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RE: Fresno State wants to net $1 million/year from its non-con football games
yeah no chance that the NCAA would even think of mandating either of those idiotic standards.
06-22-2015 01:37 PM
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RE: Fresno State wants to net $1 million/year from its non-con football games
(06-22-2015 01:34 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(06-22-2015 08:33 AM)goofus Wrote:  The more I read stories like this, the more I think it should be mandated that P5 schools should play at least 11 games against other P5 schools and typically only have 6 home games a year.
Who would enforce such a mandate?

The P5 leagues -- and not just them -- would instantly withdraw from the NCAA if the NCAA tried to enforce something like that.

The P5 conferences themselves will mandate it. Just like there are new proposals now like the Big Ten mandating no more FCS games or the SEC mandating at least 1 OOC game against a P5 opponent. It just won't change overnight and will happen gradually.

I can see the Big Ten or PAC-12 leading the way on this. They have already gone to 9 conference games, some day it will be upped to 10 conference games. At that point P5 teams that average less than 50k attendance will probably just go to 6 home games a year. 10 conference games plus a couple of home and away series against other P5 teams. maybe 1 buy game every 2 years.
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RE: Fresno State wants to net $1 million/year from its non-con football games
(06-22-2015 04:13 PM)goofus Wrote:  
(06-22-2015 01:34 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(06-22-2015 08:33 AM)goofus Wrote:  The more I read stories like this, the more I think it should be mandated that P5 schools should play at least 11 games against other P5 schools and typically only have 6 home games a year.
Who would enforce such a mandate?

The P5 leagues -- and not just them -- would instantly withdraw from the NCAA if the NCAA tried to enforce something like that.

The P5 conferences themselves will mandate it. Just like there are new proposals now like the Big Ten mandating no more FCS games or the SEC mandating at least 1 OOC game against a P5 opponent. It just won't change overnight and will happen gradually.

I can see the Big Ten or PAC-12 leading the way on this. They have already gone to 9 conference games, some day it will be upped to 10 conference games. At that point P5 teams that average less than 50k attendance will probably just go to 6 home games a year. 10 conference games plus a couple of home and away series against other P5 teams. maybe 1 buy game every 2 years.

10 conference games will only happen if the TV guys tell a P5 conference, "We'll pay you a lot more for 10 conference games and 2 non-con games than for 9 conference games and 3 non-con games." If the extra money is not there, then a program like Indiana is going to be reluctant to take Ball State or FIU off of their football schedule and replace them with another Nebraska/Wisconsin/Iowa game, and that's the effect on Indiana if the Big Ten starts playing 10 conference games.
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RE: Fresno State wants to net $1 million/year from its non-con football games
(06-22-2015 10:15 AM)stever20 Wrote:  they're not going to have 5 OOC games to schedule. We are not going to 13 football games. If there had been a chance, it would have been tested the last 2 years where we had 14 weeks to play 12 games.

You see, you should have asked how they would get 5 ooc games rather than making an assumption because obviously you are responding to my post without quoting it.

They get to 5 ooc games by being part of a 20 team AAC that has four divisions of five teams each. That is four games in division and one against every other division for 7 games. With a 12 game schedule that means they have 5 ooc games to help make up for what they get paid in the AAC.
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RE: Fresno State wants to net $1 million/year from its non-con football games
(06-22-2015 05:33 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(06-22-2015 04:13 PM)goofus Wrote:  
(06-22-2015 01:34 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(06-22-2015 08:33 AM)goofus Wrote:  The more I read stories like this, the more I think it should be mandated that P5 schools should play at least 11 games against other P5 schools and typically only have 6 home games a year.
Who would enforce such a mandate?

The P5 leagues -- and not just them -- would instantly withdraw from the NCAA if the NCAA tried to enforce something like that.

The P5 conferences themselves will mandate it. Just like there are new proposals now like the Big Ten mandating no more FCS games or the SEC mandating at least 1 OOC game against a P5 opponent. It just won't change overnight and will happen gradually.

I can see the Big Ten or PAC-12 leading the way on this. They have already gone to 9 conference games, some day it will be upped to 10 conference games. At that point P5 teams that average less than 50k attendance will probably just go to 6 home games a year. 10 conference games plus a couple of home and away series against other P5 teams. maybe 1 buy game every 2 years.

10 conference games will only happen if the TV guys tell a P5 conference, "We'll pay you a lot more for 10 conference games and 2 non-con games than for 9 conference games and 3 non-con games." If the extra money is not there, then a program like Indiana is going to be reluctant to take Ball State or FIU off of their football schedule and replace them with another Nebraska/Wisconsin/Iowa game, and that's the effect on Indiana if the Big Ten starts playing 10 conference games.


That only happens when some of the top rating G5 schools get into a P5 conference. There is no way that the networks want the P5 to drop a school like Boise State since Boise State draws more viewers than the sorriest teams like Washington State. P5 do need to have the best teams to play or their product will hurt their bottom line.
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H1, we aren't going to 4 divisions. It's your pie in the sky scenario, and it's just not coming any time soon.
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(06-22-2015 06:28 PM)stever20 Wrote:  H1, we aren't going to 4 divisions. It's your pie in the sky scenario, and it's just not coming any time soon.

Yes we are and no it isn't. It's coming sooner than you think, obviously. Sorry, but your word isn't better than mine. Mine is proven to be the best here when it comes to saying something is going to happen and then it actually happens, especially in comparison to you.

Keep trying though, maybe someday you will be correct. Not likely though if you make it a habit of simply being contrarian in regards to what I put forward.
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