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Gruber played bigger role in ACA than previously admitted
Let me find my shocked face...

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http://www.wsj.com/articles/mit-economis...1434910195

Quote: Jonathan Gruber, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology economist whose comments about the health-care law touched off a political furor, worked more closely than previously known with the White House and top federal officials to shape the law, previously unreleased emails show.

The emails, provided by the House Oversight Committee to The Wall Street Journal, cover messages Mr. Gruber sent from January 2009 through March 2010. Committee staffers said they worked with MIT to obtain the 20,000 pages of emails.

Quote:The emails show frequent consultations between Mr. Gruber and top Obama administration staffers and advisers in the White House and the Department of Health and Human Services on the Affordable Care Act. They show he informed HHS about interviews with reporters and discussions with lawmakers, and he consulted with HHS about how to publicly describe his role.

The administration has sought to distance itself from the economist in the wake of his controversial statements in a 2013 video, where he said the health law passed because of the “huge political advantage” of the legislation’s lacking transparency. He also referred to the “stupidity of the American voter.”

Quote:In a Jan. 14, 2010 email, Mr. Furman emailed that “we got a deal with labor. Keep that very close hold.” Unions had been opposing the health law but rallied to support it.

He also in April 2009 supplied HHS with information outlining “winners and losers” if employers responded to the law by moving workers into the exchanges.

In a May 2009 email, he said there would be 3.6 million “losers” who were forced into individual coverage after the health care overhaul. “As you might suspect, this group is largely young and healthy,” he wrote. In an August 2009 email, he said 4.2 million people with employer-sponsored insurance would be dropped from having coverage, a development that hasn’t materialized.

In a Sept. 23, 2009, email, Mr. Gruber emailed Ms. Lambrew saying “pharma is going to be a huge winner from this bill—maybe $15 billion/year in incremental revenue. Any way to go after them harder for financing?”
06-22-2015 06:40 PM
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Thanks for posting the info, miko. This reeks. Of course. Go King.
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If that little bit of information amounts to a "bigger" role, than I also have a shocked face! 04-jawdrop

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(06-23-2015 09:55 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  If that little bit of information amounts to a "bigger" role, than I also have a shocked face! 04-jawdrop

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20,000 pages of disgusting lies is enough for you to crawl out of commie cave and post.
Not a smidgen.
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(06-23-2015 10:03 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(06-23-2015 09:55 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  If that little bit of information amounts to a "bigger" role, than I also have a shocked face! 04-jawdrop

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20,000 pages of disgusting lies is enough for you to crawl out of commie cave and post.
Not a smidgen.

Either make a coherent point or do us all a favor and just keep talking to the voices in your head, mmmkay? 03-drunk
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(06-23-2015 10:12 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(06-23-2015 10:03 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(06-23-2015 09:55 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  If that little bit of information amounts to a "bigger" role, than I also have a shocked face! 04-jawdrop

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20,000 pages of disgusting lies is enough for you to crawl out of commie cave and post.
Not a smidgen.

Either make a coherent point or do us all a favor and just keep talking to the voices in your head, mmmkay? 03-drunk

are you ready to reply to the post I set up directly for you a year ago, or are you going to run and hide again?
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(06-23-2015 10:12 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(06-23-2015 10:03 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(06-23-2015 09:55 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  If that little bit of information amounts to a "bigger" role, than I also have a shocked face! 04-jawdrop

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20,000 pages of disgusting lies is enough for you to crawl out of commie cave and post.
Not a smidgen.

Either make a coherent point or do us all a favor and just keep talking to the voices in your head, mmmkay? 03-drunk

You're not a mod. So you have no standing to be dictating terms to ANYONE!!!
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RE: Gruber played bigger role in ACA than previously admitted
The only reason I bring this up is because it clearly shows that the current administration has no issues with lying in order to insulate itself politically. That's all this is about really, gamesmanship. The admin took a gamble that states would buckle under the pressure that if no exchanges were created on the state level, that those states would lose out big time on federal dollars for ACA and medicare. The bluff didn't work, and now the leadership wants to pretend that their political calculus backfired, and that all of that was nothing more than an "oversight" that was never meant to happen. Bullsh!t. How do we know that the administration is lying? Simple because the e-mails are now coming to the fore. Gruber played a bigger role than they admitted. We knew this. They tried to minimize the damage.

Honesty in government would be very refreshing. Too bad you'll never get it from the current system where the dems and the GOP have a duopoly.
06-24-2015 10:00 AM
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