Heard over the weekend that Mike Taylor has taken one of the full time assistants jobs at Baylor. I wonder of the impact that will have on UH (and on Baylor for that matter). I'm sure Mike's looking forward to being paid as a full time assistant.

This could be great for Rice too. It hurts UH and it puts Taylor in position to rehab his career even further, giving him a greater springboard for the Rice job when Graham steps down.

You've done a great job producing top notch HC talent, as Whitting and Pierce are both doing phenomenal jobs building their programs. The ship has sailed on either of those guys being interested in the Rice job but its a logical jump for an Assistant in the Big 12 to skipper a CUSA program. The past will be water under the bridge, imo.

(06-23-2015 01:39 AM)BoKnows Wrote:  This could be great for Rice too. It hurts UH and it puts Taylor in position to rehab his career even further, giving him a greater springboard for the Rice job when Graham steps down.

You've done a great job producing top notch HC talent, as Whitting and Pierce are both doing phenomenal jobs building their programs. The ship has sailed on either of those guys being interested in the Rice job but its a logical jump for an Assistant in the Big 12 to skipper a CUSA program. The past will be water under the bridge, imo.

Can you PLEASE stop posting about things you know absolutely nothing about? First off, given the circumstances surrounding his departure, there is no chance Taylor would ever be considered for a future job at Rice. Second, I would not preclude Pierce from returning to Rice at some point; it all depends how long Coach Graham decides to remain in his position.

(06-23-2015 07:12 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 01:39 AM)BoKnows Wrote:  This could be great for Rice too. It hurts UH and it puts Taylor in position to rehab his career even further, giving him a greater springboard for the Rice job when Graham steps down.

You've done a great job producing top notch HC talent, as Whitting and Pierce are both doing phenomenal jobs building their programs. The ship has sailed on either of those guys being interested in the Rice job but its a logical jump for an Assistant in the Big 12 to skipper a CUSA program. The past will be water under the bridge, imo.

Can you PLEASE stop posting about things you know absolutely nothing about? First off, given the circumstances surrounding his departure, there is no chance Taylor would ever be considered for a future job at Rice. Second, I would not preclude Pierce from returning to Rice at some point; it all depends how long Coach Graham decides to remain in his position.

How about everybody stops responding to him?

(06-23-2015 09:14 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 07:12 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 01:39 AM)BoKnows Wrote:  This could be great for Rice too. It hurts UH and it puts Taylor in position to rehab his career even further, giving him a greater springboard for the Rice job when Graham steps down.

You've done a great job producing top notch HC talent, as Whitting and Pierce are both doing phenomenal jobs building their programs. The ship has sailed on either of those guys being interested in the Rice job but its a logical jump for an Assistant in the Big 12 to skipper a CUSA program. The past will be water under the bridge, imo.

Can you PLEASE stop posting about things you know absolutely nothing about? First off, given the circumstances surrounding his departure, there is no chance Taylor would ever be considered for a future job at Rice. Second, I would not preclude Pierce from returning to Rice at some point; it all depends how long Coach Graham decides to remain in his position.

How about everybody stops responding to him?

+1000 Especially for the threads that he starts.

(06-23-2015 07:12 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 01:39 AM)BoKnows Wrote:  This could be great for Rice too. It hurts UH and it puts Taylor in position to rehab his career even further, giving him a greater springboard for the Rice job when Graham steps down.

You've done a great job producing top notch HC talent, as Whitting and Pierce are both doing phenomenal jobs building their programs. The ship has sailed on either of those guys being interested in the Rice job but its a logical jump for an Assistant in the Big 12 to skipper a CUSA program. The past will be water under the bridge, imo.

Can you PLEASE stop posting about things you know absolutely nothing about? First off, given the circumstances surrounding his departure, there is no chance Taylor would ever be considered for a future job at Rice. Second, I would not preclude Pierce from returning to Rice at some point; it all depends how long Coach Graham decides to remain in his position.

You may be right, but I just don't see Pierce leaving Tulane - a school with a baseball tradition that rivals Rice (not to mention at a top-notch academic institution) - for Rice. At his press conference - after the selection show - he pretty much said he's not going anywhere for awhile.

I think it'll take a lot of stars aligning for Pierce to hit the restart button and return to Rice. Who knows what our TV deal with yield? The AAC will be renegotiating their TV deal in the not too distant future as well (WITH ESPN), and I have to think that baseball (given their success this year) will be a notable part of their ESPN package.

That said, what will the media presentation for CUSA baseball look like in comparison?

I don't think we're dealing with apples-to-apples. They're playing UCONN, Houston, ECU, USF, UCF, Memphis..

Will Pierce trade that for FAU, Southern Miss, etc? I'd like to think so... but we definitely have to start getting our RPI up.

And, I'll acknowledge, that it isn't as tall of an order as it is for us all in football, where we are so short on tradition....

That being said, WE JUST NEED TIME. The ceiling (potential) has never been higher, but we need to build.




It's mainly perception we're dealing with... but perception drives our contracts. Hopefully, that doesn't matter to Pierce.

And, for the record, never say never when it comes to hiring practices in college sports..

Case in point, Louisville just rehired Petrino.

When looking at it through that lens, Taylor coming back to Rice doesn't look so far fetched. I think the fans would see it as the prodigal son returning. He may just be the man for Rice.

(06-23-2015 11:06 AM)BoKnows Wrote:  And, for the record, never say never when it comes to hiring practices in college sports..

Case in point, Louisville just rehired Petrino.

Did you just compare Louisville's ethics with Rice's?

(06-23-2015 11:06 AM)BoKnows Wrote:  And, for the record, never say never when it comes to hiring practices in college sports..

Case in point, Louisville just rehired Petrino.

When looking at it through that lens, Taylor coming back to Rice doesn't look so far fetched. I think the fans would see it as the prodigal son returning. He may just be the man for Rice.

0% chance that ever happens. Zero. Go away.

(06-23-2015 01:32 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 11:06 AM)BoKnows Wrote:  And, for the record, never say never when it comes to hiring practices in college sports..

Case in point, Louisville just rehired Petrino.

When looking at it through that lens, Taylor coming back to Rice doesn't look so far fetched. I think the fans would see it as the prodigal son returning. He may just be the man for Rice.

0% chance that ever happens. Zero. Go away.

Apparently I am the only Rice fan who does not know the background story. What happened?

(06-24-2015 12:51 PM)Ranger Wrote:  Apparently I am the only Rice fan who does not know the background story. What happened?

Second this

(06-24-2015 12:51 PM)Ranger Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 01:32 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 11:06 AM)BoKnows Wrote:  And, for the record, never say never when it comes to hiring practices in college sports..

Case in point, Louisville just rehired Petrino.

When looking at it through that lens, Taylor coming back to Rice doesn't look so far fetched. I think the fans would see it as the prodigal son returning. He may just be the man for Rice.

0% chance that ever happens. Zero. Go away.

Apparently I am the only Rice fan who does not know the background story. What happened?

Otter: What's the difference? Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our female party guests—we did. [winks at Dean Wormer] But you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick perverted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, Greg: isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do what you you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!
(Leads the Deltas out of the hearing, all humming the Star-Spangled Banner)

Greg: Order!

Dean Wormer: You're not walking out of this one, mister! You're finished! No more Delta! You've bought it this time, buster! I'm calling your national office! I'm going to revoke your charter! And if you wise guys try one more thing, one more, I'm going to kick you out of college!

(06-24-2015 12:51 PM)Ranger Wrote:  Apparently I am the only Rice fan who does not know the background story. What happened?

A major donor was very mad. The mere hint of any further details enrages people. Very polarizing issue. Ex-players have strong opinions on it too.

I agree that he will never be back at Rice.

Taylor was the unnamed HCIW at Rice.

Perhaps Rice would benefit by naming a HCIW right now. Losing out on Pierce and Whitting as successors is looking like a really bad deal.

Perhaps you name a Patrick Hallmark (current AC) HCIW now, or Lance Berkman (legend, with a name), or even someone like a Rayner Noble (still a young guy, who really got the Houston program going... KNOWS CUSA), and stabilize that program.

Seeing those 3 new coaches go to the AAC last year (at Tulane, ECU, and USF) and LIFT that conference to #3 lets you know there are good coaches out there.

I just hate to see Rice lose Taylor over some off-the-field nonsense. It's tough to swallow that none of those 3 guys (Taylor, Pierce, and Whitting) will carry Wayne's baton. Those ships have sailed. You gotta make some kind of plan.

1. Whitting was never, ever in line for the Rice head coaching job.

2. As mentioned before, given the prominence of the Rice program and the fertile Houston recruiting pool, there will be no shortage of highly qualified candidates for the Rice job whenever The OG decides to retire.

3. As mentioned before, unless Wayne departs within the next year or two, Coach Pierce would still be a very viable option, and I'd be shocked if he wouldn't be very interested in it.

4. I know others may disagree with me, but I very much doubt Taylor was ever HCIW. IMO, and from everything I've heard, Pierce was considerably higher on the pecking order. Second, Taylor's departure was anything but off-the-field "nonsense"; rather, it was quite serious, and would have had him dismissed or fired from any management job in any company or corporation in America.

Any chance you place an "imho" in a couple of places in the above quote? Also, why feed the troll? He obviously is picking at an open wound. Ignore him.

The troll is so far from understanding anything that he is not even worth paying attention to his comments. It should be obvious to anyone who knows that we will not be interested in Noble or Taylor. We might be interested in Berkman after he gets experience at Second Baptist and maybe elsewhere. The job will be one of the top jobs available when it becomes open so we could get someone from elsewhere.

(07-01-2015 06:13 PM)13thOwl Wrote:  Any chance you place an "imho" in a couple of places in the above quote? Also, why feed the troll? He obviously is picking at an open wound. Ignore him.

(07-01-2015 06:13 PM)13thOwl Wrote:  Any chance you place an "imho" in a couple of places in the above quote? Also, why feed the troll? He obviously is picking at an open wound. Ignore him.

The ignore button works quite well when needed.

(07-01-2015 06:28 PM)75src Wrote:  It should be obvious to anyone who knows that we will not be interested in Noble or Taylor. We might be interested in Berkman after he gets experience at Second Baptist and maybe elsewhere. The job will be one of the top jobs available when it becomes open so we could get someone from elsewhere.

Never say never. Noble seems to be doing a good job rehabbing his reputation at Second Baptist and he looks good in blue. He is a Houston guy. He did a hell of a job with Brad Lincoln. His resume looks a lot more impressive than David Bailiff's did when Rice hired him!
To expect Rice to poach a coach from a school like Tulane, with their tradition and likely bump in resources with ESPN, is a bit wishful thinking, imho.

Noble????? His greatest use to Rice was being at UH!