I really hope USM regains its form for the sake of USM, as well as CUSA. I just hope USM fans don't replace ECU fans with the constant beatching regaring conference affiliation, etc. That gets old quickly.

(06-24-2015 10:10 AM)VA49er Wrote:  I really hope USM regains its form for the sake of USM, as well as CUSA. I just hope USM fans don't replace ECU fans with the constant beatching regaring conference affiliation, etc. That gets old quickly.

What gets old is you always bringing ECU in something that has nothing to do with us. Focus on Charlotte for a change and don't worry about what some other school might do. If they want to beatch and moan about conference affiliation then let them.

(06-24-2015 10:10 AM)VA49er Wrote:  I really hope USM regains its form for the sake of USM, as well as CUSA. I just hope USM fans don't replace ECU fans with the constant beatching regaring conference affiliation, etc. That gets old quickly.

You have to have been where they were and see what they have seen during their dark times recently to appreciate a attitude about being pisssed off about missing out. USM's miss in the last round is roughly equivalent to the circumstances surrounding ECU at the time CUSA had its first raid by the BE and ECU was left out.

Also, any USM fan from that era as well as any ECU fan would agree that CUSA 1.0-1.5 is/was a totally different ball game than what CUSA IS right now.

(06-24-2015 09:23 AM)southernmiss4ever Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 09:46 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  As mentioned in a previous post, the majority of the really bad butthurt is coming from the older generation of alums. Students at G5-member schools now don't know any better. As time goes on, I suspect we'll hear less and less whining about not being P5.

I've said this before, but I don't think people that aren't in Hattiesburg don't realize what goes on in this city for SEC stuff.

Hattiesburg is ~3 hours from Baton Rouge
Hattiesburg is ~3 1/2 hours from Starkville
Hattiesburg is ~3 1/2 hours from Oxford
Hattiesburg is 3 hours down 1-59 from Tuscaloosa

And that's not even counting the Tennessee/UGA/Auburn/Florida fans in this town.

If you're ever in Hattiesburg (for whatever reason) on a college football Saturday and one of the aforementioned schools are playing on TV, go to Mugshots and see how many "SEC" fans are there.

When LSU/Alabama play every year, you can not get a table in that restaurant, and that place holds over 300 people.

Students at USM would rather spend the weekend in Baton Rouge/Starkville/Oxford/Tuscaloosa than stay in Hattiesburg and tailgate and watch USM play FAU or Old Dominion. That's just the way it is, unfortunately.

Agree, but I do think that the more USM plays FAU/ODU...the more familiar they will become. Not sure how many knew of UTEP back in '05. I think that's one of the biggest things I've heard from supporters in my neck of the woods. They don't necessarily think bad of the some of the new additions. They just aren't familiar with them. Brand building takes time...and in a SEC dominated area, it could take a LONG time. Winning will cure a lot of ills. JMO, but I don't think the AD comes off well at all in the article.

(06-24-2015 10:52 AM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 10:10 AM)VA49er Wrote:  I really hope USM regains its form for the sake of USM, as well as CUSA. I just hope USM fans don't replace ECU fans with the constant beatching regaring conference affiliation, etc. That gets old quickly.

You have to have been where they were and see what they have seen during their dark times recently to appreciate a attitude about being pisssed off about missing out. USM's miss in the last round is roughly equivalent to the circumstances surrounding ECU at the time CUSA had its first raid by the BE and ECU was left out.

Also, any USM fan from that era as well as any ECU fan would agree that CUSA 1.0-1.5 is/was a totally different ball game than what CUSA IS right now.

Well other than SMiss it took 3 years before CUSA had a ranked school in 1.0

I understand S. Miss fans feel like they are starting over but lets also look at it in the way it actually is/was...

S.mISS OWN THE CONFERENCE early in 1.0 but after everyone caught up...

4 or 5 years in...S.Miss started falling behind most of those same schools. Smiss went from being ranked for the first 5 years of 1.0 to 2 rankings in the next 13.

So again...isn't that all on S Miss?

(06-24-2015 11:09 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 10:52 AM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 10:10 AM)VA49er Wrote:  I really hope USM regains its form for the sake of USM, as well as CUSA. I just hope USM fans don't replace ECU fans with the constant beatching regaring conference affiliation, etc. That gets old quickly.

You have to have been where they were and see what they have seen during their dark times recently to appreciate a attitude about being pisssed off about missing out. USM's miss in the last round is roughly equivalent to the circumstances surrounding ECU at the time CUSA had its first raid by the BE and ECU was left out.

Also, any USM fan from that era as well as any ECU fan would agree that CUSA 1.0-1.5 is/was a totally different ball game than what CUSA IS right now.

Well other than SMiss it took 3 years before CUSA had a ranked school in 1.0

I understand S. Miss fans feel like they are starting over but lets also look at it in the way it actually is/was...

S.mISS OWN THE CONFERENCE early in 1.0 but after everyone caught up...

4 or 5 years in...S.Miss started falling behind most of those same schools. Smiss went from being ranked for the first 5 years of 1.0 to 2 rankings in the next 13.

So again...isn't that all on S Miss?

No, because on the field performance doesn't matter. It didn't get Boise State into a real conference and it wouldn't have worked for us, either.

Shortly after the first time we beat Bama, we "applied for membership" in the ACC, whatever that means. That was in 1958, if memory serves.

(06-24-2015 10:46 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 10:10 AM)VA49er Wrote:  I really hope USM regains its form for the sake of USM, as well as CUSA. I just hope USM fans don't replace ECU fans with the constant beatching regaring conference affiliation, etc. That gets old quickly.

What gets old is you always bringing ECU in something that has nothing to do with us. Focus on Charlotte for a change and don't worry about what some other school might do. If they want to beatch and moan about conference affiliation then let them.

Y'all were insufferable at the end, though. I used to be a fan. The AAC thing cured me of that. Also, your football stadium has an obnoxious PA system. The piped-in music is, again, insufferable.

(06-24-2015 11:40 AM)AndreWhere Wrote:  Shortly after the first time we beat Bama, we "applied for membership" in the ACC, whatever that means. That was in 1958, if memory serves.

Wow, I've never heard of that before, but I'd be interested to know the details of that.

(06-24-2015 10:46 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 10:10 AM)VA49er Wrote:  I really hope USM regains its form for the sake of USM, as well as CUSA. I just hope USM fans don't replace ECU fans with the constant beatching regaring conference affiliation, etc. That gets old quickly.

What gets old is you always bringing ECU in something that has nothing to do with us. Focus on Charlotte for a change and don't worry about what some other school might do. If they want to beatch and moan about conference affiliation then let them.

Dude, I grew up about 30 minutes from ECU, have multiple family members that graduated there and have family members there now. I'll talk about ECU any time I like. Besides, not my fault some ECU fans complained the whole time ECU was in CUSA. ECU and Charlotte are in this fight together, especailly against the ACC status quo in NC.

(06-23-2015 10:52 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 09:02 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 12:35 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  All of this crying about S.Miss big wins over Bama or who ever back 10+ years ago has no bearing on any other team in CUSA back then or today other than....SMiss.

Couldn't someone ask you the same question when you post graphs and charts of what WKU did in basketball 15 years ago?

I think it's human nature to look to the distant past when the recent past has not been kind to us. And for the record, I think that what USM managed to accomplish year after year against otherwise solid P5 programs is nothing short of amazing, especially considering the resources at their disposal.

Lets see how can I put this...

NO it's nothing like anything I ever said about Western. That would be about like me blaming the SBC schools for any problem Western had. You wont find a post where I put any blame on a bad season or 2 or 3 on anyone but Western..

The SBC didn;t hold Western back, not even when basketball schools like UAB, VCU, ODU and even Tech were replaced with ULM, Troy, ASU...

Western still had chances to get to the next level of respect..we failed to do that on the court.

Now you will find where I put a lot of blame on espn but not just for Western;s problems, but for all of us when it comes to recruiting and respect.

So try again

You missed my point completely. You seem to take offense at S. Miss talking about big wins over Bama or whoever 10 years ago or more and go on to state that it has no bearing on any other team in CUSA back then or today other than....SMiss.


Along those lines, what's the relevance of you posting charts and graphs of what Western did in the year 2000? I suspect if someone said, so what, that has no bearing on any other team in CUSA back then or today other than....WKU, you'd treat us to an essay as to why it's something everyone needs to know.

Again, I not only find it impressive what USM accomplished all those years ago with limited resources, I think it's good that their fans refuse to forget and demand better of their program. We Cajun fans sat on our collective hands for far too long while our administration and athletic department accepted putrid results.

(06-24-2015 11:43 AM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 10:46 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 10:10 AM)VA49er Wrote:  I really hope USM regains its form for the sake of USM, as well as CUSA. I just hope USM fans don't replace ECU fans with the constant beatching regaring conference affiliation, etc. That gets old quickly.

What gets old is you always bringing ECU in something that has nothing to do with us. Focus on Charlotte for a change and don't worry about what some other school might do. If they want to beatch and moan about conference affiliation then let them.

Y'all were insufferable at the end, though. I used to be a fan. The AAC thing cured me of that. Also, your football stadium has an obnoxious PA system. The piped-in music is, again, insufferable.

You definitely haven't been to ECU in a long time my friend. New PA system came in with new scoreboard. Sound quality is 10x better. I guess USM doesn't pipe in music when your band isn't playing? I could of sworn all colleges and pro teams do it.

(06-24-2015 12:12 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 11:43 AM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 10:46 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 10:10 AM)VA49er Wrote:  I really hope USM regains its form for the sake of USM, as well as CUSA. I just hope USM fans don't replace ECU fans with the constant beatching regaring conference affiliation, etc. That gets old quickly.

What gets old is you always bringing ECU in something that has nothing to do with us. Focus on Charlotte for a change and don't worry about what some other school might do. If they want to beatch and moan about conference affiliation then let them.

Y'all were insufferable at the end, though. I used to be a fan. The AAC thing cured me of that. Also, your football stadium has an obnoxious PA system. The piped-in music is, again, insufferable.

You definitely haven't been to ECU in a long time my friend. New PA system came in with new scoreboard. Sound quality is 10x better. I guess USM doesn't pipe in music when your band isn't playing? I could of sworn all colleges and pro teams do it.

Yeah, I've heard it and it's loud as hell. USM pipes in music occasionally, but nothing like ECU.

(06-24-2015 12:05 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 10:46 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 10:10 AM)VA49er Wrote:  I really hope USM regains its form for the sake of USM, as well as CUSA. I just hope USM fans don't replace ECU fans with the constant beatching regaring conference affiliation, etc. That gets old quickly.

What gets old is you always bringing ECU in something that has nothing to do with us. Focus on Charlotte for a change and don't worry about what some other school might do. If they want to beatch and moan about conference affiliation then let them.

Dude, I grew up about 30 minutes from ECU, have multiple family members that graduated there and have family members there now. I'll talk about ECU any time I like. Besides, not my fault some ECU fans complained the whole time ECU was in CUSA. ECU and Charlotte are in this fight together, especailly against the ACC status quo in NC.

Yea we do have a fight together against the ACC, but if USM still wants to complain then let them. Isn't this thread about them anyway?

(06-24-2015 12:17 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 12:12 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 11:43 AM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 10:46 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 10:10 AM)VA49er Wrote:  I really hope USM regains its form for the sake of USM, as well as CUSA. I just hope USM fans don't replace ECU fans with the constant beatching regaring conference affiliation, etc. That gets old quickly.

What gets old is you always bringing ECU in something that has nothing to do with us. Focus on Charlotte for a change and don't worry about what some other school might do. If they want to beatch and moan about conference affiliation then let them.

Y'all were insufferable at the end, though. I used to be a fan. The AAC thing cured me of that. Also, your football stadium has an obnoxious PA system. The piped-in music is, again, insufferable.

You definitely haven't been to ECU in a long time my friend. New PA system came in with new scoreboard. Sound quality is 10x better. I guess USM doesn't pipe in music when your band isn't playing? I could of sworn all colleges and pro teams do it.

Yeah, I've heard it and it's loud as hell. USM pipes in music occasionally, but nothing like ECU.

Didn't realize folks kept count on piped in music. Who knew?

(06-23-2015 10:59 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  S. Miss is closer to the schools in the conference today than when TCU and UofL played in CUSA. S.Miss was like the cheapest house in a middle class neighborhood... other words the "white trash" that the rest were trying to get away from. No matter how clean they kept the yard or no matter how many games they won to show they belonged...

to the rest of the neighbors they didn't.

I don't know anyone from Cusa 1.0 who has expressed anything remotely like that regarding USM. Teams like Memphis and Tulane have had longstanding rivalries with USM, in the case of Memphis going back 63 games since 1935.

(06-24-2015 12:23 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 10:59 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  S. Miss is closer to the schools in the conference today than when TCU and UofL played in CUSA. S.Miss was like the cheapest house in a middle class neighborhood... other words the "white trash" that the rest were trying to get away from. No matter how clean they kept the yard or no matter how many games they won to show they belonged...

to the rest of the neighbors they didn't.

I don't know anyone from Cusa 1.0 who has expressed anything remotely like that regarding USM. Teams like Memphis and Tulane have had longstanding rivalries with USM, in the case of Memphis going back 63 games since 1935.

Same as with ECU. First game against USM was back in 1951. Got crushed 0-40. I wish we would of won some of those games. USM completely owned us.

(06-24-2015 12:21 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 12:17 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 12:12 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 11:43 AM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 10:46 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  What gets old is you always bringing ECU in something that has nothing to do with us. Focus on Charlotte for a change and don't worry about what some other school might do. If they want to beatch and moan about conference affiliation then let them.

Y'all were insufferable at the end, though. I used to be a fan. The AAC thing cured me of that. Also, your football stadium has an obnoxious PA system. The piped-in music is, again, insufferable.

You definitely haven't been to ECU in a long time my friend. New PA system came in with new scoreboard. Sound quality is 10x better. I guess USM doesn't pipe in music when your band isn't playing? I could of sworn all colleges and pro teams do it.

Yeah, I've heard it and it's loud as hell. USM pipes in music occasionally, but nothing like ECU.

Didn't realize folks kept count on piped in music. Who knew?

I think most Americans just take it for granted, but it annoys the crap out of me. It's everywhere... gas stations, train platforms, etc. I even watched my wife have a C-section to a soundtrack of Adult Contemporary. The American tolerance for the absurd has apparently grown beyond what I would have thought possible.

Maybe it's a NOLA thing, too. I hear Saints fans complain about the PA all the time, at games and on talk radio.

Worst decision ever was when USM miked up the (male) head cheerleader. If I wanted to get yelled at by some closet case, I'd go to church.

(06-24-2015 12:39 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 12:21 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 12:17 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 12:12 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 11:43 AM)AndreWhere Wrote:  Y'all were insufferable at the end, though. I used to be a fan. The AAC thing cured me of that. Also, your football stadium has an obnoxious PA system. The piped-in music is, again, insufferable.

You definitely haven't been to ECU in a long time my friend. New PA system came in with new scoreboard. Sound quality is 10x better. I guess USM doesn't pipe in music when your band isn't playing? I could of sworn all colleges and pro teams do it.

Yeah, I've heard it and it's loud as hell. USM pipes in music occasionally, but nothing like ECU.

Didn't realize folks kept count on piped in music. Who knew?

I think most Americans just take it for granted, but it annoys the crap out of me. It's everywhere... gas stations, train platforms, etc. I even watched my wife have a C-section to a soundtrack of Adult Contemporary. The American tolerance for the absurd has apparently grown beyond what I would have thought possible.

Maybe it's a NOLA thing, too. I hear Saints fans complain about the PA all the time, at games and on talk radio.

Worst decision ever was when USM miked up the (male) head cheerleader. If I wanted to get yelled at by some closet case, I'd go to church.

(06-24-2015 09:17 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 08:25 AM)MasMack Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 10:59 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  It gets tiresome reading how CUSA is the biggest thing holding S. Miss back....

NEWSFLASH! if S Miss was doing their part, like they did when UofL and TCU played in CUSA...this conference would be the best of the G5. So really it's the other way around...S. MISS is the one letting the rest of us down. If you put a 0-12 or 1-11 S. Miss in the same make up as when UofL played in CUSA...it brings CUSA 1.0 down also.

So it's time to stop blaming others and get your own house in order...there's not one of us that hasn't made a bad hire. It's how you pull yourself up after that that makes a program.

But lets clear the air on something...


S. Miss is closer to the schools in the conference today than when TCU and UofL played in CUSA. S.Miss was like the cheapest house in a middle class neighborhood... other words the "white trash" that the rest were trying to get away from. No matter how clean they kept the yard or no matter how many games they won to show they belonged...

to the rest of the neighbors they didn't.

None of that belongs at the doorstep of any school in CUSA today. Nope it belongs to S. Miss just as it did in the 90s, 2000s. The rest of us are trying to make this the best conference in the G5...

that ceiling is the same today just as it was in the years UofL and TCU played in it. No matter who tries to revise the history...CUSA was ALWAYS on the outside looking in.

You have issues, and absolutely no clue what you are talking about when it comes to USM, or CUSA.

Grow up and move along. Your a hypocrite, talking about whiny USM fans, as you write you 10th rant on a single issue.

Well that was my 3rd post on the issue and one of those was a response to someone else. I think I understand it more than you do and a lot clearer...

some S Miss fans want to blame everyone and anything but they dont want to look in the mirror. It gets old reading how UNT, Middle, Western, FAU are some of the reasons S. Miss can't win games.

In realty that's part of the problem but it's because today there's more school;s getting more of those kids that the P5 can't take or over look. Not because uofl left 11 years ago. For some S. Miss fans uofl must have been the trophy wife and some of you just can't let go...it's been 11 freaking years. So move on!

There's not many of us (if any) that wouldn't like S Miss to get back to winning. To most of us S.Miss's history hasn't done anything for us...

but drag the conference down. That's the fact of the matter..for most of us. Yet every few months we get the..whinny brat to tell us how good CUSA was and how the rest of us are part of S. Miss's problems and why they can't win.

EVERY loss is on S. Miss not any of us...all of us went through coaching changes. Some 3 or 4 with in the last 6 years. Some went from a spread to the west coast and back to a spread...Western had 4 coaches in the last 6 years.

So as far as growing up and not ranting...

just as soon as these whinny articles stop blaming the rest of us. Because most of us didn't get the benefit from S. Miss beating Bama or winning 10 games. Yet we seem to be the reason you are losing

Don't sit there and act like this is your only time complaining about this. I'm not talking about just this thread. There has been multiple threads you have acted like a big baby.

You are reading way to much into some of the comments made. Move along.

(06-24-2015 12:09 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 10:52 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 09:02 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 12:35 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  All of this crying about S.Miss big wins over Bama or who ever back 10+ years ago has no bearing on any other team in CUSA back then or today other than....SMiss.

Couldn't someone ask you the same question when you post graphs and charts of what WKU did in basketball 15 years ago?

I think it's human nature to look to the distant past when the recent past has not been kind to us. And for the record, I think that what USM managed to accomplish year after year against otherwise solid P5 programs is nothing short of amazing, especially considering the resources at their disposal.

Lets see how can I put this...

NO it's nothing like anything I ever said about Western. That would be about like me blaming the SBC schools for any problem Western had. You wont find a post where I put any blame on a bad season or 2 or 3 on anyone but Western..

The SBC didn;t hold Western back, not even when basketball schools like UAB, VCU, ODU and even Tech were replaced with ULM, Troy, ASU...

Western still had chances to get to the next level of respect..we failed to do that on the court.

Now you will find where I put a lot of blame on espn but not just for Western;s problems, but for all of us when it comes to recruiting and respect.

So try again

You missed my point completely. You seem to take offense at S. Miss talking about big wins over Bama or whoever 10 years ago or more and go on to state that it has no bearing on any other team in CUSA back then or today other than....SMiss.


Along those lines, what's the relevance of you posting charts and graphs of what Western did in the year 2000? I suspect if someone said, so what, that has no bearing on any other team in CUSA back then or today other than....WKU, you'd treat us to an essay as to why it's something everyone needs to know.

Again, I not only find it impressive what USM accomplished all those years ago with limited resources, I think it's good that their fans refuse to forget and demand better of their program. We Cajun fans sat on our collective hands for far too long while our administration and athletic department accepted putrid results.

who said S. MISS fans should forget? not me. Everyone should embrace their history and be proud of it if thats called for with on the court or field results.

They didn't beat Bama or any other school because of CUSA 1.0 OR 1.5 OR WHAT EVER. jUST AS THEY CAN'T put the fault on the members of CUSA today.

Its one thing to embrace your past it's another to try and revise the history of it. That history shows S. MISS was going down hill way before CUSA started changing members.

Sure they still won but when you go from being ranked for 5 years to being ranked twice in the next 13....

its on you

Especially when other schools, even schools with a lot less history passes you up...like Cincy and ECU and UofL.

Now what does UofL AND cINCY HAVE IN COMMON? Great basketball programs and the pimping of espn because of that. In this day of 24/7 the espn pimping wipes out history as far as recruits are concern.

Now that Cincy and UofL HAS WENT DIFFERENT WAYS...WATCH cINCY FALL and quickly.