miko33
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NASCAR Fans: Would you boycott over the CSA battle flag?
Saw a news report this morning that NASCAR is taking measures to ensure no flags make it into the stands. It appears that they are trying to scrub it from the sport completely. Given the makeup of the fan base, would the fans boycott the sport over the flag? IMHO, if you cherish the flag, this may be a great place to take a stand.
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07-02-2015 06:33 AM |
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RE: NASCAR Fans: Would you boycott over the CSA battle flag?
I don't know about a boycott but their Southern base will continue to decrease. The more they've tried to expand/ diversify NASCAR, the less interested their base has become.
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07-02-2015 06:36 AM |
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miko33
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RE: NASCAR Fans: Would you boycott over the CSA battle flag?
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RE: NASCAR Fans: Would you boycott over the CSA battle flag?
(07-02-2015 06:36 AM)blunderbuss Wrote: I don't know about a boycott but their Southern base will continue to decrease. The more they've tried to expand/ diversify NASCAR, the less interested their base has become.
An additional factor is cost. I used to go annually to the Southern 500 in Darlington. We would go in on Saturday am and watch both races from the infield. It cost $10 per vehicle and $50 per person. Now it is $200 per vehicle in a marked spot and $100 for both races. NASCAR a while back decided to cull out the poor white trash by raising the fees. It worked. The makeup of the infield and grandstands has changed dramatically in the past decade.
As for the boycott. Good luck. I expect to see a sea of battle flags in Daytona.
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RE: NASCAR Fans: Would you boycott over the CSA battle flag?
(07-02-2015 06:33 AM)miko33 Wrote: Saw a news report this morning that NASCAR is taking measures to ensure no flags make it into the stands. It appears that they are trying to scrub it from the sport completely. Given the makeup of the fan base, would the fans boycott the sport over the flag? IMHO, if you cherish the flag, this may be a great place to take a stand.
No they aren't. They are simply offering to exchange anyone's Confederate flag for an American flag. They aren't telling people they can't bring/wear Confederate flag apparel or fly a Confederate flag. There aren't many Confederate flags at NASCAR races to begin with... but this is going to backfire in a huge way. Whereas there were maybe 3 flying at Daytona last year, there will likely be 20x's that many this year.
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RE: NASCAR Fans: Would you boycott over the CSA battle flag?
The idea of "diversifying" NASCAR is pretty funny. I am pretty sure NASCAR is already hitting their fan sweet spot.
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07-02-2015 08:09 AM |
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RE: NASCAR Fans: Would you boycott over the CSA battle flag?
(07-02-2015 07:47 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote: (07-02-2015 06:33 AM)miko33 Wrote: Saw a news report this morning that NASCAR is taking measures to ensure no flags make it into the stands. It appears that they are trying to scrub it from the sport completely. Given the makeup of the fan base, would the fans boycott the sport over the flag? IMHO, if you cherish the flag, this may be a great place to take a stand.
No they aren't. They are simply offering to exchange anyone's Confederate flag for an American flag. They aren't telling people they can't bring/wear Confederate flag apparel or fly a Confederate flag. There aren't many Confederate flags at NASCAR races to begin with... but this is going to backfire in a huge way. Whereas there were maybe 3 flying at Daytona last year, there will likely be 20x's that many this year.
True but the ones that are there get full TV camera exposure.
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RE: NASCAR Fans: Would you boycott over the CSA battle flag?
This is ridiculous.
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07-02-2015 08:12 AM |
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Re: RE: NASCAR Fans: Would you boycott over the CSA battle flag?
(07-02-2015 06:33 AM)miko33 Wrote: Saw a news report this morning that NASCAR is taking measures to ensure no flags make it into the stands. It appears that they are trying to scrub it from the sport completely. Given the makeup of the fan base, would the fans boycott the sport over the flag? IMHO, if you cherish the flag, this may be a great place to take a stand.
If they outright ban any CSA flag, taking away our freedom of speech and expression, I will stop watching NASCAR all together. NASCAR wants to forget where they came from, problem with that is that NASCAR was founded by rebels of the man. Moonshine runners of the hills and Kentucky marijuana growers.
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RE: NASCAR Fans: Would you boycott over the CSA battle flag?
(07-02-2015 07:47 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote: (07-02-2015 06:33 AM)miko33 Wrote: Saw a news report this morning that NASCAR is taking measures to ensure no flags make it into the stands. It appears that they are trying to scrub it from the sport completely. Given the makeup of the fan base, would the fans boycott the sport over the flag? IMHO, if you cherish the flag, this may be a great place to take a stand.
No they aren't. They are simply offering to exchange anyone's Confederate flag for an American flag. They aren't telling people they can't bring/wear Confederate flag apparel or fly a Confederate flag. There aren't many Confederate flags at NASCAR races to begin with... but this is going to backfire in a huge way. Whereas there were maybe 3 flying at Daytona last year, there will likely be 20x's that many this year.
Honestly...If I was going to the race and had a battle flag lying around...Id exchange it. It is time that relic be left to museums.
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RE: NASCAR Fans: Would you boycott over the CSA battle flag?
(07-02-2015 08:12 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote: This is ridiculous.
It actually would be cool if lots of folks did voluntarily exchange their flags. I doubt that is going to happen though.
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RE: NASCAR Fans: Would you boycott over the CSA battle flag?
I've been to one NASCAR race in my life and that was 20+ years ago. So, no, if I did want to attend a race a flag in the infield would not make a difference in my decision to attend.
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07-02-2015 08:32 AM |
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RE: NASCAR Fans: Would you boycott over the CSA battle flag?
To me, NASCAR is possibly where a stand for the flag can be taken. Maybe other businesses in the south if there is a large backlash over people trying to ban the flag. I'm curious if there are enough people that care at all, or if it's a sizable minority or if there is an actual majority who can make a difference. Boycotting the events themselves is part of it, but tuning out on TV and making that known could be highly effective.
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RE: NASCAR Fans: Would you boycott over the CSA battle flag?
(07-02-2015 09:05 AM)miko33 Wrote: To me, NASCAR is possibly where a stand for the flag can be taken. Maybe other businesses in the south if there is a large backlash over people trying to ban the flag. I'm curious if there are enough people that care at all, or if it's a sizable minority or if there is an actual majority who can make a difference. Boycotting the events themselves is part of it, but tuning out on TV and making that known could be highly effective.
Well, NASCAR won't ban the flag at its events. It will only go as far as to "encourage" fans not to, and even incentivize it. But NASCAR would be barking up the wrong tree and willfully doing irreparable damage to itself if it were to ever BAN the flag.
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RE: NASCAR Fans: Would you boycott over the CSA battle flag?
(07-02-2015 09:35 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote: It will only go as far as to "encourage" fans not to, and even incentivize it.
I would imagine a "Trade your Stars and Bars for a NASCAR flag" promotion would go over pretty well with most.....
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Re: NASCAR Fans: Would you boycott over the CSA battle flag?
The can do something asinine like ole miss did and ban the sticks the flags are attached to
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07-02-2015 10:06 AM |
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RE: NASCAR Fans: Would you boycott over the CSA battle flag?
NASCAR started dying out with restrictor plates and all makes using the same body templates.
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RE: NASCAR Fans: Would you boycott over the CSA battle flag?
Dumb idea, if they want to hand out American Flags or sell em at the event.
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RE: NASCAR Fans: Would you boycott over the CSA battle flag?
(07-02-2015 10:33 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:
Dumb idea, if they want to hand out American Flags or sell em at the event.
does Anyone drink that crap anymore ?
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07-02-2015 10:39 AM |
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RE: NASCAR Fans: Would you boycott over the CSA battle flag?
(07-02-2015 10:39 AM)CardFan1 Wrote: (07-02-2015 10:33 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:
Dumb idea, if they want to hand out American Flags or sell em at the event.
does Anyone drink that crap anymore ?
My wife makes a nice homemade sangria and has Perrier as the base..... It's surprisingly cheap at the grocery store versus what a restaurant would charges for eau gazéifiée
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