for those that think Baseball has a chance of being a money sport...

https://twitter.com/SportsTVRatings/stat...04/photo/1

the Womens World Series final outdrew 400 k more viewers on average than the Men's world series.

(06-27-2015 11:54 PM)stever20 Wrote:  for those that think Baseball has a chance of being a money sport...

https://twitter.com/SportsTVRatings/stat...04/photo/1

the Womens World Series final outdrew 400 k more viewers on average than the Men's world series.

Hmmmm not sure how you arrive at that based on the ratings...or the sports...


Because of where college baseball is tier wise from the Majors to the Minors to the collegiate level its a tough call when HS kids can skip the college level and go straight to the Minors. This is NOT to say College Baseball can't be a tv draw and shouldn't merit more TV coverage from the likes of NBCSN, CBSSN, ESPN family, and the FOXSports family.

That said, collegiate Softball is arguably the top tier for female softball players.

Baseball will never be a big $$$ sport in college.

(06-27-2015 11:54 PM)stever20 Wrote:  for those that think Baseball has a chance of being a money sport...

https://twitter.com/SportsTVRatings/stat...04/photo/1

the Womens World Series final outdrew 400 k more viewers on average than the Men's world series.

Interesting.

Now if you said Michigan-Florida outdrew Virginia-Vanderbilt, no one would pay attention.

I might add that both events outdrew several bowl games. So yeah, I suspect that baseball can become a revenue sport. It already is for a handful of schools. The big key is its finally getting decent coverage---but in truth, its still early in its development as a major media event. Give it time.

(06-28-2015 10:53 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  I might add that both events outdrew several bowl games. So yeah, I suspect that baseball can become a revenue sport. It already is for a handful of schools. The big key is its finally getting decent coverage---but in truth, its still early in its development as a major media event. Give it time.

College athletics departments are leaving a lot of money on the table by not extending the regular baseball season thru June. Why shouldn't scholarship athletes attend summer school?

(06-28-2015 11:12 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(06-28-2015 10:53 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  I might add that both events outdrew several bowl games. So yeah, I suspect that baseball can become a revenue sport. It already is for a handful of schools. The big key is its finally getting decent coverage---but in truth, its still early in its development as a major media event. Give it time.

College athletics departments are leaving a lot of money on the table by not extending the regular baseball season thru June. Why shouldn't scholarship athletes attend summer school?

For one reason, A lot of seniors have to start their jobs after graduation.

At most places the Spring semester is over before the end of the baseball season. The NCAA could extend it to June or July whether the athletes attend summer classes or not.

I paid 150 bucks a ticket for just OK seats for our first game this year, FWIW.

(06-28-2015 11:12 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(06-28-2015 10:53 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  I might add that both events outdrew several bowl games. So yeah, I suspect that baseball can become a revenue sport. It already is for a handful of schools. The big key is its finally getting decent coverage---but in truth, its still early in its development as a major media event. Give it time.

College athletics departments are leaving a lot of money on the table by not extending the regular baseball season thru June. Why shouldn't scholarship athletes attend summer school?

I agree. The Northern schools would be able to start baseball at a tolerable time of year weather-wise (allowing college baseball to become more than a regional sport), while all schools benefit from having much more of the sports calendar to themselves in late-June and July. The best time for the NCAA baseball tournament and College World Series from a pure TV and exposure perspective is right now heading into July when it's basically a dead time for sports nationwide. Early June is one of the most packed times in sports with the NBA Finals, Stanley Cup Final, US Open, Belmont Stakes, second week of the French Open, etc. It then quickly evaporates at the end of June through when NFL training camps start in July. That would be the perfect window to have the NCAA baseball tournament ("perfect" meaning for casual sports fans - I know that it may not be perfect for the students and coaches, but call me when the NCAA has ever cared about that before).

(06-29-2015 10:10 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(06-28-2015 11:12 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(06-28-2015 10:53 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  I might add that both events outdrew several bowl games. So yeah, I suspect that baseball can become a revenue sport. It already is for a handful of schools. The big key is its finally getting decent coverage---but in truth, its still early in its development as a major media event. Give it time.

College athletics departments are leaving a lot of money on the table by not extending the regular baseball season thru June. Why shouldn't scholarship athletes attend summer school?

I agree. The Northern schools would be able to start baseball at a tolerable time of year weather-wise (allowing college baseball to become more than a regional sport), while all schools benefit from having much more of the sports calendar to themselves in late-June and July. The best time for the NCAA baseball tournament and College World Series from a pure TV and exposure perspective is right now heading into July when it's basically a dead time for sports nationwide. Early June is one of the most packed times in sports with the NBA Finals, Stanley Cup Final, US Open, Belmont Stakes, second week of the French Open, etc. It then quickly evaporates at the end of June through when NFL training camps start in July. That would be the perfect window to have the NCAA baseball tournament ("perfect" meaning for casual sports fans - I know that it may not be perfect for the students and coaches, but call me when the NCAA has ever cared about that before).

The presidents always care. Its just that money trumps it. I don't see any money in this for anyone but the Big 10.

I don't think there's a chance this happens. For one the players would revolt- you would see some players right after the MLB draft leave school immediately for the pros- in mid-season. Probably a whole lot more than you would think.

I doubt all those 1st round picks who played in Omaha this year would be so open to staying on their college teams well past the MLB draft.

(06-29-2015 01:34 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  I doubt all those 1st round picks who played in Omaha this year would be so open to staying on their college teams well past the MLB draft.

yup, and MLB I don't think would move their draft- they want to start working with their new players asap (especially with the short season minor leagues).

(06-29-2015 01:34 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  I doubt all those 1st round picks who played in Omaha this year would be so open to staying on their college teams well past the MLB draft.

Not just first round picks. In fact, the college players picked in rounds 2-40 (yes, 40 rounds in the MLB draft) have much more urgency in needing to report to their minor league team and start competing with the drafted players who don't come out of a "4 year" college. Many if not most of them are assigned by their MLB team to a "short season" minor league and would miss more than half of their "rookie" season if they were still playing college baseball at the end of July. Many, if not most, would get held back another year on the minor league ladder if they don't report to their minor league team until August. (So instead of being a 21-year-old in "high A" ball, they'd be 22 before they get there, and more of them will just get shunted out of the system quickly because their MLB team deems them too old to progress to the majors at a reasonably young age.) And, the players who are returning to college baseball next year play in one of the summer baseball leagues to get noticed by scouts and boost their future draft prospects. Those summer leagues would be out of the picture for any college player who plays in a "late" college season.

Give college baseball players a choice between the current regular season and an alternative season that ends in late July or early August, and those who plan to play pro baseball will all choose the current season.

yeah- pretty much no shot of the calendar extending until Late July/Early August. It'd be a complete non-starter for the players. MLB won't adjust their draft date.

Northern schools are fine. The Big Ten had five bids to the NCAAs this year.

(06-28-2015 07:18 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Baseball will never be a big $$$ sport in college.

If it was played over the summer it would be.

(06-29-2015 06:49 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-28-2015 07:18 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Baseball will never be a big $$$ sport in college.

If it was played over the summer it would be.

but there's no chance of it getting played over the summer.

A couple notes on the final polls (exception being Baseball America who didn't have a poll after May 25th):

- Illinois, the Big Ten's lone national seed, finished inside the top 15 nationally in all the polls. Most notably they were 11th in both the Coaches' and NCBWA polls.

- Cal State Fullerton finished in the top 10 in all the polls thanks to their run to Omaha. They finished 7th in the Coaches poll.
- UC Santa Barbara, ranked for most of the year inside the top-15, fell to the 21-25 range.