(07-08-2015 04:16 AM)wildbill4UM Wrote:  Robert Plant photographed next to the grave of Sonny Boy Williamson in Mississippi: (Twitter/RobertPlant)
Nice shirt...!

That photo is the coolest thing.

Timing was good too.

They always did have good timing though. But those massive sound shifts from left to right...don't know what you call them technically but it felt like the gods were landing lol

(07-08-2015 09:28 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  Jimmy Page stole the tune for "Stairway to Heaven" from Randy California and his group Spirit...who once toured with Led Zepplin.

Almost ever good tune you've ever heard was "stolen" from someone in the artists past ( or their favorite musical influences).

Ideas usually start with a basis from something else, and then grow from there.

As the other poster said, its about inspiration in most cases.

(07-08-2015 12:17 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Timing was good too.

They always did have good timing though. But those massive sound shifts from left to right...don't know what you call them technically but it felt like the gods were landing lol

Page is a fascinating guitar player.

One of the most important ever and he has the biggest library of historical hooks and riffs of anyone ever in rock.

Yet he had a very sloppy feel at times. A true master and enigma simultaneously.

(07-08-2015 09:39 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 09:33 AM)holyterror Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 09:28 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  Jimmy Page stole the tune for "Stairway to Heaven" from Randy California and his group Spirit...who once toured with Led Zepplin.

Hadn't heard that one. But Milton Berle said, "I know a good joke when I steal one."

Oh yeah, Randy has played it for years, I think there was a lawsuit but too sick to google it.

Hope you get to feeling better soon.

Led Zeppelin Loses First Round in ‘Stairway to Heaven’ Lawsuit
http://time.com/3528555/led-zeppelin-los...n-lawsuit/

(07-08-2015 10:22 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 09:01 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 05:18 AM)wildbill4UM Wrote:  Some may say Zep stole all their music from the old Mississippi blues men. That may be true, but I still love it. It is only fitting that Robert would "Bring It on Home..." with this photo.

They didn't steal it, they were inspired by it and when they tried to interpret it, it came out Zepplin!

This.

They interpreted the hell outta of it!! Bach, Vivaldi, Telemann and those guys would take the same theme and style that one of them 'thought up' and then put his own spin on it. It was considered high praise to have your theme repeated by another worthy composer. lol.

This is the same story from all of the British Invasion. They liked the same old blues that Elvis listened to, but when they did it, it came out totally different and then it evolved.

(07-08-2015 09:07 AM)Collegiate Black Man Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 09:01 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 05:18 AM)wildbill4UM Wrote:  Some may say Zep stole all their music from the old Mississippi blues men. That may be true, but I still love it. It is only fitting that Robert would "Bring It on Home..." with this photo.

They didn't steal it, they were inspired by it and when they tried to interpret it, it came out Zepplin!

That sounds like a poor imitation of delta blues to me.

That sounds like a 'put down' to me. Did you read the article about the prejudice and labeling they faced?
I would think you, of all people, might relate...

I saw Led Zeppelin at the MSC, he was good.

(07-08-2015 12:36 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 09:28 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  Jimmy Page stole the tune for "Stairway to Heaven" from Randy California and his group Spirit...who once toured with Led Zepplin.

Almost ever good tune you've ever heard was "stolen" from someone in the artists past ( or their favorite musical influences).

Ideas usually start with a basis from something else, and then grow from there.

As the other poster said, its about inspiration in most cases.

Nah it's a pretty blatant note for note rip off:

I'm sure he'll transfer before to much longer.

(07-08-2015 03:12 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  Nah it's a pretty blatant note for note rip off:

Nope

Its just an A minor walk down, which is a common progression.

All the changes, the bridge, chorus, per-chours, the crescendo, the solo, the outro are all radically different. Both songs being with a similar walkdown and feel, and that's pretty much were the similarities end.

If you are not a musician, then its best not to be claiming things are "note for note", because they almost never are and are definitely not in this case.

(07-08-2015 06:26 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 03:12 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  Nah it's a pretty blatant note for note rip off:

Nope

Its just an A minor walk down, which is a common progression.

All the changes, the bridge, chorus, per-chours, the crescendo, the solo, the outro are all radically different. Both songs being with a similar walkdown and feel, and that's pretty much were the similarities end.

If you are not a musician, then its best not to be claiming things are "note for note", because they almost never are and are definitely not in this case.

Is this like the "if you'd ever played organized sports" argument?

Yep, I was there at the MSC. Cops got mad because people were standing in the chairs.

(07-08-2015 07:50 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 06:26 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 03:12 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  Nah it's a pretty blatant note for note rip off:

Nope

Its just an A minor walk down, which is a common progression.

All the changes, the bridge, chorus, per-chours, the crescendo, the solo, the outro are all radically different. Both songs being with a similar walkdown and feel, and that's pretty much were the similarities end.

If you are not a musician, then its best not to be claiming things are "note for note", because they almost never are and are definitely not in this case.

Is this like the "if you'd ever played organized sports" argument?

smh

I'd suggest you just drop it at this point.

The two songs are not "note for note" as you claimed and only a few bars of the intro are even remotely similar.

Stairway to heaven has 6-7 incredibly distinct guitar parts, seamless changes, a legendary solo, legendary "layered" electric guitars and some wailing vocals and screaming peaks. It walks the entire gambit of emotions and rides "soft to medium to heavy" guitar changes.

The other song has none of those things. Its a 2 minute snooze fest with completely different changes, no vocals, no solo, no electrics and one single repeating A minor walkdown that sounds anything like S2H.

(07-08-2015 01:54 PM)KRB Wrote:  I saw Led Zeppelin at the MSC, he was good.

By the way, which one is Led?

(07-08-2015 01:54 PM)KRB Wrote:  I saw Led Zeppelin at the MSC, he was good.

Jethro Tull. ZZ Top, and that Lynyrd Skynyrd dude were pretty good too...

(07-08-2015 09:39 PM)wildbill4UM Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 01:54 PM)KRB Wrote:  I saw Led Zeppelin at the MSC, he was good.

Jethro Tull. ZZ Top, and that Lynyrd Skynyrd dude were pretty good too...

Don't forget about Hootie and his Blowfish!

(07-08-2015 09:30 PM)hsvtiger Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 01:54 PM)KRB Wrote:  I saw Led Zeppelin at the MSC, he was good.

By the way, which one is Led?

Led was the guitar player. At the first Jethro Tull concert I attended. These people from Dyersburg sat behind us. This kid asked me which one was Jethro? I told him the one next to Ellie Mae. He didn't get it.

(07-08-2015 11:27 AM)tiger2000 Wrote:  He has a house in nashville and was at a show at minglewood hall here in m-town a couple of years ago to check out the North MS Allstars. Not surprised to see him visiting the MS blues trail.

I was at one of those holiday NMAS shows at Minglewood a few years back and saw a dude that looked just like Robert Plant in the crowd. I pointed him out to my buddy and we both said "no way" and just assumed it was Michael Donahue or something.