Here's his blog. Something to read and reflect upon.

Mr. Moore's opinion is heartfelt and respectful, but still mistaken.

Everyones entitled to their opinion of the flag. Including me. Stop trying to take mine away.

Here's a thought:

If you don't want to fly it, don't. If you do, do so.

I ain't going to ***** about my neighbor if he doesn't fly one. **** him if he can't extend the same courtesy if I do.

My neighbor flies one. We discussed it once. I told him, "War's over." We don't discuss his flag any more.

Your real name isn't "Steve" by any chance?

I think people are trying to make this a right answer vs wrong answer thing. Some people think the flag is symbol of racism, some think it's simply pride in the region. Neither answer is right or wrong, because it really lies with the individual.

Now, I do believe that a bit of awareness must be shown when considering anything, including displaying the flag.

(06-28-2015 02:31 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I think people are trying to make this a right answer vs wrong answer thing. Some people think the flag is symbol of racism, some think it's simply pride in the region. Neither answer is right or wrong, because it really lies with the individual.

Now, I do believe that a bit of awareness must be shown when considering anything, including displaying the flag.

I agree but unfortunately we live in a world of absolutes these days. If one sees the flag as heritage, etc..., one is simply a racist.

(06-28-2015 02:31 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I think people are trying to make this a right answer vs wrong answer thing. Some people think the flag is symbol of racism, some think it's simply pride in the region. Neither answer is right or wrong, because it really lies with the individual.

Now, I do believe that a bit of awareness must be shown when considering anything, including displaying the flag.

To me I always think of the south when I see a confederate flag. I consider myself a southerner. When I think southern I think small towns, friendly people a kindness toward neighbors not typically found in the more metropolitan north that's also my own personal experience. All that said I don't display or own a Rebel flag because it's simply not worth the headache of trying to explain why I would. Yes I'm proud to call myself southern and I think Charleston, SC is a good example why. Neighbors came to support those who experienced great loss, and those going through difficult times welcomed them as family.

I'm a southerner. Don't have one of those flags. Don't want one.

Never had one either. Not a shirt, Dukes car, sticker, nothing. Maybe on a few of my albums (them big ol vinyl things before CD's ITunes).

May have to get one because of all the insanity though.

The battle flag means soldiers' sacrifice to me. It is the soldier's flag not the government flag of the CSA. Those would be the 1st(Stars and Bars), 2nd (Stainless Banner) and 3rd National Flags.

But the battle flag image has been stolen by racists and profiteers over the years. We wouldn't have reached this point and had this miscommunication had the KKK not taken up that flag, had state governments not added it to their state flags or flown it at government buildings for the first time as a response to the civil rights movement as it heated up. We (Southerners) collectively have done this to ourselves. Southerners misused and abused a symbol to the point that it's proper meaning (soldier sacrifice and heritage) has become secondary to a message of hate, defiance, and white supremacy. And then we are offended when others don't acknowledge or believe us when we complain that they just don't understand.

We've reached the tipping point. The essay from Mr. Moore is about as well said as anything I have read on the subject.

(06-28-2015 02:47 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(06-28-2015 02:31 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I think people are trying to make this a right answer vs wrong answer thing. Some people think the flag is symbol of racism, some think it's simply pride in the region. Neither answer is right or wrong, because it really lies with the individual.

Now, I do believe that a bit of awareness must be shown when considering anything, including displaying the flag.

To me I always think of the south when I see a confederate flag. I consider myself a southerner. When I then southern I think small towns, friendly people a kindness toward neighbors not typically found in the more metropolitan north that's also my own personal experience. All that said I don't display or own a Rebel flag because it's simply not worth the headache of trying to explain why I would. Yes I'm proud to call myself southern and I think Charleston, SC is a good example why. Neighbors came to support those who experienced great loss, and those going through difficult times welcomed them as family.

And you are right in your own way.

My family has been in the South forever and a lot don't live too far from Poolrock Plantation, which is where they were held. Now, naturally I'm going to have a different association with the flag than you, and that's ok. When I think of Southern I think Raleigh, Charlotte, Atlanta, Houston, ETC and the surrounding areas. I'm proud to call myself southern also (even from my Canadian days), but the associations are different and that's okay.

I don't happen to have a repulsion to the flag, but it's not exactly a good first impression. It does not make a good or bad person. My dad goes fishing with a white guy named Onion who flies the thing off his boat, and they've been friends ever since schools integrated.

(06-28-2015 02:27 PM)Smaug Wrote:  My neighbor flies one. We discussed it once. I told him, "War's over." We don't discuss his flag any more.

Your real name isn't "Steve" by any chance?

You don't live at the top of Bluff Park do you

(06-28-2015 02:47 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(06-28-2015 02:31 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I think people are trying to make this a right answer vs wrong answer thing. Some people think the flag is symbol of racism, some think it's simply pride in the region. Neither answer is right or wrong, because it really lies with the individual.

Now, I do believe that a bit of awareness must be shown when considering anything, including displaying the flag.

To me I always think of the south when I see a confederate flag. I consider myself a southerner. When I think southern I think small towns, friendly people a kindness toward neighbors not typically found in the more metropolitan north that's also my own personal experience. All that said I don't display or own a Rebel flag because it's simply not worth the headache of trying to explain why I would. Yes I'm proud to call myself southern and I think Charleston, SC is a good example why. Neighbors came to support those who experienced great loss, and those going through difficult times welcomed them as family.

I would believe that if people had always flown the flag. However, given the fact that many only started flying it in a show of resistance to civil rights in the 60s, I don't buy it.

(06-28-2015 04:12 PM)dfarr Wrote:  

(06-28-2015 02:27 PM)Smaug Wrote:  My neighbor flies one. We discussed it once. I told him, "War's over." We don't discuss his flag any more.

Your real name isn't "Steve" by any chance?

You don't live at the top of Bluff Park do you

No, but I've seen they guy you're thinking of.

(06-28-2015 04:30 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(06-28-2015 02:47 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(06-28-2015 02:31 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I think people are trying to make this a right answer vs wrong answer thing. Some people think the flag is symbol of racism, some think it's simply pride in the region. Neither answer is right or wrong, because it really lies with the individual.

Now, I do believe that a bit of awareness must be shown when considering anything, including displaying the flag.

To me I always think of the south when I see a confederate flag. I consider myself a southerner. When I think southern I think small towns, friendly people a kindness toward neighbors not typically found in the more metropolitan north that's also my own personal experience. All that said I don't display or own a Rebel flag because it's simply not worth the headache of trying to explain why I would. Yes I'm proud to call myself southern and I think Charleston, SC is a good example why. Neighbors came to support those who experienced great loss, and those going through difficult times welcomed them as family.

I would believe that if people had always flown the flag. However, given the fact that many only started flying it in a show of resistance to civil rights in the 60s, I don't buy it.

Rebel Flags have been around long before the civil rights and were not received well up north. I still remember my parents talking about an incident that happened long before I was born. My brothers who were both under 10 at the time (roughly 1958) were flying small rebel flags out the window of the car. My parents were driving through East St. Louis IL and were chased by angry locals that weren't trying to welcome them to town. Thankfully they got away, I'd hate to think what would have happened if the angry locals had caught them.

I'm a Yankee (born & raised in NY, IL, and CT). If the situation was reversed and the South had won the war, and my "Yankee" flag was under attack right now, I'd be flying it from a 100' flagpole.

(06-28-2015 02:52 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Never had one either. Not a shirt, Dukes car, sticker, nothing. Maybe on a few of my albums (them big ol vinyl things before CD's ITunes).

May have to get one because of all the insanity though.

My wife was suggesting maybe we should get one. Hang it and a rainbow flag up on the front porch.

(06-28-2015 04:30 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(06-28-2015 02:47 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(06-28-2015 02:31 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I think people are trying to make this a right answer vs wrong answer thing. Some people think the flag is symbol of racism, some think it's simply pride in the region. Neither answer is right or wrong, because it really lies with the individual.

Now, I do believe that a bit of awareness must be shown when considering anything, including displaying the flag.

To me I always think of the south when I see a confederate flag. I consider myself a southerner. When I think southern I think small towns, friendly people a kindness toward neighbors not typically found in the more metropolitan north that's also my own personal experience. All that said I don't display or own a Rebel flag because it's simply not worth the headache of trying to explain why I would. Yes I'm proud to call myself southern and I think Charleston, SC is a good example why. Neighbors came to support those who experienced great loss, and those going through difficult times welcomed them as family.

I would believe that if people had always flown the flag. However, given the fact that many only started flying it in a show of resistance to civil rights in the 60s, I don't buy it.

Problem is, that's not a fact.

(06-28-2015 05:37 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-28-2015 04:30 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(06-28-2015 02:47 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(06-28-2015 02:31 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I think people are trying to make this a right answer vs wrong answer thing. Some people think the flag is symbol of racism, some think it's simply pride in the region. Neither answer is right or wrong, because it really lies with the individual.

Now, I do believe that a bit of awareness must be shown when considering anything, including displaying the flag.

To me I always think of the south when I see a confederate flag. I consider myself a southerner. When I think southern I think small towns, friendly people a kindness toward neighbors not typically found in the more metropolitan north that's also my own personal experience. All that said I don't display or own a Rebel flag because it's simply not worth the headache of trying to explain why I would. Yes I'm proud to call myself southern and I think Charleston, SC is a good example why. Neighbors came to support those who experienced great loss, and those going through difficult times welcomed them as family.

I would believe that if people had always flown the flag. However, given the fact that many only started flying it in a show of resistance to civil rights in the 60s, I don't buy it.

Problem is, that's not a fact.

Actually, fitty is right. That flag went quiet for a while and then exploded during the civil rights movement.

None of the "heritage not hate" folks seem to want to take ownership of that.