Quote:Did you intentionally ignore the rest of the post, or simply leave it out so there was no context to what I had said?

Did I imply saying something behind anyone's back? I just said, in my actual full post, that "too many" of my admitted friends hail from up North. I would NEVER talk behind a friends back, despite your yankee proclivity to do so. so it sounds you would.

I did not launch an attack upon you in my post. Why are you attacking me? Re-read your earlier post. It's a mixed message which made me think about what many others have been expressing these past few days on this board: a dislike of outsiders or persons who are not the same as them. For context for you, go back to my earlier statement in this thread, in which I asked whether or not posters were just throwing smack or were xenophobic (which by the way can range from being uncomfortable with others from other places to outright prejudice and hatred of those persons).

(06-27-2015 12:46 AM)Okie Chippewa Wrote:  

Quote:Did you intentionally ignore the rest of the post, or simply leave it out so there was no context to what I had said?

Did I imply saying something behind anyone's back? I just said, in my actual full post, that "too many" of my admitted friends hail from up North. I would NEVER talk behind a friends back, despite your yankee proclivity to do so. so it sounds you would.

I did not launch an attack upon you in my post. Why are you attacking me? Re-read your earlier post. It's a mixed message which made me think about what many others have been expressing these past few days on this board: a dislike of outsiders or persons who are not the same as them. For context for you, go back to my earlier statement in this thread, in which I asked whether or not posters were just throwing smack or were xenophobic (which by the way can range from being uncomfortable with others from other places to outright prejudice and hatred of those persons).

Dude?, Dudette?, (I don't know, and not gonna guess). None of that was an attack.

If you see it as such, what is this?

Quote:it appears you wish the area in which you live to remain insular

Sheeesh. I didn't take that as an "attack", but perhaps as a misguided notion, is that fair?

I tried to give you an honest response as to why many of us down "heres" would simply like to be left alone, and not infiltrated by the over-bearing, obnoxious, cranky-voiced, pushy, impatient and know-it-alls yankmes.

Thats all. Come visit, all are welcome as it's a Southern thing. I'll be happy to buy you a beer.

All we ask is that later, shake that tail feather on back up north. K?

(06-26-2015 10:26 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

(06-26-2015 09:30 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(06-26-2015 09:12 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I've lived in three southeastern states, New England, the West Coast, and Texas. I have zero interest in leaving Texas to return to any of the others.

I would give you my location tip sauce, but there are too many damned Yankees around here to post it publicly. PM me if you want it.

You're worried a bunch of northerners from this board will move south because you post some tips on some good places to settle? I get the reasons why you dislike the influx, but I doubt a post on an anonymous political message board on a college athletics fan site is going to turn Charleston into the next incarnation of Youngstown (and that's a fate I wish upon nobody).

If I were a southerner I'd probably resent it to be honest, no one wants to feel like they're being 'taken over' by an outside force that acquires influence. I myself don't identify with the 'north' in general since that's such a broad term; what is the north? Is it the Rust Belt, the Upper Midwest, the Northeast, New England, the Pacific Northwest, or all of the above? I don't know, but I'm midwestern more than anything else. And while the midwest has a vast array of differences from the south, it has a lot more in common with you guys (or y'all as you'd say, just one of the many differences lol) than the eastern corridor that stretches from DC through Boston.

I've lived in New York, Connecticut, Illinois, and Texas. Culturally, the Northeast and Midwest are similar. The South is different. For example ... when I moved to Texas 30 years ago, there was rock music on the radio from Connecticut to Richmond, VA. Once I got past Richmond, I didn't hear rock music again until I got to Dallas. Whereas I had driven from Connecticut to Illinois many times and there was only rock on the radio on those trips.

As far as people go, all three areas are very different:

1) With Northeasterners, you either know them or you don't. Their friendships are closer than elsewhere in the country, but strangers are sometimes treated like a red haired stepchild. Northeasterners are blunt; they don't sugarcoat anything. And don't try to B.S. them; they can spot B.S. a mile away. Northeasterners always respect the best; that's why the NFL is more popular there than college football.

2) Texans are the friendliest people I've ever known. They generally want to be left alone (they're very self-reliant), but if your house is ever hit by a tornado, you want a Texan for a neighbor; they'll do absolutely anything to help you. And in most cases, Texans won't hold it against you if you don't own a Mercedes or BMW.

3) Midwesterners are about halfway in between Northeasterners and Texans as far as personality traits. The "down to earth" stereotype is generally correct. FWIW ... the smartest, most beautiful, and nicest woman I ever met was from Minnesota.

Well, I think that's enough stereotyping for one day.

(06-25-2015 01:17 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Makes sense, lots of unskilled labor there.

Quite the contrary... lots of skilled labor there. Georgia even set up an additional training program for workers at KIA factory. Look at Columbus, MS and it's PACCAR state of the art engine research and manufacturing plant.
http://www.paccarenginejobs.com/ The company: http://www.paccar.com/
Another Pacific Northwest company leaving the area.

Boeing is growing in Charleston, SC.

If this keeps up the rust belt will become more rusty.

(06-27-2015 06:09 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(06-26-2015 10:26 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

(06-26-2015 09:30 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(06-26-2015 09:12 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I've lived in three southeastern states, New England, the West Coast, and Texas. I have zero interest in leaving Texas to return to any of the others.

I would give you my location tip sauce, but there are too many damned Yankees around here to post it publicly. PM me if you want it.

You're worried a bunch of northerners from this board will move south because you post some tips on some good places to settle? I get the reasons why you dislike the influx, but I doubt a post on an anonymous political message board on a college athletics fan site is going to turn Charleston into the next incarnation of Youngstown (and that's a fate I wish upon nobody).

If I were a southerner I'd probably resent it to be honest, no one wants to feel like they're being 'taken over' by an outside force that acquires influence. I myself don't identify with the 'north' in general since that's such a broad term; what is the north? Is it the Rust Belt, the Upper Midwest, the Northeast, New England, the Pacific Northwest, or all of the above? I don't know, but I'm midwestern more than anything else. And while the midwest has a vast array of differences from the south, it has a lot more in common with you guys (or y'all as you'd say, just one of the many differences lol) than the eastern corridor that stretches from DC through Boston.

I've lived in New York, Connecticut, Illinois, and Texas. Culturally, the Northeast and Midwest are similar. The South is different. For example ... when I moved to Texas 30 years ago, there was rock music on the radio from Connecticut to Richmond, VA. Once I got past Richmond, I didn't hear rock music again until I got to Dallas. Whereas I had driven from Connecticut to Illinois many times and there was only rock on the radio on those trips.

As far as people go, all three areas are very different:

1) With Northeasterners, you either know them or you don't. Their friendships are closer than elsewhere in the country, but strangers are sometimes treated like a red haired stepchild. Northeasterners are blunt; they don't sugarcoat anything. And don't try to B.S. them; they can spot B.S. a mile away. Northeasterners always respect the best; that's why the NFL is more popular there than college football.

2) Texans are the friendliest people I've ever known. They generally want to be left alone (they're very self-reliant), but if your house is ever hit by a tornado, you want a Texan for a neighbor; they'll do absolutely anything to help you. And in most cases, Texans won't hold it against you if you don't own a Mercedes or BMW.

3) Midwesterners are about halfway in between Northeasterners and Texans as far as personality traits. The "down to earth" stereotype is generally correct. FWIW ... the smartest, most beautiful, and nicest woman I ever met was from Minnesota.

Well, I think that's enough stereotyping for one day.

So, you love the Swedes who founded Minnesota? : )

(06-26-2015 08:58 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(06-26-2015 07:26 PM)chess Wrote:  My car was built in the United States and in Greer, SC.

Tip of the hat on that Beamer.

I think this shows the sheer scale of things at their plant quite well.

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.8933138,...a=!3m1!1e3


That tiny semicircle in front? That's the BMW Zentrum, a quite large gift center / tour grouping location. To the left is Greenville-Spartanburg International... and that's a more than 10K ft runway that can land the biggest jumbos. The little strip across the bottom is all 6 lanes of I-85, which has very heavy freight traffic around the clock. Just to the North ... the only BMW test track in the Western Hemisphere. Head down I-85 south another 10 miles or so and you'll reach the joint research venture with Clemson (iCar).

Quote:Bimmer vs Beemer
Enthusiasts vs others
Definitions:
Bimmer - proper accepted slang for BMW cars. Most people don't know this.
Beamer/Beemer - proper accepted slang for BMW motorcycles. You will hear this term used incorrectly by many people.
Bummer - When you get a speeding ticket.
Bitter - Another German car. Very rare; hand built.

http://www.bmwccbc.org/misc/tech-and-trivia/bimmer.html

My other auto is a Honda. I think it was built in Alabama. My neighbor helped design the seats. After many years working with Motorola, he just took a job with GM and is moving to Detroit.

(06-26-2015 11:56 PM)Murray007 Wrote:  I'm damn proud to say I'm from the South. There's no place like it in the world, and while I may leave at some point for jobs/life in general, I doubt I'll be gone too long.

My wife has been wanting to take a vacation to Europe. I told her I have no desire to travel anywhere that requires a passport. We might move from the Memphis area one day when our parents are gone, but it will be somewhere in the south- most likely east TN or lower Alabama.

My only requirements are- 10-15 acres, small town of 15,000 or less and some specific demographics which I wont get into here as to not offend some.

(06-27-2015 06:09 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  I've lived in New York, Connecticut, Illinois, and Texas. Culturally, the Northeast and Midwest are similar. The South is different. For example ... when I moved to Texas 30 years ago, there was rock music on the radio from Connecticut to Richmond, VA. Once I got past Richmond, I didn't hear rock music again until I got to Dallas. Whereas I had driven from Connecticut to Illinois many times and there was only rock on the radio on those trips.

As far as people go, all three areas are very different:

1) With Northeasterners, you either know them or you don't. Their friendships are closer than elsewhere in the country, but strangers are sometimes treated like a red haired stepchild. Northeasterners are blunt; they don't sugarcoat anything. And don't try to B.S. them; they can spot B.S. a mile away. Northeasterners always respect the best; that's why the NFL is more popular there than college football.

2) Texans are the friendliest people I've ever known. They generally want to be left alone (they're very self-reliant), but if your house is ever hit by a tornado, you want a Texan for a neighbor; they'll do absolutely anything to help you. And in most cases, Texans won't hold it against you if you don't own a Mercedes or BMW.

3) Midwesterners are about halfway in between Northeasterners and Texans as far as personality traits. The "down to earth" stereotype is generally correct. FWIW ... the smartest, most beautiful, and nicest woman I ever met was from Minnesota.

Well, I think that's enough stereotyping for one day.

You didn't scan the dial very hard. Pretty sure it is a law just about to have at least one rock station so Skynyrd can be played. I have 5 or 6 here.

Quote:Dude?, Dudette?, (I don't know, and not gonna guess). None of that was an attack.

If you see it as such, what is this?

Quote:it appears you wish the area in which you live to remain insular

Sheeesh. I didn't take that as an "attack", but perhaps as a misguided notion, is that fair?

I tried to give you an honest response as to why many of us down "heres" would simply like to be left alone, and not infiltrated by the over-bearing, obnoxious, cranky-voiced, pushy, impatient and know-it-alls yankmes.

Thats all. Come visit, all are welcome as it's a Southern thing. I'll be happy to buy you a beer.

All we ask is that later, shake that tail feather on back up north. K?

OK, let's use "misguided notion"; that's more accurate.

Insular, by the way, is not a derogatory word. I first said it "appears you wish to remain insular". Your follow-up comments have verified it. I'm not being derogatory. I'm making an observation rather than a judgment.

Now that I've thought about it, your local region could make for an interesting case study on culture clash in shared geographic space. Where exactly do you live? I know some cultural geographers who may wish to conduct such research. Don't worry; it's not me! I'm a cartographer and physical geographer.