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(07-08-2015 12:36 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  I'm a little guys lover, but most of the nation wouldn't give a darn if the G5 packed up and walked out. I could see the NCAA tournament struggling for a few seasons, until the P5 created a best of 5 series format and a basket-load of classic games resulted.

The basketball tournament would be irreparably harmed if that were to happen. The biggest draw by far of the NCAA tournament among the many causal fans who tune in are the brackets. The unknown of the smaller schools is a big driver in the popularity of the brackets. You take that away, taking away the David vs. Goliath aspect, I am not saying the tournament wouldn't still be popular, but it would not be as popular as it is now with the hoards of non-fans who now tune in to watch, and the luster would come off: it would be less valuable. Especially because if it were P5 only, it would essentially be a case where everybody gets to be in the tournament.
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(07-08-2015 12:36 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  I'm a little guys lover, but most of the nation wouldn't give a darn if the G5 packed up and walked out. I could see the NCAA tournament struggling for a few seasons, until the P5 created a best of 5 series format and a basket-load of classic games resulted.

The basketball tournament would be irreparably harmed if that were to happen. The biggest draw by far of the NCAA tournament among the many causal fans who tune in are the brackets. The unknown of the smaller schools is a big driver in the popularity of the brackets. You take that away, taking away the David vs. Goliath aspect, I am not saying the tournament wouldn't still be popular, but it would not be as popular as it is now with the hoards of non-fans who now tune in to watch, and the luster would come off: it would be less valuable. Especially because if it were P5 only, it would essentially be a case where everybody gets to be in the tournament.
No. They'd just find a new little guy, be it Iowa St. or Wake Forest or Northwestern. And brackets are basically about gambling, not about unknown schools.
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(07-08-2015 12:36 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  I'm a little guys lover, but most of the nation wouldn't give a darn if the G5 packed up and walked out. I could see the NCAA tournament struggling for a few seasons, until the P5 created a best of 5 series format and a basket-load of classic games resulted.

The basketball tournament would be irreparably harmed if that were to happen. The biggest draw by far of the NCAA tournament among the many causal fans who tune in are the brackets. The unknown of the smaller schools is a big driver in the popularity of the brackets. You take that away, taking away the David vs. Goliath aspect, I am not saying the tournament wouldn't still be popular, but it would not be as popular as it is now with the hoards of non-fans who now tune in to watch, and the luster would come off: it would be less valuable. Especially because if it were P5 only, it would essentially be a case where everybody gets to be in the tournament.

In that case, the tournament would be reduced to 8 or 16 teams and a format similar to the NBA would be launched.
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(07-08-2015 12:36 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  I'm a little guys lover, but most of the nation wouldn't give a darn if the G5 packed up and walked out. I could see the NCAA tournament struggling for a few seasons, until the P5 created a best of 5 series format and a basket-load of classic games resulted.


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(07-08-2015 12:55 PM)bullet Wrote:  No. They'd just find a new little guy, be it Iowa St. or Wake Forest or Northwestern. And brackets are basically about gambling, not about unknown schools.

You really believe that the David vs. Goliath issue has nothing to do with the popularity of the tournament, and the Cinderellas? I mean if that is your viewpoint I really don't know what to tell you.

(07-08-2015 12:56 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  In that case, the tournament would be reduced to 8 or 16 teams and a format similar to the NBA would be launched.

And an 8-16 team tournament would be far less valuable, as mentioned.
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(07-08-2015 12:36 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  I'm a little guys lover, but most of the nation wouldn't give a darn if the G5 packed up and walked out. I could see the NCAA tournament struggling for a few seasons, until the P5 created a best of 5 series format and a basket-load of classic games resulted.


That's what she said. 07-coffee3

I'm really set myself up for that.

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(07-08-2015 12:55 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-08-2015 12:52 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  
(07-08-2015 12:36 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  I'm a little guys lover, but most of the nation wouldn't give a darn if the G5 packed up and walked out. I could see the NCAA tournament struggling for a few seasons, until the P5 created a best of 5 series format and a basket-load of classic games resulted.

The basketball tournament would be irreparably harmed if that were to happen. The biggest draw by far of the NCAA tournament among the many causal fans who tune in are the brackets. The unknown of the smaller schools is a big driver in the popularity of the brackets. You take that away, taking away the David vs. Goliath aspect, I am not saying the tournament wouldn't still be popular, but it would not be as popular as it is now with the hoards of non-fans who now tune in to watch, and the luster would come off: it would be less valuable. Especially because if it were P5 only, it would essentially be a case where everybody gets to be in the tournament.
No. They'd just find a new little guy, be it Iowa St. or Wake Forest or Northwestern. And brackets are basically about gambling, not about unknown schools.

Everybody knows those aren't little guys. Plus it's particularly true for the NCAA tournament that with so many teams it adds a lot of fanbases. If you limit it to P5 there would be a lot fewer fans that would be interested, even more so than with football. It would be enough for me to stop watching college basketball altogether.
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(07-08-2015 12:56 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  In that case, the tournament would be reduced to 8 or 16 teams and a format similar to the NBA would be launched.

And an 8-16 team tournament would be far less valuable, as mentioned.
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I agree with that, but I can see the P5 accepting that as a necessary loss in exchange for the G5 departing.
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(07-08-2015 01:01 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Everybody knows those aren't little guys. Plus it's particularly true for the NCAA tournament that with so many teams it adds a lot of fanbases. If you limit it to P5 there would be a lot fewer fans that would be interested, even more so than with football. It would be enough for me to stop watching college basketball altogether.

It's not even fanbases you are adding. The setup of the tournament draws in million of people who are not fans of any particular team and in many cases do not even watch college basketball, other than the tournament (similar, but on a smaller scale, to the Super Bowl drawing in people who are not NFL fans or fans of a given team). It is a pure case of the total being greater than the sum of its parts.
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adcorbett Wrote:
(07-08-2015 12:56 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  In that case, the tournament would be reduced to 8 or 16 teams and a format similar to the NBA would be launched.

And an 8-16 team tournament would be far less valuable, as mentioned.
I agree with that, but I can see the P5 accepting that as a necessary loss in exchange for the G5 departing.

But there is no need to. Even if they separate, leave the tournament as is it. Too much money for the G5 to turn their noses up at them. Plus in basketball, they more or less need G5 teams to fill up home dates.
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(07-08-2015 01:01 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(07-08-2015 12:55 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-08-2015 12:52 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  
(07-08-2015 12:36 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  I'm a little guys lover, but most of the nation wouldn't give a darn if the G5 packed up and walked out. I could see the NCAA tournament struggling for a few seasons, until the P5 created a best of 5 series format and a basket-load of classic games resulted.

The basketball tournament would be irreparably harmed if that were to happen. The biggest draw by far of the NCAA tournament among the many causal fans who tune in are the brackets. The unknown of the smaller schools is a big driver in the popularity of the brackets. You take that away, taking away the David vs. Goliath aspect, I am not saying the tournament wouldn't still be popular, but it would not be as popular as it is now with the hoards of non-fans who now tune in to watch, and the luster would come off: it would be less valuable. Especially because if it were P5 only, it would essentially be a case where everybody gets to be in the tournament.
No. They'd just find a new little guy, be it Iowa St. or Wake Forest or Northwestern. And brackets are basically about gambling, not about unknown schools.

Everybody knows those aren't little guys. Plus it's particularly true for the NCAA tournament that with so many teams it adds a lot of fanbases. If you limit it to P5 there would be a lot fewer fans that would be interested, even more so than with football. It would be enough for me to stop watching college basketball altogether.

They would be if Presbyterian and Hampton were gone. The fan bases of the bottom 10 conferences are miniscule.
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(07-08-2015 12:36 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  
(07-07-2015 10:45 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(07-07-2015 09:34 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(07-07-2015 03:10 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(07-07-2015 12:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Didn't we already see that movie? It was called the CFA last time around. That said, the geographic leagues he described with a 11 game schedule of all divisional games (plus one FCS game) would pretty much put the final nail in the coffin of G5 football. The G5 would be finished.

Why would the G5 be finished? The G5 would be forced to behave as a unit finally instead of as remora to the P5 shark.

The G5 could make their own rules to benefit them and ignore how it affected the P5 or whether the P5 would like it.

We might actually get a G5 network.

The P5 could see how they like not having us around for Olympic sports.

The G5 would only be finished if they didn't act in unison to compete for a market niche.

Oh the G5 programs might still survive---but they would survive at a FCS like level.

You need to understand the American sports fan. They care about the championship of the highest level of the sport. They care about MLB---they could care less who wins a minor league baseball championship. They are glued to the TV for the NFL playoffs----they dont care about any arena league champ. They care about the NBA and the King James vs Curry finals battle----they dont care about the D league champ.

FCS has worked together and created a wonderful playoff system that many would love to see at the FBS level. Despite having a fantastic system, nobody cares about FCS. It generates no excitement in the college sports world and has dismal ratings. The college sports fan cares about FBS---and even the 2 G5 teams in the worst forgotten bowl game of the post season consistently generate higher ratings than the FCS playoff simply by virtue of being part of the "highest level" of college football. Whether they really have a shot or not---Toledo, Nevada, and Temple are all theoretically still chasing the same national championship as Alabama. As long as that is true---the G5 are still woth watching and following as part of that top level of football.

But if the system Chip Brown suggests were to become a reality, the G5 would become the new FCS---only worse. The 10 game conference schedule would virtually end G5 vs P5 games. The G5 would no longer be chasing the same championship as Alabama. The G5 would have their own separate kiddie table championship and would go back to being essentially D2 (or FCS). FCS would fall even further behind. G5 ticket revenue would fall as interest waned from the more casual fans. As fans lose interest playing at a less high profile level, donations would decrease----and TV revenue would fall of the edge of the table as there would be ZERO demand for this product on TV.

I wish this wasn't true, but the fact is---the FCS experience tells us that it is the way this would go. Its happened before. A number of those teams used to play at the same level as the FBS schools in the late 70's. It happened to schools like NcNeese who dropped to D1-AA thinking the playoff would allow their division capture the attention of sports fans. It didn't happen because Americans don't care who the 128th best college football team in the nation is. Similarly, Americans wont care who the 66th best football team in the nation is (and make no mistake, that's how a G5 playoff will be perceived). Trust me, this kind of split is the absolute worst thing that could happen to the G5.
The G5 and FCS exist under rules created to insure the well-being of the P5 monopoly.

Personally, i don't believe that the P5 will give up their say-so over the rest of us. Right now they exert control over our rules and finances and it costs them a mere pittance. Why would they give up that control and set us free?

If they are ever that dumb then we can make our own rules. They will have no say and no vote.

We don't have to beat them....just carve out more profit than the crumbs we are allowed now. Not that hard.

G5 would also need to make the break in ALL sports. Let the P5 play only themselves in ALL sports and see how it goes.

I'm a little guys lover, but most of the nation wouldn't give a darn if the G5 packed up and walked out. I could see the NCAA tournament struggling for a few seasons, until the P5 created a best of 5 series format and a basket-load of classic games resulted.

Most of the nation doesn't give a darn about college sports at all.

If that's what the P5 want to do then FCS/G5 will either need to fold, or fight.

Make it a clean break in all sports. Remake the rules to benefit us instead of to protect them. Create a G5 network. Challenge any monopolistic behavior in court.

What else are you going to do?
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I don't think Chip Brown knows what the hell he is talking about...
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(07-08-2015 12:55 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-08-2015 12:52 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  
(07-08-2015 12:36 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  I'm a little guys lover, but most of the nation wouldn't give a darn if the G5 packed up and walked out. I could see the NCAA tournament struggling for a few seasons, until the P5 created a best of 5 series format and a basket-load of classic games resulted.

The basketball tournament would be irreparably harmed if that were to happen. The biggest draw by far of the NCAA tournament among the many causal fans who tune in are the brackets. The unknown of the smaller schools is a big driver in the popularity of the brackets. You take that away, taking away the David vs. Goliath aspect, I am not saying the tournament wouldn't still be popular, but it would not be as popular as it is now with the hoards of non-fans who now tune in to watch, and the luster would come off: it would be less valuable. Especially because if it were P5 only, it would essentially be a case where everybody gets to be in the tournament.
No. They'd just find a new little guy, be it Iowa St. or Wake Forest or Northwestern. And brackets are basically about gambling, not about unknown schools.

The "P5 only basketball tournament" is a straw man. It's not a proposal that anyone with authority (h/t Bill Raftery) has ever put on the table. Separating from the NCAA means starting over with new rules; it doesn't mean no further athletic competition against non-P5 teams.

What would likely happen if the P5 separated from the NCAA is that the P5 would start its own 64-team tournament, with a tournament committee, and the committee would invite non-P5 teams to participate. Non-P5 teams like Gonzaga, Villanova, Georgetown, Wichita State, VCU, etc. would choose to play in that tournament instead of an NCAA tournament that doesn't include P5 teams. If the NCAA tried to stop them from playing in the new tournament, those basketball powers would sue the NCAA and win. Or perhaps those schools would also leave the NCAA, and the P5's new athletic organization would admit non-P5 members.
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(07-08-2015 01:49 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(07-08-2015 12:55 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-08-2015 12:52 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  
(07-08-2015 12:36 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  I'm a little guys lover, but most of the nation wouldn't give a darn if the G5 packed up and walked out. I could see the NCAA tournament struggling for a few seasons, until the P5 created a best of 5 series format and a basket-load of classic games resulted.

The basketball tournament would be irreparably harmed if that were to happen. The biggest draw by far of the NCAA tournament among the many causal fans who tune in are the brackets. The unknown of the smaller schools is a big driver in the popularity of the brackets. You take that away, taking away the David vs. Goliath aspect, I am not saying the tournament wouldn't still be popular, but it would not be as popular as it is now with the hoards of non-fans who now tune in to watch, and the luster would come off: it would be less valuable. Especially because if it were P5 only, it would essentially be a case where everybody gets to be in the tournament.
No. They'd just find a new little guy, be it Iowa St. or Wake Forest or Northwestern. And brackets are basically about gambling, not about unknown schools.

The "P5 only basketball tournament" is a straw man. It's not a proposal that anyone with authority (h/t Bill Raftery) has ever put on the table. Separating from the NCAA means starting over with new rules; it doesn't mean no further athletic competition against non-P5 teams.

What would likely happen if the P5 separated from the NCAA is that the P5 would start its own 64-team tournament, with a tournament committee, and the committee would invite non-P5 teams to participate. Non-P5 teams like Gonzaga, Villanova, Georgetown, Wichita State, VCU, etc. would choose to play in that tournament instead of an NCAA tournament that doesn't include P5 teams. If the NCAA tried to stop them from playing in the new tournament, those basketball powers would sue the NCAA and win. Or perhaps those schools would also leave the NCAA, and the P5's new athletic organization would admit non-P5 members.

Then in that case the G5 would be out of the college football business by suicide....and the popularity of G5 sports as a whole would free fall.

If the P5 want to seperate in football then the G5 need to be united and make it all sports.....or they die together.

Being led around by the nose in exchange for a basketball payday beating without football is not a workable G5 model.
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(07-08-2015 01:49 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(07-08-2015 12:55 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-08-2015 12:52 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  
(07-08-2015 12:36 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  I'm a little guys lover, but most of the nation wouldn't give a darn if the G5 packed up and walked out. I could see the NCAA tournament struggling for a few seasons, until the P5 created a best of 5 series format and a basket-load of classic games resulted.

The basketball tournament would be irreparably harmed if that were to happen. The biggest draw by far of the NCAA tournament among the many causal fans who tune in are the brackets. The unknown of the smaller schools is a big driver in the popularity of the brackets. You take that away, taking away the David vs. Goliath aspect, I am not saying the tournament wouldn't still be popular, but it would not be as popular as it is now with the hoards of non-fans who now tune in to watch, and the luster would come off: it would be less valuable. Especially because if it were P5 only, it would essentially be a case where everybody gets to be in the tournament.
No. They'd just find a new little guy, be it Iowa St. or Wake Forest or Northwestern. And brackets are basically about gambling, not about unknown schools.

The "P5 only basketball tournament" is a straw man. It's not a proposal that anyone with authority (h/t Bill Raftery) has ever put on the table. Separating from the NCAA means starting over with new rules; it doesn't mean no further athletic competition against non-P5 teams.

What would likely happen if the P5 separated from the NCAA is that the P5 would start its own 64-team tournament, with a tournament committee, and the committee would invite non-P5 teams to participate. Non-P5 teams like Gonzaga, Villanova, Georgetown, Wichita State, VCU, etc. would choose to play in that tournament instead of an NCAA tournament that doesn't include P5 teams. If the NCAA tried to stop them from playing in the new tournament, those basketball powers would sue the NCAA and win. Or perhaps those schools would also leave the NCAA, and the P5's new athletic organization would admit non-P5 members.

Noone is really proposing that, just making Division I a little more expensive to stop the massive expansion. The OP (in the Mendoza line thread) is suggesting a line, but in reality, they are doing it financially. And the OP isn't suggesting a 5 conference tourney.

There is potentially massive money involved. The NCAA funds itself with the Division I bb tourney. If the P5 left, it would be Division II and III that would really suffer. Their programs and championships are subsidized by the tourney.
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(07-08-2015 02:03 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-08-2015 01:49 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(07-08-2015 12:55 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-08-2015 12:52 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  
(07-08-2015 12:36 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  I'm a little guys lover, but most of the nation wouldn't give a darn if the G5 packed up and walked out. I could see the NCAA tournament struggling for a few seasons, until the P5 created a best of 5 series format and a basket-load of classic games resulted.

The basketball tournament would be irreparably harmed if that were to happen. The biggest draw by far of the NCAA tournament among the many causal fans who tune in are the brackets. The unknown of the smaller schools is a big driver in the popularity of the brackets. You take that away, taking away the David vs. Goliath aspect, I am not saying the tournament wouldn't still be popular, but it would not be as popular as it is now with the hoards of non-fans who now tune in to watch, and the luster would come off: it would be less valuable. Especially because if it were P5 only, it would essentially be a case where everybody gets to be in the tournament.
No. They'd just find a new little guy, be it Iowa St. or Wake Forest or Northwestern. And brackets are basically about gambling, not about unknown schools.

The "P5 only basketball tournament" is a straw man. It's not a proposal that anyone with authority (h/t Bill Raftery) has ever put on the table. Separating from the NCAA means starting over with new rules; it doesn't mean no further athletic competition against non-P5 teams.

What would likely happen if the P5 separated from the NCAA is that the P5 would start its own 64-team tournament, with a tournament committee, and the committee would invite non-P5 teams to participate. Non-P5 teams like Gonzaga, Villanova, Georgetown, Wichita State, VCU, etc. would choose to play in that tournament instead of an NCAA tournament that doesn't include P5 teams. If the NCAA tried to stop them from playing in the new tournament, those basketball powers would sue the NCAA and win. Or perhaps those schools would also leave the NCAA, and the P5's new athletic organization would admit non-P5 members.

Noone is really proposing that, just making Division I a little more expensive to stop the massive expansion. The OP is suggesting a line, but in reality, they are doing it financially. And the OP isn't suggesting a 5 conference tourney.

There is potentially massive money involved. The NCAA funds itself with the Division I bb tourney. If the P5 left, it would be Division II and III that would really suffer. Their programs and championships are subsidized by the tourney.

Those schools would have to pay annual dues to the NCAA in an amount sufficient to cover the costs of running the NCAA, including NCAA championships.

Every NCAA school should be paying dues to cover those costs anyway. Participants pay the costs of administering every other non-professional sports league from toddler T-ball and gymnastics through high school sports and adult rec sports. There's no "right" for colleges to have all those costs paid for out of the D-I March Madness money.
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RE: Chip Brown- The Next Big Move in Realignment?
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(07-08-2015 12:36 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  I'm a little guys lover, but most of the nation wouldn't give a darn if the G5 packed up and walked out. I could see the NCAA tournament struggling for a few seasons, until the P5 created a best of 5 series format and a basket-load of classic games resulted.

The basketball tournament would be irreparably harmed if that were to happen. The biggest draw by far of the NCAA tournament among the many causal fans who tune in are the brackets. The unknown of the smaller schools is a big driver in the popularity of the brackets. You take that away, taking away the David vs. Goliath aspect, I am not saying the tournament wouldn't still be popular, but it would not be as popular as it is now with the hoards of non-fans who now tune in to watch, and the luster would come off: it would be less valuable. Especially because if it were P5 only, it would essentially be a case where everybody gets to be in the tournament.

Related to my thread about eliminating the bottom 12 or so conferences...how about leaving 4-8 wild card slots open to the tournament from the newly created lower division? Keep the tourney at 64 teams (68 sucks)...those 4-8 wildcard teams play 5 and 6 seeds in the first round.
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RE: Chip Brown- The Next Big Move in Realignment?
(07-08-2015 02:13 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  [quote='adcorbett' pid='12182039' dateline='1436377945']
Related to my thread about eliminating the bottom 12 or so conferences...how about leaving 4-8 wild card slots open to the tournament from the newly created lower division? Keep the tourney at 64 teams (68 sucks)...those 4-8 wildcard teams play 5 and 6 seeds in the first round.

There are roughly 42-43 spots most years for the 121 teams in the top 10 conferences. That is more than one out of every three. That is MORE than enough. The tournament is fine as it is.
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RE: Chip Brown- The Next Big Move in Realignment?
(07-08-2015 02:46 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  
(07-08-2015 02:13 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  [quote='adcorbett' pid='12182039' dateline='1436377945']
Related to my thread about eliminating the bottom 12 or so conferences...how about leaving 4-8 wild card slots open to the tournament from the newly created lower division? Keep the tourney at 64 teams (68 sucks)...those 4-8 wildcard teams play 5 and 6 seeds in the first round.

There are roughly 42-43 spots most years for the 121 teams in the top 10 conferences. That is more than one out of every three. That is MORE than enough. The tournament is fine as it is.

My thread had us keeping the Top 20 conferences or so...(I've been swayed to increase it up from 12 from previous posts in the past)...so if you add 4-8 Wildcards from the bottom 12 or so leftout conferences I think that would still bring the David vs Goliath scenario. Lots of 5 and 6 seeds are Big Time name programs.
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