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http://m.newsok.com/analyzing-the-streng...92/?page=1

http://m.newsok.com/analyzing-the-streng...92/?page=2

MEMPHIS
Athletic budget: $50.3 million
Enrollment: 21,480
Market: Greater Memphis has a population of 1.34 million; counting the entire Mid-South region of Arkansas and Mississippi, the population is 2.4 million
Football stadium: Liberty Bowl Stadium opened in 1965 and has hosted the postseason game for half a century. Some 2011 renovations improved the off-campus stadium. Current capacity is 59,308.
Fan base: Small, but perhaps growing. Memphis averaged 33,851 fans last season, a huge increase from the days when the Tigers routinely drew less than 20,000 at the Liberty Bowl.
Television attraction: Not much. Memphis football does not move the needle.
Geography: Intriguing. A major-league city fairly close to Dallas, OKC and Kansas City, with a gateway to the South.
Academic standing: Not ranked among the top 200. Memphis is trying to change its image from a commuter school.
Football prowess: Weak. Justin Fuente coached Memphis to a 10-3 season and the American Conference title in 2014, its best year since 1938. Memphis had endured six straight losing seasons.
Other sports: Memphis is a national basketball brand. That never hurts.

Also worth noting the article mentioned 9 programs as possible expansion candidates.

Also calls out USF

Fan base: Falling fast. USF declared an average attendance of 52,553 in 2009. The next three years fell into the 40,000s, went to 34,702 in 2013 and 30,964 in 2014. Some reports have the actual attendance at far less.

Boise, Colorado State and UConn? I hope this is the anything is possible inclusive list.

The biggest drawback is the TV draw. In the end that's all it's about

(07-06-2015 12:23 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  The biggest drawback is the TV draw. In the end that's all it's about

But what would the draw be if it's Memphis-TCU or Memphis-OK

I know the attendance would skyrocket.

(07-06-2015 12:23 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  The biggest drawback is the TV draw. In the end that's all it's about

?

(07-06-2015 12:27 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(07-06-2015 12:23 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  The biggest drawback is the TV draw. In the end that's all it's about

But what would the draw be if it's Memphis-TCU or Memphis-OK

I know the attendance would skyrocket.

Unless both teams are ranked probably not much

(07-06-2015 10:36 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Boise, Colorado State and UConn? I hope this is the anything is possible inclusive list.

I never thought about Colorado State, that fits in the existing footprint vacated by Colorado.

They didn't provide a very positive outlook for any of the schools considered to be candidates. However, pretty fair.

One sad point, most fans can't see a program like MEMPHIS as legit until it is in a P5 Conference. It's one of those deals where you need prestige to get into P5 but only P5 are viewed as prestigious (by average fan in US).

(07-06-2015 12:40 PM)gusrob Wrote:  They didn't provide a very positive outlook for any of the schools considered to be candidates. However, pretty fair.

One sad point, most fans can't see a program like MEMPHIS as legit until it is in a P5 Conference. It's one of those deals where you need prestige to get into P5 but only P5 are viewed as prestigious (by average fan in US).

At least 8 wins, over 40k attendance and a great offense that will be super fun to watch will be an eye opener for everyone.

I just wish they would go with four: Houston; Memphis; Cincinnati and UCF and call it a day. Given P5 status and resources all four would do we'll.

(07-06-2015 12:23 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  The biggest drawback is the TV draw. In the end that's all it's about

None of the remaining realistic candidates move the TV drawership needle. The question is which of the candidates can become a TV draw in the right conference....the fact that we have a national brand in hoops is helpful in that regard.

(07-06-2015 01:07 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(07-06-2015 12:23 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  The biggest drawback is the TV draw. In the end that's all it's about

None of the remaining realistic candidates move the TV drawership needle. The question is which of the candidates can become a TV draw in the right conference....the fact that we have a national brand in hoops is helpful in that regard.

Good point. I'm not convinced that BYU "moves the needle" either, but some folks are convinced that they do.

(07-06-2015 02:13 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(07-06-2015 01:07 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(07-06-2015 12:23 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  The biggest drawback is the TV draw. In the end that's all it's about

None of the remaining realistic candidates move the TV drawership needle. The question is which of the candidates can become a TV draw in the right conference....the fact that we have a national brand in hoops is helpful in that regard.

Good point. I'm not convinced that BYU "moves the needle" either, but some folks are convinced that they do.

I think BYU is the closest. I know those directional schools in Florida don't.

(07-06-2015 02:13 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(07-06-2015 01:07 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(07-06-2015 12:23 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  The biggest drawback is the TV draw. In the end that's all it's about

None of the remaining realistic candidates move the TV drawership needle. The question is which of the candidates can become a TV draw in the right conference....the fact that we have a national brand in hoops is helpful in that regard.

Good point. I'm not convinced that BYU "moves the needle" either, but some folks are convinced that they do.

I don't understand that either. Never heard anyone say "Oh wow, BYU comes on tonight!" Maybe it happens more out west.....but I doubt it.

(07-06-2015 12:53 PM)RockyMTNTiger Wrote:  I just wish they would go with four: Houston; Memphis; Cincinnati and UCF and call it a day. Given P5 status and resources all four would do we'll.

Are they limited to two additions without a reduction in TV revenue (per contract) or can they expand to four without a reduction. I was under the impression, from Boren's statement, that it was two --- but it wasn't clear.

(07-06-2015 02:41 PM)gusrob Wrote:  

(07-06-2015 02:13 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(07-06-2015 01:07 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(07-06-2015 12:23 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  The biggest drawback is the TV draw. In the end that's all it's about

None of the remaining realistic candidates move the TV drawership needle. The question is which of the candidates can become a TV draw in the right conference....the fact that we have a national brand in hoops is helpful in that regard.

Good point. I'm not convinced that BYU "moves the needle" either, but some folks are convinced that they do.

I don't understand that either. Never heard anyone say "Oh wow, BYU comes on tonight!" Maybe it happens more out west.....but I doubt it.

Lots of Mormons everywhere.

(07-06-2015 12:53 PM)RockyMTNTiger Wrote:  I just wish they would go with four: Houston; Memphis; Cincinnati and UCF and call it a day. Given P5 status and resources all four would do we'll.

I agree. This is what we should hope for: http://www.foxsports.com/college-footbal...ams-070115

If it can be done without any member losing money, while ensuring long-term survival of the conference, it's a no-brainer for the Big 12. Most P5 conferences already have 14 members.