(06-24-2015 09:29 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 08:05 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  ESPN only cares about the Top 25. If you're a middle or lower rung P5 school, you aren't much better off than the G5.

I doubt ESPiN wants to include that many. They always discuss the same few schools, whether those schools are ranked or not.

The unexpected entry into the list is always highlighted until they fall off the map. But it's the same few all the time, with the occasional token mention of someone not among the favored few.

I'm guessing you mean talking about Boise, Ohio St, Oregon, TCU, LSU, Alabama, Oklahoma, USC, Wisconsin, Texas. Oh guess what. Those 10 schools are the top 10 teams in the last 10 years by winning percentage. what school do you say they discuss that's not on that list?

(06-25-2015 11:06 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 09:29 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 08:05 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  ESPN only cares about the Top 25. If you're a middle or lower rung P5 school, you aren't much better off than the G5.

I doubt ESPiN wants to include that many. They always discuss the same few schools, whether those schools are ranked or not.

The unexpected entry into the list is always highlighted until they fall off the map. But it's the same few all the time, with the occasional token mention of someone not among the favored few.

I'm guessing you mean talking about Boise, Ohio St, Oregon, TCU, LSU, Alabama, Oklahoma, USC, Wisconsin, Texas. Oh guess what. Those 10 schools are the top 10 teams in the last 10 years by winning percentage. what school do you say they discuss that's not on that list?

You have absolutely no clue as to what I'm saying. Do you? Your knee jerk reactions are going to cause you trouble one day.

ESPiN wants to talk about the top 10 - period. Although it depends on which schools are in the top 10 as to how much publicity they get.

You seem to think this is about schools. Well, it is - in an offhand way. But it's more about numbers. With only 10, they have far less work to do, and they give fans enough to make 'em think that reading is worth the effort.

I haven't watched any of the filler or fluff shows they put on to "analyze" or "break down" college football (by which they mean, fill air time) in quite some time, but it appears they'll talk about you if you're P5 or if you're ranked, especially if in top 20. Or if you have a Heisman candidate. Many MAC fans complained that E$PN announcers would talk about other games while they were announcing a MAC game. And at halftime, the halftime show wouldn't mention the game itself but move immediately to other "more important" games. In a way this sort of thing does reinforce the viewers' impressions of which games are important and which aren't.

Last year I turned on a "College Football Preview" show on one of the major networks - ABC or something, and it just gave a rundown of each of the P5 conferences. No mention of any G5 schools or conferences. So that's the last time I'll turn on something like that, what a waste.

(06-27-2015 05:38 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  I haven't watched any of the filler or fluff shows they put on to "analyze" or "break down" college football (by which they mean, fill air time) in quite some time, but it appears they'll talk about you if you're P5 or if you're ranked, especially if in top 20. Or if you have a Heisman candidate. Many MAC fans complained that E$PN announcers would talk about other games while they were announcing a MAC game. And at halftime, the halftime show wouldn't mention the game itself but move immediately to other "more important" games. In a way this sort of thing does reinforce the viewers' impressions of which games are important and which aren't.

Last year I turned on a "College Football Preview" show on one of the major networks - ABC or something, and it just gave a rundown of each of the P5 conferences. No mention of any G5 schools or conferences. So that's the last time I'll turn on something like that, what a waste.

No question, ESPN behaves as you describe. And that is what real exposure means. They will talk about that night's FSU - Notre Dame game in the middle of an NIU - Ohio game.

Unfortunately, G5 fans burying their heads and refusing to watch such coverage doesn't change that reality.

(06-27-2015 07:41 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-27-2015 05:38 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  I haven't watched any of the filler or fluff shows they put on to "analyze" or "break down" college football (by which they mean, fill air time) in quite some time, but it appears they'll talk about you if you're P5 or if you're ranked, especially if in top 20. Or if you have a Heisman candidate. Many MAC fans complained that E$PN announcers would talk about other games while they were announcing a MAC game. And at halftime, the halftime show wouldn't mention the game itself but move immediately to other "more important" games. In a way this sort of thing does reinforce the viewers' impressions of which games are important and which aren't.

Last year I turned on a "College Football Preview" show on one of the major networks - ABC or something, and it just gave a rundown of each of the P5 conferences. No mention of any G5 schools or conferences. So that's the last time I'll turn on something like that, what a waste.

No question, ESPN behaves as you describe. And that is what real exposure means. They will talk about that night's FSU - Notre Dame game in the middle of an NIU - Ohio game.

Unfortunately, G5 fans burying their heads and refusing to watch such coverage doesn't change that reality.

Lately it's been better for NIU games, since they're able to talk about how NIU has so many wins in the last 5 years or whatever. It helps keep them from drifting off onto something else. But we don't have a Heisman candidate for them to talk about and haven't been ranked recently so they probably don't discuss us much anymore on the filler shows.

(06-22-2015 07:26 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 05:41 PM)jrj84105 Wrote:  Because the game was played in a baseball park, both benches were on the same side of the field with the Memphis band/fans largely behind the BYU bench. Memphis players basically had to walk over to the BYU bench to celebrate in front of fans. BYU players started throwing punches which Memphis players returned. Culminated in a blindside back of the head sucker punch from a BYU player who had been knocked the **** out earlier.

False. The Memphis players escalated it from a simple shove to fists and a brawl. Do you really need to lie about your rivals?

Well said. This was an ugly, ugly day for BYU football discipline, and something that Ute fans have been happy to pounce on. However, both teams were in on the fight, and both Universities have taken steps to make sure such incidents don't happen going forward.

(06-30-2015 09:20 AM)HawkeyeCoug Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 07:26 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 05:41 PM)jrj84105 Wrote:  Because the game was played in a baseball park, both benches were on the same side of the field with the Memphis band/fans largely behind the BYU bench. Memphis players basically had to walk over to the BYU bench to celebrate in front of fans. BYU players started throwing punches which Memphis players returned. Culminated in a blindside back of the head sucker punch from a BYU player who had been knocked the **** out earlier.

False. The Memphis players escalated it from a simple shove to fists and a brawl. Do you really need to lie about your rivals?

Well said. This was an ugly, ugly day for BYU football discipline, and something that Ute fans have been happy to pounce on. However, both teams were in on the fight, and both Universities have taken steps to make sure such incidents don't happen going forward.

I thought both schools were showing that they belong in the p-5 with the other thugs?

(06-30-2015 09:38 AM)Okielite Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 09:20 AM)HawkeyeCoug Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 07:26 PM)bullet Wrote:  False. The Memphis players escalated it from a simple shove to fists and a brawl. Do you really need to lie about your rivals?

Well said. This was an ugly, ugly day for BYU football discipline, and something that Ute fans have been happy to pounce on. However, both teams were in on the fight, and both Universities have taken steps to make sure such incidents don't happen going forward.

I thought both schools were showing that they belong in the p-5 with the other thugs?

I think it did buy us some street cred. Looks like we won't be recruiting choir boys any more.

(06-25-2015 05:30 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 11:06 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 09:29 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 08:05 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  ESPN only cares about the Top 25. If you're a middle or lower rung P5 school, you aren't much better off than the G5.

I doubt ESPiN wants to include that many. They always discuss the same few schools, whether those schools are ranked or not.

The unexpected entry into the list is always highlighted until they fall off the map. But it's the same few all the time, with the occasional token mention of someone not among the favored few.

I'm guessing you mean talking about Boise, Ohio St, Oregon, TCU, LSU, Alabama, Oklahoma, USC, Wisconsin, Texas. Oh guess what. Those 10 schools are the top 10 teams in the last 10 years by winning percentage. what school do you say they discuss that's not on that list?

You have absolutely no clue as to what I'm saying. Do you? Your knee jerk reactions are going to cause you trouble one day.

ESPiN wants to talk about the top 10 - period. Although it depends on which schools are in the top 10 as to how much publicity they get.

You seem to think this is about schools. Well, it is - in an offhand way. But it's more about numbers. With only 10, they have far less work to do, and they give fans enough to make 'em think that reading is worth the effort.

My point is the same schools are in the top 10 year after year after year. You said "They always discuss the same few schools, whether those schools are ranked or not." My point is those same few schools that they discuss have been ranked year in year out. They are discussing them a lot because they have been really good every year. Not because they are the anointed few. Look at Oklahoma. Last year they fell off and really after October didn't get much discussion at all.