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HW: Take 2: Charging students may not be answer, but something has to be done to boos
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RE: HW: Take 2: Charging students may not be answer, but something has to be done to boos
The bigger name OOC opponents that Frazier put on the home schedule should help greatly. Get them in the stadium early in the season and get them hooked to come back more than just for Homecoming and the Nov MACtion game.

They have a tailgating lot but its marketed poorly as far as what I have not seen.
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RE: HW: Take 2: Charging students may not be answer, but something has to be done to boos
As pointed out by one of the two writers, charging the students is not a good idea. Funny the rest of the article talked a lot about concessions. Interestingly enough, if the goal is to get first time fans to keep coming back, the game time experience for the average fan is important. I know we've discussed in jest about hot dogs before, but if we run out of them before halftime we're shooting ourselves in the foot towards getting repeat customers.
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RE: HW: Take 2: Charging students may not be answer, but something has to be done to boos
(07-02-2015 08:34 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  The bigger name OOC opponents that Frazier put on the home schedule should help greatly. Get them in the stadium early in the season and get them hooked to come back more than just for Homecoming and the Nov MACtion game.

They have a tailgating lot but its marketed poorly as far as what I have not seen.
The students side for tailgating is always pretty full, the problem is too many people treat it like a party and bring a case to drink. Then when the game is starting they face the choice, leave my case out here and watch the game or continue getting plastered with my friends at home watching it on TV? Well we both know what most people are choosing now...
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RE: HW: Take 2: Charging students may not be answer, but something has to be done to boos
Since (presumably) neither we nor the athletic department are economists we don't really know whether charging the students for tickets is a good idea or not. I suggested to Jeff Compher a few years ago that he might want to ask the Economics professors at the university for ways to generate more perceived value in the tickets. Maybe they could assign that as a project to their grad students or something. Let's take advantage of the Economic brainpower we have right there on campus to address the problem. Compher of course declined my suggestion. Maybe it could be revisited now.
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RE: HW: Take 2: Charging students may not be answer, but something has to be done to boos
The students aren't the problem. Why do people continue to push this? Time to stop trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist and focus on getting the general public to come to the games.
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RE: HW: Take 2: Charging students may not be answer, but something has to be done to boos
(07-02-2015 10:02 AM)NIU1981 Wrote:  Since (presumably) neither we nor the athletic department are economists we don't really know whether charging the students for tickets is a good idea or not. I suggested to Jeff Compher a few years ago that he might want to ask the Economics professors at the university for ways to generate more perceived value in the tickets. Maybe they could assign that as a project to their grad students or something. Let's take advantage of the Economic brainpower we have right there on campus to address the problem. Compher of course declined my suggestion. Maybe it could be revisited now.

In the past I have suggested to black out the ESPN broadcasts of the NIU games in the Dorms. That was also immediately shot down.
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RE: HW: Take 2: Charging students may not be answer, but something has to be done to boos
(07-02-2015 10:10 AM)Who You Crappin? Wrote:  The students aren't the problem. Why do people continue to push this? Time to stop trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist and focus on getting the general public to come to the games.

Yas! Where are the damn townies? What else is there to do for them, the University is the only thing making their town relevant. Why not come out to games more, is it too expensive for them?
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RE: HW: Take 2: Charging students may not be answer, but something has to be done to boos
(07-02-2015 10:10 AM)Who You Crappin? Wrote:  The students aren't the problem. Why do people continue to push this? Time to stop trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist and focus on getting the general public to come to the games.

Totally agree.

Alums and Locals are the groups missing not the Students.



As for the rest of us I think not hosting a FCS team will help a bit. Hosting a P5 team will help even more.

After the East side is finished that will fix many of the food and bathroom problems that we have now (assuming the Student are moved to the South Bowl) and most West side people relocate to the East side, even if its just the bench seats.
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RE: HW: Take 2: Charging students may not be answer, but something has to be done to boos
(07-02-2015 10:10 AM)Who You Crappin? Wrote:  The students aren't the problem. Why do people continue to push this? Time to stop trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist and focus on getting the general public to come to the games.

Exactly. I think Frazier recognizes this as well.
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RE: HW: Take 2: Charging students may not be answer, but something has to be done to boos
(07-02-2015 10:10 AM)Who You Crappin? Wrote:  The students aren't the problem. Why do people continue to push this? Time to stop trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist and focus on getting the general public to come to the games.

They are definitely not but some people on this board seem to think so!
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RE: HW: Take 2: Charging students may not be answer, but something has to be done to boos
Bottom line it is the week day games. It is tough getting home with the kids at midnight if we go at all.
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RE: HW: Take 2: Charging students may not be answer, but something has to be done to boos
Charge the students? Can't do it. They pay those activity fees which guarantee them admission.
The only exception, I believe is MAC tournaments.
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RE: HW: Take 2: Charging students may not be answer, but something has to be done to boos
(07-02-2015 10:27 AM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 10:10 AM)Who You Crappin? Wrote:  The students aren't the problem. Why do people continue to push this? Time to stop trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist and focus on getting the general public to come to the games.

They are definitely not but some people on this board seem to think so!

100% agree. I have to say I have never seen a D1 stadium that dedicates one entire half of the stadium to students. It sometimes seems low because all 8,000-10,000 seats on the "student side" is not full...but that is a big area to fill.
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RE: HW: Take 2: Charging students may not be answer, but something has to be done to boos
(07-02-2015 11:34 AM)JB04 Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 10:27 AM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 10:10 AM)Who You Crappin? Wrote:  The students aren't the problem. Why do people continue to push this? Time to stop trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist and focus on getting the general public to come to the games.

They are definitely not but some people on this board seem to think so!

100% agree. I have to say I have never seen a D1 stadium that dedicates one entire half of the stadium to students. It sometimes seems low because all 8,000-10,000 seats on the "student side" is not full...but that is a big area to fill.

NIU does not dedicate one half of the stadium to students. The east side also has General Admission Seating for anyone. It has always been a combination of students and General Admission fans.
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RE: HW: Take 2: Charging students may not be answer, but something has to be done to boos
(07-02-2015 11:44 AM)Doggone Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 11:34 AM)JB04 Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 10:27 AM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 10:10 AM)Who You Crappin? Wrote:  The students aren't the problem. Why do people continue to push this? Time to stop trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist and focus on getting the general public to come to the games.

They are definitely not but some people on this board seem to think so!

100% agree. I have to say I have never seen a D1 stadium that dedicates one entire half of the stadium to students. It sometimes seems low because all 8,000-10,000 seats on the "student side" is not full...but that is a big area to fill.

NIU does not dedicate one half of the stadium to students. The east side also has General Admission Seating for anyone. It has always been a combination of students and General Admission fans.

Yup around 6k of the East side capacity is reserved for the Students.

In 2013 someone in athletics said there have never been more than 5k students to show up at a game and yes that includes 2003 and 2004.
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RE: HW: Take 2: Charging students may not be answer, but something has to be done to boos
(07-02-2015 12:17 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 11:44 AM)Doggone Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 11:34 AM)JB04 Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 10:27 AM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 10:10 AM)Who You Crappin? Wrote:  The students aren't the problem. Why do people continue to push this? Time to stop trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist and focus on getting the general public to come to the games.

They are definitely not but some people on this board seem to think so!

100% agree. I have to say I have never seen a D1 stadium that dedicates one entire half of the stadium to students. It sometimes seems low because all 8,000-10,000 seats on the "student side" is not full...but that is a big area to fill.

NIU does not dedicate one half of the stadium to students. The east side also has General Admission Seating for anyone. It has always been a combination of students and General Admission fans.

Yup around 6k of the East side capacity is reserved for the Students.

In 2013 someone in athletics said there have never been more than 5k students to show up at a game and yes that includes 2003 and 2004.

So the students could be part of the problem. How many typically show up? Either way I agree that making them pay would just hurt attendance. And if we just packed the west side with locals and alums we'd have 15K or more every game.
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RE: HW: Take 2: Charging students may not be answer, but something has to be done to boos
(07-02-2015 12:17 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 11:44 AM)Doggone Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 11:34 AM)JB04 Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 10:27 AM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 10:10 AM)Who You Crappin? Wrote:  The students aren't the problem. Why do people continue to push this? Time to stop trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist and focus on getting the general public to come to the games.

They are definitely not but some people on this board seem to think so!

100% agree. I have to say I have never seen a D1 stadium that dedicates one entire half of the stadium to students. It sometimes seems low because all 8,000-10,000 seats on the "student side" is not full...but that is a big area to fill.

NIU does not dedicate one half of the stadium to students. The east side also has General Admission Seating for anyone. It has always been a combination of students and General Admission fans.

Yup around 6k of the East side capacity is reserved for the Students.

In 2013 someone in athletics said there have never been more than 5k students to show up at a game and yes that includes 2003 and 2004.
I find this hard to believe.
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RE: HW: Take 2: Charging students may not be answer, but something has to be done to boos
(07-02-2015 01:04 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 12:17 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 11:44 AM)Doggone Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 11:34 AM)JB04 Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 10:27 AM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  They are definitely not but some people on this board seem to think so!

100% agree. I have to say I have never seen a D1 stadium that dedicates one entire half of the stadium to students. It sometimes seems low because all 8,000-10,000 seats on the "student side" is not full...but that is a big area to fill.

NIU does not dedicate one half of the stadium to students. The east side also has General Admission Seating for anyone. It has always been a combination of students and General Admission fans.

Yup around 6k of the East side capacity is reserved for the Students.

In 2013 someone in athletics said there have never been more than 5k students to show up at a game and yes that includes 2003 and 2004.

So the students could be part of the problem. How many typically show up? Either way I agree that making them pay would just hurt attendance. And if we just packed the west side with locals and alums we'd have 15K or more every game.

2010 had 4106 student average attendance. To never have broken 5k means that the game by game average has to be +/-500 to that.

See pg 5
http://www.niu.edu/vision2020/groups/Stu...ort_v9.pdf
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RE: HW: Take 2: Charging students may not be answer, but something has to be done to boos
(07-02-2015 01:30 PM)7 Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 12:17 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 11:44 AM)Doggone Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 11:34 AM)JB04 Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 10:27 AM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  They are definitely not but some people on this board seem to think so!

100% agree. I have to say I have never seen a D1 stadium that dedicates one entire half of the stadium to students. It sometimes seems low because all 8,000-10,000 seats on the "student side" is not full...but that is a big area to fill.

NIU does not dedicate one half of the stadium to students. The east side also has General Admission Seating for anyone. It has always been a combination of students and General Admission fans.

Yup around 6k of the East side capacity is reserved for the Students.

In 2013 someone in athletics said there have never been more than 5k students to show up at a game and yes that includes 2003 and 2004.
I find this hard to believe.
If you want to twitter search it (I know you will be better at it than I) Morris White was the one that tweeted that NIU has never had over 5k students at the game. He put out a twitter challenge to the students either in 2014 or 2013 to break 5k for the first time.



HOWEVER


http://northernstar.info/campus/football...a6d5b.html

"As of 5 p.m. Tuesday, 5,133 of the 6,000 student tickets originally available had been picked up. In addition to the 867 tickets left, the athletics department will release another 500 tickets today."
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