have been making waves but are they making friends with the people that matter in conference realignment.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...cincinnati

Quote:"What I said was that there was going to be a lot of changes, and it’s going to be hard for them to ever get to the national championship in the Playoff unless they have a [conference] championship game or go undefeated, and that's hard to do."

Quote:"Next few years, couple things could happen," he continued. "People could take different teams in and boost their numbers up, or they could consolidate and go from five power conferences to four. I don't know what they're going to do, but you have to have an even number. You can't have five. You've got to do something."

Quote:"Oh, I don't know. Well, I think they would. But will that happen? The problem is that the Big 12's TV package is not that great. They're not even near [some other power conferences in TV revenue]. So they have a tough time making a decision [on expanding]. Now if it was better, they would've already made a decision. Would we be in? I don't know."

Tuberville is borderline insane.


Dated article from Feb 2015
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com...to-big-12/

He might need to fact check a little

Quote:“Be a big boy, step up and put this school that has almost 50,000 students and is so high-profile, has so many of the top schools in the United States, it’s a tier one university — we belong in the Big 12. We’re a big, major school with an unbelievable history in athletics and academia.”

Actually 40k students and not Tier 1. Yes, UH is a big major school that ranks near the bottom of Texas University football attendance.

Why do people put a microphone in front of these people when they misrepresent the facts?

No offense to the fans that follow these Universities but please have someone tell the truth.

You Tech fans have the worst case of butt hurt I have ever seen.

Actually Tuberville does. He not only demonstrates he's an idiot, but if Cincinnati really is a candidate, he did no good for their cause.

(07-01-2015 06:38 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  have been making waves but are they making friends with the people that matter in conference realignment.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...cincinnati

Quote:"What I said was that there was going to be a lot of changes, and it’s going to be hard for them to ever get to the national championship in the Playoff unless they have a [conference] championship game or go undefeated, and that's hard to do."

Quote:"Next few years, couple things could happen," he continued. "People could take different teams in and boost their numbers up, or they could consolidate and go from five power conferences to four. I don't know what they're going to do, but you have to have an even number. You can't have five. You've got to do something."

Quote:"Oh, I don't know. Well, I think they would. But will that happen? The problem is that the Big 12's TV package is not that great. They're not even near [some other power conferences in TV revenue]. So they have a tough time making a decision [on expanding]. Now if it was better, they would've already made a decision. Would we be in? I don't know."

Tuberville is borderline insane.


Dated article from Feb 2015
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com...to-big-12/

He might need to fact check a little

Quote:“Be a big boy, step up and put this school that has almost 50,000 students and is so high-profile, has so many of the top schools in the United States, it’s a tier one university — we belong in the Big 12. We’re a big, major school with an unbelievable history in athletics and academia.”

Actually 40k students and not Tier 1. Yes, UH is a big major school that ranks near the bottom of Texas University football attendance.

Why do people put a microphone in front of these people when they misrepresent the facts?

No offense to the fans that follow these Universities but please have someone tell the truth.

We sure can't count on you to do it, can we?

(07-01-2015 06:38 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  have been making waves but are they making friends with the people that matter in conference realignment.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...cincinnati

Quote:"What I said was that there was going to be a lot of changes, and it’s going to be hard for them to ever get to the national championship in the Playoff unless they have a [conference] championship game or go undefeated, and that's hard to do."

Quote:"Next few years, couple things could happen," he continued. "People could take different teams in and boost their numbers up, or they could consolidate and go from five power conferences to four. I don't know what they're going to do, but you have to have an even number. You can't have five. You've got to do something."

Quote:"Oh, I don't know. Well, I think they would. But will that happen? The problem is that the Big 12's TV package is not that great. They're not even near [some other power conferences in TV revenue]. So they have a tough time making a decision [on expanding]. Now if it was better, they would've already made a decision. Would we be in? I don't know."

Tuberville is borderline insane.


Dated article from Feb 2015
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com...to-big-12/

He might need to fact check a little

Quote:“Be a big boy, step up and put this school that has almost 50,000 students and is so high-profile, has so many of the top schools in the United States, it’s a tier one university — we belong in the Big 12. We’re a big, major school with an unbelievable history in athletics and academia.”

Actually 40k students and not Tier 1. Yes, UH is a big major school that ranks near the bottom of Texas University football attendance.

Why do people put a microphone in front of these people when they misrepresent the facts?

No offense to the fans that follow these Universities but please have someone tell the truth.

Actually, Houston is ranked as a top university in the country and labeled as a tier 1. Not at the tops like the IVYs and all that.Cincinnati is also rank as well along with UAB, UCF, USF, North Dakota State and so forth. Ranking by regions also helps if you are ranked in the top 20.

(07-01-2015 07:18 PM)bullet Wrote:  Actually Tuberville does. He not only demonstrates he's an idiot, but if Cincinnati really is a candidate, he did no good for their cause.

And their President, in addition to sending Hallmark cards to the ACC presidents, posts stuff like this all the time:

Santa J. Ono ‏@PrezOno · Jun 30

We live & we learn to take
One step at a time
It's gonna happen when it's
Supposed to happen & we
Find the reasons why
One step at a time



Santa J. Ono
@PrezOno
28th President of the University of Cincinnati

(07-01-2015 07:30 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  

(07-01-2015 07:18 PM)bullet Wrote:  Actually Tuberville does. He not only demonstrates he's an idiot, but if Cincinnati really is a candidate, he did no good for their cause.

And their President, in addition to sending Hallmark cards to the ACC presidents, posts stuff like this all the time:

Santa J. Ono ‏@PrezOno · Jun 30

We live & we learn to take
One step at a time
It's gonna happen when it's
Supposed to happen & we
Find the reasons why
One step at a time



Santa J. Ono
@PrezOno
28th President of the University of Cincinnati

What does that have to do with anything?

You realize those are song lyrics don't you?

(07-01-2015 07:00 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  You Tech fans have the worst case of butt hurt I have ever seen.

I'm not butt hurt at all. Tuberville was a poor fit in Lubbock and found a better home in Cincy. By all accounts, UC is happy with him.

That said, he looks like a moron commenting on Big 12 revenue. Nothing more and nothing less.

(07-01-2015 07:23 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  

(07-01-2015 06:38 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  have been making waves but are they making friends with the people that matter in conference realignment.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...cincinnati

Quote:"What I said was that there was going to be a lot of changes, and it’s going to be hard for them to ever get to the national championship in the Playoff unless they have a [conference] championship game or go undefeated, and that's hard to do."

Quote:"Next few years, couple things could happen," he continued. "People could take different teams in and boost their numbers up, or they could consolidate and go from five power conferences to four. I don't know what they're going to do, but you have to have an even number. You can't have five. You've got to do something."

Quote:"Oh, I don't know. Well, I think they would. But will that happen? The problem is that the Big 12's TV package is not that great. They're not even near [some other power conferences in TV revenue]. So they have a tough time making a decision [on expanding]. Now if it was better, they would've already made a decision. Would we be in? I don't know."

Tuberville is borderline insane.


Dated article from Feb 2015
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com...to-big-12/

He might need to fact check a little

Quote:“Be a big boy, step up and put this school that has almost 50,000 students and is so high-profile, has so many of the top schools in the United States, it’s a tier one university — we belong in the Big 12. We’re a big, major school with an unbelievable history in athletics and academia.”

Actually 40k students and not Tier 1. Yes, UH is a big major school that ranks near the bottom of Texas University football attendance.

Why do people put a microphone in front of these people when they misrepresent the facts?

No offense to the fans that follow these Universities but please have someone tell the truth.

We sure can't count on you to do it, can we?

I thought it was pertinent with the ongoing realignment discussions.

(07-01-2015 07:25 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(07-01-2015 06:38 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  have been making waves but are they making friends with the people that matter in conference realignment.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...cincinnati

Quote:"What I said was that there was going to be a lot of changes, and it’s going to be hard for them to ever get to the national championship in the Playoff unless they have a [conference] championship game or go undefeated, and that's hard to do."

Quote:"Next few years, couple things could happen," he continued. "People could take different teams in and boost their numbers up, or they could consolidate and go from five power conferences to four. I don't know what they're going to do, but you have to have an even number. You can't have five. You've got to do something."

Quote:"Oh, I don't know. Well, I think they would. But will that happen? The problem is that the Big 12's TV package is not that great. They're not even near [some other power conferences in TV revenue]. So they have a tough time making a decision [on expanding]. Now if it was better, they would've already made a decision. Would we be in? I don't know."

Tuberville is borderline insane.


Dated article from Feb 2015
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com...to-big-12/

He might need to fact check a little

Quote:“Be a big boy, step up and put this school that has almost 50,000 students and is so high-profile, has so many of the top schools in the United States, it’s a tier one university — we belong in the Big 12. We’re a big, major school with an unbelievable history in athletics and academia.”

Actually 40k students and not Tier 1. Yes, UH is a big major school that ranks near the bottom of Texas University football attendance.

Why do people put a microphone in front of these people when they misrepresent the facts?

No offense to the fans that follow these Universities but please have someone tell the truth.

Actually, Houston is ranked as a top university in the country and labeled as a tier 1. Not at the tops like the IVYs and all that.Cincinnati is also rank as well along with UAB, UCF, USF, North Dakota State and so forth. Ranking by regions also helps if you are ranked in the top 20.

I have schooled you enough but what metric is UH Tier 1?

AAU
USNWR

Please don't be naive enough to include Carnegie as they don't recognize Tiers. Research has little to do with academic quality, graduation rates etc.

(07-01-2015 07:39 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(07-01-2015 07:23 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  

(07-01-2015 06:38 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  have been making waves but are they making friends with the people that matter in conference realignment.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...cincinnati

Quote:"What I said was that there was going to be a lot of changes, and it’s going to be hard for them to ever get to the national championship in the Playoff unless they have a [conference] championship game or go undefeated, and that's hard to do."

Quote:"Next few years, couple things could happen," he continued. "People could take different teams in and boost their numbers up, or they could consolidate and go from five power conferences to four. I don't know what they're going to do, but you have to have an even number. You can't have five. You've got to do something."

Quote:"Oh, I don't know. Well, I think they would. But will that happen? The problem is that the Big 12's TV package is not that great. They're not even near [some other power conferences in TV revenue]. So they have a tough time making a decision [on expanding]. Now if it was better, they would've already made a decision. Would we be in? I don't know."

Tuberville is borderline insane.


Dated article from Feb 2015
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com...to-big-12/

He might need to fact check a little

Quote:“Be a big boy, step up and put this school that has almost 50,000 students and is so high-profile, has so many of the top schools in the United States, it’s a tier one university — we belong in the Big 12. We’re a big, major school with an unbelievable history in athletics and academia.”

Actually 40k students and not Tier 1. Yes, UH is a big major school that ranks near the bottom of Texas University football attendance.

Why do people put a microphone in front of these people when they misrepresent the facts?

No offense to the fans that follow these Universities but please have someone tell the truth.

We sure can't count on you to do it, can we?

I thought it was pertinent with the ongoing realignment discussions.

Im thinking you must not remember some of the things Leach used to say. Tubervilles comments pretty much echo a number of sports writers comments. Its not like he didnt see things up close and personal when the Big-12 almost collapsed....twice. He knows the situation there and what the Big-12 champs are up against making the playoff.

As for Tilman....he's a billionaire. Guys that are worth 2.5 billion dollars are going say whatever they want to say. He seems to be on his way to becoming the UH version of Okie Lites T Boone Pickens. He does far more good for us than harm---lol...so, he can say whatever the hell he likes as far as Im concerned.

This is going to come down to whats said behind closed doors between the AD's and presidents.

(07-01-2015 07:44 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(07-01-2015 07:25 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(07-01-2015 06:38 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  have been making waves but are they making friends with the people that matter in conference realignment.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...cincinnati

Quote:"What I said was that there was going to be a lot of changes, and it’s going to be hard for them to ever get to the national championship in the Playoff unless they have a [conference] championship game or go undefeated, and that's hard to do."

Quote:"Next few years, couple things could happen," he continued. "People could take different teams in and boost their numbers up, or they could consolidate and go from five power conferences to four. I don't know what they're going to do, but you have to have an even number. You can't have five. You've got to do something."

Quote:"Oh, I don't know. Well, I think they would. But will that happen? The problem is that the Big 12's TV package is not that great. They're not even near [some other power conferences in TV revenue]. So they have a tough time making a decision [on expanding]. Now if it was better, they would've already made a decision. Would we be in? I don't know."

Tuberville is borderline insane.


Dated article from Feb 2015
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com...to-big-12/

He might need to fact check a little

Quote:“Be a big boy, step up and put this school that has almost 50,000 students and is so high-profile, has so many of the top schools in the United States, it’s a tier one university — we belong in the Big 12. We’re a big, major school with an unbelievable history in athletics and academia.”

Actually 40k students and not Tier 1. Yes, UH is a big major school that ranks near the bottom of Texas University football attendance.

Why do people put a microphone in front of these people when they misrepresent the facts?

No offense to the fans that follow these Universities but please have someone tell the truth.

Actually, Houston is ranked as a top university in the country and labeled as a tier 1. Not at the tops like the IVYs and all that.Cincinnati is also rank as well along with UAB, UCF, USF, North Dakota State and so forth. Ranking by regions also helps if you are ranked in the top 20.

I have schooled you enough but what metric is UH Tier 1?

AAU
USNWR

Please don't be naive enough to include Carnegie as they don't recognize Tiers. Research has little to do with academic quality, graduation rates etc.

They put them into classes. The idea that Carnegie doesn't recognize tiers is just sematics. If Carnigie doesn't want their list used as a "rating" then why classify universities as Very High or High. Why classify them at all? Just publish the raw data. The fact is, they classify the schools and by doing so they have in fact created tiers. Its like publishing standings and then saying that wins and loses don't mean anything. If wins and loses don't mean anything---then don't keep score and don't publish standings.

(07-01-2015 07:18 PM)bullet Wrote:  Actually Tuberville does. He not only demonstrates he's an idiot, but if Cincinnati really is a candidate, he did no good for their cause.

And you know this because, Oh yea because your a poster on the internet

I've talked way too much about this... at the end of the day if the Big 12 takes two teams and they can't find a way to get another P5 school, they are making a huge mistake if they aren't BYU and Cincinnati.

If it was 2 years from now and UCF continues to dominate, throw them in the mix. If UConn made geographic sense, they might work, but barring some crazy seismologic activity it's not going to happen... but I think BYU adds instant value and Cincinnati becomes even better in a power conference.

More people who missed their naps today.

(07-01-2015 08:02 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-01-2015 07:39 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(07-01-2015 07:23 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  

(07-01-2015 06:38 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  have been making waves but are they making friends with the people that matter in conference realignment.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...cincinnati

Quote:"What I said was that there was going to be a lot of changes, and it’s going to be hard for them to ever get to the national championship in the Playoff unless they have a [conference] championship game or go undefeated, and that's hard to do."

Quote:"Next few years, couple things could happen," he continued. "People could take different teams in and boost their numbers up, or they could consolidate and go from five power conferences to four. I don't know what they're going to do, but you have to have an even number. You can't have five. You've got to do something."

Quote:"Oh, I don't know. Well, I think they would. But will that happen? The problem is that the Big 12's TV package is not that great. They're not even near [some other power conferences in TV revenue]. So they have a tough time making a decision [on expanding]. Now if it was better, they would've already made a decision. Would we be in? I don't know."

Tuberville is borderline insane.


Dated article from Feb 2015
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com...to-big-12/

He might need to fact check a little

Quote:“Be a big boy, step up and put this school that has almost 50,000 students and is so high-profile, has so many of the top schools in the United States, it’s a tier one university — we belong in the Big 12. We’re a big, major school with an unbelievable history in athletics and academia.”

Actually 40k students and not Tier 1. Yes, UH is a big major school that ranks near the bottom of Texas University football attendance.

Why do people put a microphone in front of these people when they misrepresent the facts?

No offense to the fans that follow these Universities but please have someone tell the truth.

We sure can't count on you to do it, can we?

I thought it was pertinent with the ongoing realignment discussions.

Im thinking you must not remember some of the things Leach used to say. Tubervilles comments pretty much echo a number of sports writers comments. Its not like he didnt see things up close and personal when the Big-12 almost collapsed....twice. He knows the situation there and what the Big-12 champs are up against making the playoff.

As for Tilman....he's a billionaire. Guys that are worth 2.5 billion dollars are going say whatever they want to say. He seems to be on his way to becoming the UH version of Okie Lites T Boone Pickens. He does far more good for us than harm---lol...so, he can say whatever the hell he likes as far as Im concerned.

This is going to come down to whats said behind closed doors between the AD's and presidents.

Leach was a blast with his off the wall comments. He has a law degree and decided to be a football coach. The Lubbock TV weather spot and the comment he made to a TV personality walking off Kyle Field after a W over the Aggies was epic---- "sometimes a pirate can beat a soldier".

Tuberville isn't Leach. Tuberville sat on his hands while the Chancellor and AD did the talking for Texas Tech in 2010.

Tilman is an idiot and hasn't made any friends. Despite the media outcry to include UH, no one in the Big 12 is helping you. Boren is simply executing his exit strategy. OU playing UH at NRG stadium should not be construed as Boren helping UH.

OU is looking out for OU while building their brand in Houston. Nothing more than that.

(07-01-2015 08:10 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  They put them into classes. The idea that Carnegie doesn't recognize tiers is just sematics. If Carnigie doesn't want their list used as a "rating" then why classify universities as Very High or High. Why classify them at all? Just publish the raw data. The fact is, they classify the schools and by doing so they have in fact created tiers. Its like publishing standings and then saying that wins and loses don't mean anything. If wins and loses don't mean anything---then don't keep score and don't publish standings.

Call it what you want but Khator shot her mouth off and is paying for the consequences. No one in academia views UH as a "Tier 1" University.

Lots of work to do in USNWR and graduation rates.

You can't deny the advancement Houston has made the last 25 years. I would not consider it when I was looking but would now

(07-01-2015 08:26 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(07-01-2015 08:10 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  They put them into classes. The idea that Carnegie doesn't recognize tiers is just sematics. If Carnigie doesn't want their list used as a "rating" then why classify universities as Very High or High. Why classify them at all? Just publish the raw data. The fact is, they classify the schools and by doing so they have in fact created tiers. Its like publishing standings and then saying that wins and loses don't mean anything. If wins and loses don't mean anything---then don't keep score and don't publish standings.

Call it what you want but Khator shot her mouth off and is paying for the consequences. No one in academia views UH as a "Tier 1" University.

Lots of work to do in USNWR and graduation rates.

They just view us as VHRU, something TT has yet to achieve. That is all.

(07-01-2015 08:15 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(07-01-2015 07:18 PM)bullet Wrote:  Actually Tuberville does. He not only demonstrates he's an idiot, but if Cincinnati really is a candidate, he did no good for their cause.

And you know this because, Oh yea because your a poster on the internet

He is totally off on his TV revenue facts. He says it in public-therefore-idiot.
There are Big 12 expansion rumors so he bad mouths the Big 12 who conceivably could invite his school-therefore-idiot.

There's never been any doubt about some bad blood between Tuberville and Texas Tech.