Dom and Damien were pushedout at a bad time for them, as most schools weren't anticipating getting transfers two weeks before school starts and perhaps many schools of interest didn't have scholarships available that late in the game. Again, no one faulted Josh for booting those guy that late in the process, but some (ie Grant) are raking Austin for the timing.

Tell the cool story about Damien Wilson again please.

I'd like to hear that story also, especially the natural enhancement that happens each time the story is told, over and over.

You two should just pm each other and get down and dirty about the natural enhancement.

I'm very sure we were just poking fun at you. I'm very sure that what you just mentioned never even entered our minds. Nothing wrong with you fantasizing about it I guess.

True.

Did they mention anything about him possibly transferring to Auburn? Heard from a fairly big booster that Pastner thinks that's where he wants to go. ZERO idea if it's true.

(07-08-2015 11:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 11:15 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

Quote:John Martin on 929 dealing the truth

who did he steal it from?

Considering Austin gave him the exclusive yesterday (AN didn't speak to anyone else--including the coach) it seems Martin was actually pretty "in the know."

Maybe that accounts for Grant's butthurt "Austin should not be granted a release" and "Austin needs to take responsibility and stay the year then transfer" nonsense he's been spouting.

don't you get it? if roar rolls over, pastner pulls out.

So if it's not, according to the exclusive from Martin, about Pastner per se (and he's the head guy) then what is then?

Everyone likes to say the posters on here are in a bubble-so check out the comments on the Yahoo article

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/austin-nich...ncaab.html

(07-08-2015 12:02 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  So if it's not, according to the exclusive from Martin, about Pastner per se (and he's the head guy) then what is then?

If you don't think this is about Pastner ,and his running the program in the ground, then you believe in Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny.

(07-08-2015 12:11 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 12:02 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  So if it's not, according to the exclusive from Martin, about Pastner per se (and he's the head guy) then what is then?

If you don't think this is about Pastner ,and his running the program in the ground, then you believe in Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny.

I'm just going by what is said at this moment, I don't know what the heck is going on and neither do you 100%. Maybe it will be about the coach but nobody has gotten in front of a camera or is being quoted that is the fact.

(07-08-2015 12:17 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 12:11 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 12:02 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  So if it's not, according to the exclusive from Martin, about Pastner per se (and he's the head guy) then what is then?

If you don't think this is about Pastner ,and his running the program in the ground, then you believe in Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny.

I'm just going by what is said at this moment, I don't know what the heck is going on and neither do you 100%. Maybe it will be about the coach but nobody has gotten in front of a camera or is being quoted that is the fact.

Again, If we were successful at basketball and Austin was a potential first round pick this would not be happening .. Winning covers all or most problems --- losing or in this case not winning as much as expected, magnifies all problems.. Josh is responsible for winning / losing .... therefore it is about Josh ...

(07-08-2015 12:11 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 12:02 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  So if it's not, according to the exclusive from Martin, about Pastner per se (and he's the head guy) then what is then?

If you don't think this is about Pastner ,and his running the program in the ground, then you believe in Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny.

please don't insult us folk who believe in santa claus and the easter bunny. we know for damn sure this is about pastner running the program into the ground.

Awesomeness

http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketba...-bad-press

(07-08-2015 12:28 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  Awesomeness

http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketba...-bad-press

Did they use the terms "underacheiving". wow , there are a few on here who think we have done quite well.

(07-08-2015 12:33 PM)tigersroll Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 12:28 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  Awesomeness

http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketba...-bad-press

Did they use the terms "underacheiving". wow , there are a few on here who think we have done quite well.

Some would even have you believe that we have been just short of great...HAHAHAHA

"It is not all that uncommon in college sports for schools to deny athletes releases, but it is almost always a bad idea from a public relations standpoint, and for good reason -- using your power to keep a college kid from playing where they want is not a great thing to do. Kansas State was skewered last year for not releasing women's basketball player Leticia Romero. Wisconsin coach Bo Ryan was criticized for giving Jarrod Uthoff an insanely large transfer ban list. Appalachian State didn't release Devonte' Graham when he got an offer from Kansas."

So, that PUBLICITY hurt those programs....especially Bo Ryan at Wisconsin? I was not aware of any of it.