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(06-25-2015 04:57 PM)Wiessman Wrote:  
(06-25-2015 04:26 PM)RiceBull Wrote:  I always thought it would be cool if the students would enter the stadium wearing their college colors and then once the game starts switch to Blue and Gray to symbolize campus unity.

I floated this very idea to another member of this board seven years ago. I still like it, but it would require a very coordinated effort by the colleges.

Exactly. Good luck with that. The vast majority of current students couldn't give two ***** about our football team. That's the biggest challenge that our athletic administration and university administration need to work towards rectifying.
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(06-25-2015 09:25 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  
(06-25-2015 09:10 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  Fly the flags of each college around the stadium. Big ones. Also fly the flags of each CUSA member, like we did when we were in the SWC. Familiarize everyone with our fellow members. Flags privide a lot of color, have purpose, and add a lot to the gameday atmosphere. I never enter the stadium without mine.

The flags do fly at the stadium, on game day for sure.

They do.

Flashy flags and shiny objects not being present arent the reason that Rice Students dont care. We seem to act like adding some bells and whistles will somehow make students show up, as though that was the reason all along. We built Tudor.. did that somehow make people care about MBB? We forced students to eat at the stadium - all that did was create resentment.

No one avoids HRS because it doesn't have a giant video board, Wifi or fancy seats. They don't show up because they dont care about Rice Football, the random school that we are playing, the horribly inconvenient start times, etc etc
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(06-26-2015 02:00 PM)Antarius Wrote:  No one avoids HRS because it doesn't have a giant video board, Wifi or fancy seats. They don't show up because they dont care about Rice Football, the random school that we are playing, the horribly inconvenient start times, etc etc

Not disagreeing with the sentiment... but of course 'no one' is too broad. It's obviously a convoluted mix of things...

Students are generally attracted by different things than alums and different from 'fans', and marketing to those groups means different things. No, students probably don't care about wifi, but non-students probably don't care about college rivalries. I suspect students care less about the bathrooms and concessions as well, but maybe not.

The COMMON things that impact the interests of these groups would be the times, our performance and the competition.... which we have little control over (of course, more over our own performance, but you follow).

There is no reason we can't market to all three of those groups... and of course, they all contribute to 'environment'...

but by far the largest room for increasing overall attendance is from people who didn't attend our school... and while those people ABSOLUTELY care about the quality of the game itself, there is NO WAY that we can expect to put on a more compelling quality of game than the multitude of top 25 games that are on EVERY week.

What we CAN offer them is the ability to keep up with that action WHILE they are getting the game day environment from us.

My thought is a bit like the Lucky Strike concept for bowling or the dine-in movies. Like a sports bar, but with live action, tailgating, the Mob etc.

Let's be honest... We can't convince anyone that Rice v UTSA is 'better' than OU/OSU or Ala/Aub... even if we're both good that year and the others are in slumps... but we CAN convince them that a) if they live in the area, they can attend out game for less than $500 and b) that they don't have to miss THAT game in order to catch ours.
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I don't follow how giving people (I wouldn't call them fans) an opportunity to watch a game other than the one on the field is a good thing. Even if people did fall for it, why do we want them at our game? Could the crowd be any less engaged?
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(06-26-2015 06:18 PM)RiceBull Wrote:  Even if people did fall for it, why do we want them at our game?

If they're there, they count in attendance stats. If they paid to be there, that's revenue. If they paid for beer while they were there, that's still more revenue.
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(06-26-2015 07:33 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  
(06-26-2015 06:18 PM)RiceBull Wrote:  Even if people did fall for it, why do we want them at our game?

If they're there, they count in attendance stats. If they paid to be there, that's revenue. If they paid for beer while they were there, that's still more revenue.

Agreed. We aren't in a position to turn away fans.

With regards to Hambones post - I agree with the concept of catering to different fans, just dont know if a lucky strike concept would work at Rice games especially given our lousy start times - it's hot and humid. If I was an OU fan, I'd be at a bar with a good cold one and not at HRS.

We could improve our offerings in terms of food and beverage to makef for a better atmosphere. Make it a place where people can bring friends and hang out. Allowing beer all over the stadium would do well for revenue and game day experience as well .
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I have no idea how the television rights or contract is set up. Maybe Conf USA should require at least one conference night game be available for all the schools in Conf USA. to improve attendance and not sweating in the heat every game.
(06-26-2015 07:49 PM)Antarius Wrote:  
(06-26-2015 07:33 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  
(06-26-2015 06:18 PM)RiceBull Wrote:  Even if people did fall for it, why do we want them at our game?

If they're there, they count in attendance stats. If they paid to be there, that's revenue. If they paid for beer while they were there, that's still more revenue.

Agreed. We aren't in a position to turn away fans.

With regards to Hambones post - I agree with the concept of catering to different fans, just dont know if a lucky strike concept would work at Rice games especially given our lousy start times - it's hot and humid. If I was an OU fan, I'd be at a bar with a good cold one and not at HRS.

We could improve our offerings in terms of food and beverage to makef for a better atmosphere. Make it a place where people can bring friends and hang out. Allowing beer all over the stadium would do well for revenue and game day experience as well .
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Don't forget that fans these days are very spoiled and have very short attention spans. They want to be entertained. They really do care about jumbotrons, in game entertainment, and comfort. They want it all. Their expectations are high. Concessions and amenities must be modern and immaculate. Every little variable counts. A lot of money is going to have to be spent on Rice Stadium to make it more aesthetically pleasing, functional, and exciting.
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(06-27-2015 12:10 AM)Afflicted Wrote:  Don't forget that fans these days are very spoiled and have very short attention spans. They want to be entertained. They really do care about jumbotrons, in game entertainment, and comfort. They want it all. Their expectations are high. Concessions and amenities must be modern and immaculate. Every little variable counts. A lot of money is going to have to be spent on Rice Stadium to make it more aesthetically pleasing, functional, and exciting.

I am one of those you call "fans these days". All that stuff you list is nice to have. Yes, we want to be entertained - and the best way is a quality product on the field. Convenience also matters (game time, parking, restrooms) etc.

Have you met anyone who doesnt go to Rice games due to the lack of jumbotrons, in game entertainment and comfort?

At some point these become important, but that point isnt now. The basics are far more important at this stage
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Rice Stadium needs all the bells and whistles and glitter that money can buy. Everyone else in FBS already has all that. We've all been to games at UT and A&M. Even UH has all this now. I wouldn't wait because we're already years behind in producing a modern-day college football experience. We already have the product on the field and TV is going to tell us at what time we'll play. Rice Stadium needs it all and it needs it ASAP.
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(06-27-2015 01:41 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  Rice Stadium needs all the bells and whistles and glitter that money can buy. Everyone else in FBS already has all that. We've all been to games at UT and A&M. Even UH has all this now. I wouldn't wait because we're already years behind in producing a modern-day college football experience. We already have the product on the field and TV is going to tell us at what time we'll play. Rice Stadium needs it all and it needs it ASAP.

Explain MBB. Tudor has all the bells and whistles and didn't magically fix basketball attendance. On the other hand, Rhoades comes along and we start playing interesting, competitive basketball and our attendance increases.

If you think we already have the product and the only thing holding us back is upgrades on HRS... then you're, well.... wrong.
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(06-27-2015 05:14 PM)Antarius Wrote:  
(06-27-2015 01:41 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  Rice Stadium needs all the bells and whistles and glitter that money can buy. Everyone else in FBS already has all that. We've all been to games at UT and A&M. Even UH has all this now. I wouldn't wait because we're already years behind in producing a modern-day college football experience. We already have the product on the field and TV is going to tell us at what time we'll play. Rice Stadium needs it all and it needs it ASAP.

Explain MBB. Tudor has all the bells and whistles and didn't magically fix basketball attendance. On the other hand, Rhoades comes along and we start playing interesting, competitive basketball and our attendance increases.

If you think we already have the product and the only thing holding us back is upgrades on HRS... then you're, well.... wrong.

The two go hand in hand Antarius. The new Tudor has lacked the product since it was renovated and it still lacks the product. Fans won't start showing up until we start having winning seasons and going to postseason tournaments. Rice basketball has to build a winning tradition. That process has already begun in football. We need to keep going to bowl games, play schools in our area, and win another championship. Unfortunately, gameday isn't just about the game anymore, it's about a coordinated presentation that includes the game. We live in an age of constant audio and visual stimulation. Just look at how the Astros and Rockets present their games. It's really incredible. If we want people who are used to that to come to Rice Stadium, we have to give them something close to what they get from our competitors. Right now, we are far from doing that. At least that's how I see it.
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(06-27-2015 08:45 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  
(06-27-2015 05:14 PM)Antarius Wrote:  
(06-27-2015 01:41 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  Rice Stadium needs all the bells and whistles and glitter that money can buy. Everyone else in FBS already has all that. We've all been to games at UT and A&M. Even UH has all this now. I wouldn't wait because we're already years behind in producing a modern-day college football experience. We already have the product on the field and TV is going to tell us at what time we'll play. Rice Stadium needs it all and it needs it ASAP.

Explain MBB. Tudor has all the bells and whistles and didn't magically fix basketball attendance. On the other hand, Rhoades comes along and we start playing interesting, competitive basketball and our attendance increases.

If you think we already have the product and the only thing holding us back is upgrades on HRS... then you're, well.... wrong.

The two go hand in hand Antarius. The new Tudor has lacked the product since it was renovated and it still lacks the product. Fans won't start showing up until we start having winning seasons and going to postseason tournaments. Rice basketball has to build a winning tradition. That process has already begun in football. We need to keep going to bowl games, play schools in our area, and win another championship. Unfortunately, gameday isn't just about the game anymore, it's about a coordinated presentation that includes the game. We live in an age of constant audio and visual stimulation. Just look at how the Astros and Rockets present their games. It's really incredible. If we want people who are used to that to come to Rice Stadium, we have to give them something close to what they get from our competitors. Right now, we are far from doing that. At least that's how I see it.

You hit the nail on the head 100% 04-clap2 ! (and you didn't specify the local opponents we should play, so I'll let that part slide)
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Tudor has no bells and whistles in major basketball
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(06-27-2015 10:06 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Tudor has no bells and whistles in major basketball

At least it has academic integrity.
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I have to agree with Pony. I don't know if you've been to another even mid-major experience (pretty certain UH's offering is lagging even further, though I have no exposure to it). I've been to VCU, Richmond and ODU recently, and the level of entertainment, advertising throughout the venue, and use of space is way beyond what I've seen at Tudor. Tudor is a step up from the Jungle Gym, but it's behind where most aspiring mid-major programs are already at.

Part of it is definitely the product on the court/field, and it's a chicken/egg kind of thing. Only with increased, consistent attendance will local companies want to advertise/engage the audience in various ways (and pay for the opportunity to do so).
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Haha that refers to the 90's not today
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(06-27-2015 10:31 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Haha that refers to the 90's not today

You might want to google academic problems SMU basketball more often.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketba...roprieties
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(06-27-2015 10:31 PM)gsloth Wrote:  I have to agree with Pony. I don't know if you've been to another even mid-major experience (pretty certain UH's offering is lagging even further, though I have no exposure to it). I've been to VCU, Richmond and ODU recently, and the level of entertainment, advertising throughout the venue, and use of space is way beyond what I've seen at Tudor. Tudor is a step up from the Jungle Gym, but it's behind where most aspiring mid-major programs are already at.

Part of it is definitely the product on the court/field, and it's a chicken/egg kind of thing. Only with increased, consistent attendance will local companies want to advertise/engage the audience in various ways (and pay for the opportunity to do so).

I agree completely with the lack of a Gameday atmosphere at Rice compared to elsewhere. This is something that the new AD administration is aware of and hopefully can improve on.

I have long believed that someone familiar with MiLB game promotions should be brought in or consultated. While I personally don't like the constant barrage of noise/activities that goes on at a MILB games I understand I am in the minority.

Give Rhoades two more years and you will see improvement on the court and in Tudor's atmosphere.
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(06-27-2015 10:50 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  
(06-27-2015 10:31 PM)gsloth Wrote:  I have to agree with Pony. I don't know if you've been to another even mid-major experience (pretty certain UH's offering is lagging even further, though I have no exposure to it). I've been to VCU, Richmond and ODU recently, and the level of entertainment, advertising throughout the venue, and use of space is way beyond what I've seen at Tudor. Tudor is a step up from the Jungle Gym, but it's behind where most aspiring mid-major programs are already at.

Part of it is definitely the product on the court/field, and it's a chicken/egg kind of thing. Only with increased, consistent attendance will local companies want to advertise/engage the audience in various ways (and pay for the opportunity to do so).

I agree completely with the lack of a Gameday atmosphere at Rice compared to elsewhere. This is something that the new AD administration is aware of and hopefully can improve on.

I have long believed that someone familiar with MiLB game promotions should be brought in or consultated. While I personally don't like the constant barrage of noise/activities that goes on at a MILB games I understand I am in the minority.

Give Rhoades two more years and you will see improvement on the court and in Tudor's atmosphere.

I agree. He'll turn it around.
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