Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
Basketball Mendoza Line
Author Message
TexanMark Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 25,637
Joined: Jul 2003
Reputation: 1326
I Root For: Syracuse
Location: St. Augustine, FL
Post: #1
Basketball Mendoza Line
My goal would be to see 80-90 Power Football Teams and an extra 120-140 or so among the other hoops schools that do not play high level Football. Above the line you stay in the NCAA Championships and collect the $$$. Below that you merge with D-2 or stay in the FCS

I know we have a few exceptions like Belmont, FGCU, etc...that should change conferences and remain...but this is my first crack at my Mendoza Line for who can qualify for the NCAA Championship.

P5 Conferences
AAC
Big East
MWC (NM St?)
A-10 (Siena, Iona?)
Big West
Colonial (take Belmont and FGCU?)
CUSA (take UAB and Murray St?)
MAC
Mo Valley(ND St?)
Sun Belt (SFA, Sam Houston St?)
West Coast

The Ivy League, Horizon and the America East are three I wonder about...I think they should probably be above the line...they are basically like the Colonial and Sun Belt.

Thoughts?

Last year's league standings
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/standings
(This post was last modified: 07-01-2015 09:34 AM by TexanMark.)
07-01-2015 09:18 AM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


bullet Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 66,301
Joined: Apr 2012
Reputation: 3285
I Root For: Texas, UK, UGA
Location:
Post: #2
RE: Basketball Mendoza Line
(07-01-2015 09:18 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  My goal would be to see 80-90 Power Football Teams and an extra 120-140 or so among the other hoops schools that do not play high level Football. Above the line you stay in the NCAA Championships and collect the $$$. Below that you merge with D-2 or stay in the FCS

I know we have a few exceptions like Belmont, FGCU, etc...that should change conferences and remain...but this is my first crack at my Mendoza Line for who can qualify for the NCAA Championship.

P5 Conferences
AAC
Big East
MWC (NM St?)
A-10 (Siena, Iona?)
Big West
Colonial (take Belmont and FGCU?)
CUSA (take UAB and Murray St?)
MAC
Mo Valley(ND St?)
Sun Belt (SFA, Sam Houston St?)
West Coast

The Ivy League, Horizon and the America East are three I wonder about...I think they should probably be above the line...they are basically like the Colonial and Sun Belt.

Thoughts?

Last year's league standings
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/standings

Not sure the Horizon is still up there. They used to be, but they had to expand and weakened themselves.

The America East has big state schools, but awful basketball. But I don't think you can shut out New England.
07-01-2015 09:54 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Hank Schrader Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,933
Joined: Mar 2013
Reputation: 59
I Root For: UConn
Location: Hartford
Post: #3
RE: Basketball Mendoza Line
(07-01-2015 09:54 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-01-2015 09:18 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  My goal would be to see 80-90 Power Football Teams and an extra 120-140 or so among the other hoops schools that do not play high level Football. Above the line you stay in the NCAA Championships and collect the $$$. Below that you merge with D-2 or stay in the FCS

I know we have a few exceptions like Belmont, FGCU, etc...that should change conferences and remain...but this is my first crack at my Mendoza Line for who can qualify for the NCAA Championship.

P5 Conferences
AAC
Big East
MWC (NM St?)
A-10 (Siena, Iona?)
Big West
Colonial (take Belmont and FGCU?)
CUSA (take UAB and Murray St?)
MAC
Mo Valley(ND St?)
Sun Belt (SFA, Sam Houston St?)
West Coast

The Ivy League, Horizon and the America East are three I wonder about...I think they should probably be above the line...they are basically like the Colonial and Sun Belt.

Thoughts?

Last year's league standings
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/standings

Not sure the Horizon is still up there. They used to be, but they had to expand and weakened themselves.

The America East has big state schools, but awful basketball. But I don't think you can shut out New England.

Shutting out the American East may have been a calculated effor by Mark to never have the Orange play Vermont again 05-stirthepot

(I had to - sorry Mark! 04-cheers)
07-01-2015 10:01 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
TexanMark Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 25,637
Joined: Jul 2003
Reputation: 1326
I Root For: Syracuse
Location: St. Augustine, FL
Post: #4
RE: Basketball Mendoza Line
(07-01-2015 10:01 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  
(07-01-2015 09:54 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-01-2015 09:18 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  My goal would be to see 80-90 Power Football Teams and an extra 120-140 or so among the other hoops schools that do not play high level Football. Above the line you stay in the NCAA Championships and collect the $$$. Below that you merge with D-2 or stay in the FCS

I know we have a few exceptions like Belmont, FGCU, etc...that should change conferences and remain...but this is my first crack at my Mendoza Line for who can qualify for the NCAA Championship.

P5 Conferences
AAC
Big East
MWC (NM St?)
A-10 (Siena, Iona?)
Big West
Colonial (take Belmont and FGCU?)
CUSA (take UAB and Murray St?)
MAC
Mo Valley(ND St?)
Sun Belt (SFA, Sam Houston St?)
West Coast

The Ivy League, Horizon and the America East are three I wonder about...I think they should probably be above the line...they are basically like the Colonial and Sun Belt.

Thoughts?

Last year's league standings
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/standings

Not sure the Horizon is still up there. They used to be, but they had to expand and weakened themselves.

The America East has big state schools, but awful basketball. But I don't think you can shut out New England.

Shutting out the American East may have been a calculated effor by Mark to never have the Orange play Vermont again 05-stirthepot

(I had to - sorry Mark! 04-cheers)

They must pay for their sins! 03-lmfao
07-01-2015 10:10 AM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
TexanMark Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 25,637
Joined: Jul 2003
Reputation: 1326
I Root For: Syracuse
Location: St. Augustine, FL
Post: #5
RE: Basketball Mendoza Line
So should there be a conference attendance average?

I'm thinking 3k average sounds about right.
07-01-2015 10:12 AM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
cuseroc Offline
Super Moderator
*

Posts: 15,262
Joined: Mar 2005
Reputation: 546
I Root For: Syracuse
Location: Rochester/Sarasota

Donators
Post: #6
RE: Basketball Mendoza Line
(07-01-2015 10:01 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  
(07-01-2015 09:54 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-01-2015 09:18 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  My goal would be to see 80-90 Power Football Teams and an extra 120-140 or so among the other hoops schools that do not play high level Football. Above the line you stay in the NCAA Championships and collect the $$$. Below that you merge with D-2 or stay in the FCS

I know we have a few exceptions like Belmont, FGCU, etc...that should change conferences and remain...but this is my first crack at my Mendoza Line for who can qualify for the NCAA Championship.

P5 Conferences
AAC
Big East
MWC (NM St?)
A-10 (Siena, Iona?)
Big West
Colonial (take Belmont and FGCU?)
CUSA (take UAB and Murray St?)
MAC
Mo Valley(ND St?)
Sun Belt (SFA, Sam Houston St?)
West Coast

The Ivy League, Horizon and the America East are three I wonder about...I think they should probably be above the line...they are basically like the Colonial and Sun Belt.

Thoughts?

Last year's league standings
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/standings

Not sure the Horizon is still up there. They used to be, but they had to expand and weakened themselves.

The America East has big state schools, but awful basketball. But I don't think you can shut out New England.

Shutting out the American East may have been a calculated effor by Mark to never have the Orange play Vermont again 05-stirthepot

(I had to - sorry Mark! 04-cheers)

Dude, I had recently managed to successfully delete that game from memory, until now. That was a low blow. 05-mafia 05-mafia 05-mafia
07-01-2015 10:29 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


TexanMark Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 25,637
Joined: Jul 2003
Reputation: 1326
I Root For: Syracuse
Location: St. Augustine, FL
Post: #7
RE: Basketball Mendoza Line
(07-01-2015 10:29 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(07-01-2015 10:01 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  
(07-01-2015 09:54 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-01-2015 09:18 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  My goal would be to see 80-90 Power Football Teams and an extra 120-140 or so among the other hoops schools that do not play high level Football. Above the line you stay in the NCAA Championships and collect the $$$. Below that you merge with D-2 or stay in the FCS

I know we have a few exceptions like Belmont, FGCU, etc...that should change conferences and remain...but this is my first crack at my Mendoza Line for who can qualify for the NCAA Championship.

P5 Conferences
AAC
Big East
MWC (NM St?)
A-10 (Siena, Iona?)
Big West
Colonial (take Belmont and FGCU?)
CUSA (take UAB and Murray St?)
MAC
Mo Valley(ND St?)
Sun Belt (SFA, Sam Houston St?)
West Coast

The Ivy League, Horizon and the America East are three I wonder about...I think they should probably be above the line...they are basically like the Colonial and Sun Belt.

Thoughts?

Last year's league standings
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/standings

Not sure the Horizon is still up there. They used to be, but they had to expand and weakened themselves.

The America East has big state schools, but awful basketball. But I don't think you can shut out New England.

Shutting out the American East may have been a calculated effor by Mark to never have the Orange play Vermont again 05-stirthepot

(I had to - sorry Mark! 04-cheers)

Dude, I had recently managed to successfully delete that game from memory, until now. That was a low blow. 05-mafia 05-mafia 05-mafia

He is a UConn fan...that is their mission in life...03-lmfao

Someone has to keep us honest.
07-01-2015 10:41 AM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Tom in Lazybrook Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 22,299
Joined: Jul 2011
Reputation: 446
I Root For: So Alabama, GWU
Location: Houston
Post: #8
RE: Basketball Mendoza Line
I think with FCOA, this will largely sort itself out
07-01-2015 11:06 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
dbackjon Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 12,010
Joined: May 2010
Reputation: 657
I Root For: NAU/Illini
Location:
Post: #9
RE: Basketball Mendoza Line
(07-01-2015 09:18 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  My goal would be to see 80-90 Power Football Teams and an extra 120-140 or so among the other hoops schools that do not play high level Football. Above the line you stay in the NCAA Championships and collect the $$$. Below that you merge with D-2 or stay in the FCS

I know we have a few exceptions like Belmont, FGCU, etc...that should change conferences and remain...but this is my first crack at my Mendoza Line for who can qualify for the NCAA Championship.

P5 Conferences
AAC
Big East
MWC (NM St?)
A-10 (Siena, Iona?)
Big West
Colonial (take Belmont and FGCU?)
CUSA (take UAB and Murray St?)
MAC
Mo Valley(ND St?)
Sun Belt (SFA, Sam Houston St?)
West Coast

The Ivy League, Horizon and the America East are three I wonder about...I think they should probably be above the line...they are basically like the Colonial and Sun Belt.

Thoughts?

Last year's league standings
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/standings


Thoughts? - dumb idea
(This post was last modified: 07-01-2015 11:27 AM by dbackjon.)
07-01-2015 11:26 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
TexanMark Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 25,637
Joined: Jul 2003
Reputation: 1326
I Root For: Syracuse
Location: St. Augustine, FL
Post: #10
RE: Basketball Mendoza Line
Why a dumb idea?
07-01-2015 01:55 PM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
uconnwhaler Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 883
Joined: Nov 2013
Reputation: 47
I Root For: uconn
Location: Hartford, CT
Post: #11
RE: Basketball Mendoza Line
(07-01-2015 09:18 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  My goal would be to see 80-90 Power Football Teams and an extra 120-140 or so among the other hoops schools that do not play high level Football. Above the line you stay in the NCAA Championships and collect the $$$. Below that you merge with D-2 or stay in the FCS

I know we have a few exceptions like Belmont, FGCU, etc...that should change conferences and remain...but this is my first crack at my Mendoza Line for who can qualify for the NCAA Championship.

P5 Conferences
AAC
Big East
MWC (NM St?)
A-10 (Siena, Iona?)
Big West
Colonial (take Belmont and FGCU?)
CUSA (take UAB and Murray St?)
MAC
Mo Valley(ND St?)
Sun Belt (SFA, Sam Houston St?)
West Coast

The Ivy League, Horizon and the America East are three I wonder about...I think they should probably be above the line...they are basically like the Colonial and Sun Belt.

Thoughts?

Last year's league standings
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/standings

I like the overall concept, for football and basketball.

I would put Ivy League above, well at least Harvard and Yale (who beat us last year 03-banghead) and sometimes Princeton.
07-01-2015 02:55 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


dbackjon Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 12,010
Joined: May 2010
Reputation: 657
I Root For: NAU/Illini
Location:
Post: #12
RE: Basketball Mendoza Line
(07-01-2015 01:55 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Why a dumb idea?


You are leaving out way too many schools that are either flagship state schools, have good basketball programs, etc.


There is ZERO reason to limit DI basketball artificially. The tourney rakes in billions, the cinderellas are what the focus of the first weekend is on, and the tourney would NOT be better having the 9th place Big 10 team versus the MEAC champ (who has one several 15 s 2 games.
07-01-2015 03:34 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
72Tiger Offline
Up your nose with a rubber hose
*

Posts: 13,651
Joined: Feb 2004
Reputation: 288
I Root For: Larry
Location:

DonatorsDonatorsDonators
Post: #13
RE: Basketball Mendoza Line
Why do this? Win games on the court/field and move on.
07-01-2015 06:28 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
TexanMark Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 25,637
Joined: Jul 2003
Reputation: 1326
I Root For: Syracuse
Location: St. Augustine, FL
Post: #14
RE: Basketball Mendoza Line
(07-01-2015 03:34 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(07-01-2015 01:55 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Why a dumb idea?


You are leaving out way too many schools that are either flagship state schools, have good basketball programs, etc.


There is ZERO reason to limit DI basketball artificially. The tourney rakes in billions, the cinderellas are what the focus of the first weekend is on, and the tourney would NOT be better having the 9th place Big 10 team versus the MEAC champ (who has one several 15 s 2 games.

Disagree...show me these state flagships and good basketball programs left out? Just like football...u can't slap a D-1 label on your school with no fan base. Tell me how Stetson and Utah Valley is anywhere close to UK, UNC or MSU?
07-01-2015 09:52 PM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
omniorange Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 10,144
Joined: Apr 2004
Reputation: 251
I Root For: Syracuse
Location:

Donators
Post: #15
RE: Basketball Mendoza Line
(07-01-2015 09:18 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  My goal would be to see 80-90 Power Football Teams and an extra 120-140 or so among the other hoops schools that do not play high level Football. Above the line you stay in the NCAA Championships and collect the $$$. Below that you merge with D-2 or stay in the FCS

I know we have a few exceptions like Belmont, FGCU, etc...that should change conferences and remain...but this is my first crack at my Mendoza Line for who can qualify for the NCAA Championship.

P5 Conferences
AAC
Big East
MWC (NM St?)
A-10 (Siena, Iona?)
Big West
Colonial (take Belmont and FGCU?)
CUSA (take UAB and Murray St?)
MAC
Mo Valley(ND St?)
Sun Belt (SFA, Sam Houston St?)
West Coast

The Ivy League, Horizon and the America East are three I wonder about...I think they should probably be above the line...they are basically like the Colonial and Sun Belt.

Thoughts?

Last year's league standings
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/standings

This is an overall excellent concept. I think the Ivy League would have to remain above the Mendoza line myself.

Not interested in working out the mechanics myself, but I like the thinking here. Might need to finish with 20 conferences and 44 at-large bids. As a result, we could see three or four teams from some conferences now who only get 1 or 2 simply because the P5, BE, A10 eat up most of the current at-large bids.

Cheers,
Neil
07-01-2015 10:06 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
georgia_tech_swagger Offline
Res publica non dominetur
*

Posts: 51,393
Joined: Feb 2002
Reputation: 2017
I Root For: GT, USCU, FU, WYO
Location: Upstate, SC

SkunkworksFolding@NCAAbbsNCAAbbs LUGCrappies
Post: #16
RE: Basketball Mendoza Line
I think you'd do well to include the SoCon. Maybe not as presently constituted... but within the footprint of the southern ACC you could form a legit conference out of teams from the Big South and SoCon.
07-02-2015 12:10 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


perimeterpost Offline
All American
*

Posts: 4,977
Joined: Nov 2010
Reputation: 132
I Root For: OHIO
Location:
Post: #17
RE: Basketball Mendoza Line
Yeah, I'm sick and tired of all these schools having an opportunity to compete and succeed. College athletics isn't about competition, its about stacking the deck in favor of a chosen few schools while taking a big dump on everybody else. It's time we ended this totally fair and inclusive tournament format because it MAKES ME SO ANGRY 01-lauramac2 when I think about the marginal amount of money that goes to those undeserving, mooching 16 seeds. Screw them!
07-02-2015 02:46 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
uccheese Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,888
Joined: Oct 2011
Reputation: 20
I Root For: Bearcats
Location:
Post: #18
RE: Basketball Mendoza Line
(07-01-2015 06:28 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  Why do this? Win games on the court/field and move on.

Exactly. Small conferences take nothing away from the tournament and add excitement. The last thing we need is another 17-15 team from a better league.
07-02-2015 08:35 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Wolfman Offline
All American
*

Posts: 4,459
Joined: Nov 2011
Reputation: 181
I Root For: The Cartel
Location: Raleigh, NC
Post: #19
RE: Basketball Mendoza Line
230 schools is too many for one division. Even in BB.
07-02-2015 12:45 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
johnbragg Offline
Five Minute Google Expert
*

Posts: 16,359
Joined: Dec 2011
Reputation: 996
I Root For: St Johns
Location:
Post: #20
RE: Basketball Mendoza Line
(07-01-2015 01:55 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Why a dumb idea?

You're either cutting out too many (this marginal school/conference should be in! And so should that one! etc) or not enough (FBS + Big East + A-20 or so--or just FBS, or just P5).

If you're cutting out Mississippi Valley State and ST Francis for being small-timers who don't belong in Division I, it's hard to say why you're not cutting out Central Arkansas and Siena, and if you're cutting out Central Arkansas and Siena, it's hard to say why you're not cutting out Southern Illinois and Fordham. etc etc etc.

"Whenever a socialistic scheme is explained in a lecture, each man thinks of what he will do with his share of his richer neighbor's greater wealth, forgetting that a poorer neighbor is thinking the same thoughts of his wealth."
07-02-2015 01:35 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2024 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2024 MyBB Group.