Johnathan Holmes - Texas

In today's NBA he is a perfect "new age" 4 ... he has some stuff he needs to work on (as does every late 1st round rookie) but I think he can be a solid stretch 4 - a poor man's Draymond Green.

Who do you think we should draft?

BPA unless it's another shooting guard. Hopefully we can move up and take Hollis Jefferson. I think First Team All D could net us a higher pick.

(06-18-2015 12:19 PM)spankadelphia Wrote:  BPA unless it's another shooting guard. Hopefully we can move up and take Hollis Jefferson. I think First Team All D could net us a higher pick.

If your suggesting trading tony you have lost your mind.

I think Grizz should draft a big. Need a backup center anyways so why not get one on the draft

I like Jerian Grant, Montrelz Harrell, Delon Wright, or Terry Rozier,

(06-18-2015 02:32 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 12:19 PM)spankadelphia Wrote:  BPA unless it's another shooting guard. Hopefully we can move up and take Hollis Jefferson. I think First Team All D could net us a higher pick.

If your suggesting trading tony you have lost your mind.

I think Grizz should draft a big. Need a backup center anyways so why not get one on the draft

Dudes aging and his trade value is probably high right now. You guys talk as if TA is a Hall of Famer or something. He isnt indispensable

The Grizzlies have had a horrible history of drafting players, so whoever you think they will get....they will get the complete opposite.

I have ZERO faith that they know what they are doing when it comes to the draft

(06-20-2015 09:16 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 02:32 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 12:19 PM)spankadelphia Wrote:  BPA unless it's another shooting guard. Hopefully we can move up and take Hollis Jefferson. I think First Team All D could net us a higher pick.

If your suggesting trading tony you have lost your mind.

I think Grizz should draft a big. Need a backup center anyways so why not get one on the draft

Dudes aging and his trade value is probably high right now. You guys talk as if TA is a Hall of Famer or something. He isnt indispensable

Again anyone suggesting to trade Tony is just flat out crazy. You don't trade an important piece to your team just to move up in a draft. Just like last year when the whole talk of trading tony for chase budinger. It's just crazy.

Also you trade of Tony would be an absolute PR nightmare.

Nobody has ever said Tony is a hall of famer. What most do realize though is Tony is the identity and heart and soul of this teams defense.

You don't win championships trading key pieces to your team

(06-20-2015 10:06 PM)gotigers1 Wrote:  The Grizzlies have had a horrible history of drafting players, so whoever you think they will get....they will get the complete opposite.

I have ZERO faith that they know what they are doing when it comes to the draft

This new group had really had one true draft and they did a good job last year

(06-20-2015 11:38 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(06-20-2015 09:16 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 02:32 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 12:19 PM)spankadelphia Wrote:  BPA unless it's another shooting guard. Hopefully we can move up and take Hollis Jefferson. I think First Team All D could net us a higher pick.

If your suggesting trading tony you have lost your mind.

I think Grizz should draft a big. Need a backup center anyways so why not get one on the draft

Dudes aging and his trade value is probably high right now. You guys talk as if TA is a Hall of Famer or something. He isnt indispensable

Again anyone suggesting to trade Tony is just flat out crazy. You don't trade an important piece to your team just to move up in a draft. Just like last year when the whole talk of trading tony for chase budinger. It's just crazy.

Also you trade of Tony would be an absolute PR nightmare.

Nobody has ever said Tony is a hall of famer. What most do realize though is Tony is the identity and heart and soul of this teams defense.

You don't win championships trading key pieces to your team

The Spurs traded George Hill to move up to draft Leonard. It happens all the time. And the second part of your post has nothing to do with basketball. You cant let personal feelings and attachments effect personnel decisions

(06-21-2015 09:11 AM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(06-20-2015 11:38 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(06-20-2015 09:16 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 02:32 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 12:19 PM)spankadelphia Wrote:  BPA unless it's another shooting guard. Hopefully we can move up and take Hollis Jefferson. I think First Team All D could net us a higher pick.

If your suggesting trading tony you have lost your mind.

I think Grizz should draft a big. Need a backup center anyways so why not get one on the draft

Dudes aging and his trade value is probably high right now. You guys talk as if TA is a Hall of Famer or something. He isnt indispensable

Again anyone suggesting to trade Tony is just flat out crazy. You don't trade an important piece to your team just to move up in a draft. Just like last year when the whole talk of trading tony for chase budinger. It's just crazy.

Also you trade of Tony would be an absolute PR nightmare.

Nobody has ever said Tony is a hall of famer. What most do realize though is Tony is the identity and heart and soul of this teams defense.

You don't win championships trading key pieces to your team

The Spurs traded George Hill to move up to draft Leonard. It happens all the time. And the second part of your post has nothing to do with basketball. You cant let personal feelings and attachments effect personnel decisions

George Hill wasn't as important to the spurs as Tony is to the Grizz

The grizz suck at drafting. I just dread 5 years from now when we see how we missed on 15 stars while drafting another bust and untradeable player.

(06-21-2015 04:03 PM)TigerStreet Wrote:  The grizz suck at drafting. I just dread 5 years from now when we see how we missed on 15 stars while drafting another bust and untradeable player.

SMDH

how do you know the new regime sucks at drafting?

(06-21-2015 04:26 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:03 PM)TigerStreet Wrote:  The grizz suck at drafting. I just dread 5 years from now when we see how we missed on 15 stars while drafting another bust and untradeable player.

SMDH

how do you know the new regime sucks at drafting?

Because Chris Wallace is the one drafting.

(06-21-2015 04:33 PM)TigerStreet Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:26 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:03 PM)TigerStreet Wrote:  The grizz suck at drafting. I just dread 5 years from now when we see how we missed on 15 stars while drafting another bust and untradeable player.

SMDH

how do you know the new regime sucks at drafting?

Because Chris Wallace is the one drafting.

I hope you know Hollinger is the one that really makes the choice?

Wallace has never really been our GM, which is exactly why he shouldn't be. He's just a PR mouthpiece basically.

(06-21-2015 11:18 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 09:11 AM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(06-20-2015 11:38 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(06-20-2015 09:16 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 02:32 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  If your suggesting trading tony you have lost your mind.

I think Grizz should draft a big. Need a backup center anyways so why not get one on the draft

Dudes aging and his trade value is probably high right now. You guys talk as if TA is a Hall of Famer or something. He isnt indispensable

Again anyone suggesting to trade Tony is just flat out crazy. You don't trade an important piece to your team just to move up in a draft. Just like last year when the whole talk of trading tony for chase budinger. It's just crazy.

Also you trade of Tony would be an absolute PR nightmare.

Nobody has ever said Tony is a hall of famer. What most do realize though is Tony is the identity and heart and soul of this teams defense.

You don't win championships trading key pieces to your team

The Spurs traded George Hill to move up to draft Leonard. It happens all the time. And the second part of your post has nothing to do with basketball. You cant let personal feelings and attachments effect personnel decisions

George Hill wasn't as important to the spurs as Tony is to the Grizz

Wrong. At the time Hill was thought of as a key piece and huge part of their future. Many Spurs fans wanted to start Hill and trade Parker. If TA wasnt a fan favorite you would have no trouble with trading him. He isnt a significant enough piece to rule untradable and doesnt move the needle much either way in regards to the teams ablity to win . He's just a role player. A high level role player but a role player. The only indespensable players we have are Conley, Marc and Zbo

sorry....we are very lucky to have Chris Wallace, for many reasons

(06-21-2015 07:06 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 11:18 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 09:11 AM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(06-20-2015 11:38 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(06-20-2015 09:16 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  Dudes aging and his trade value is probably high right now. You guys talk as if TA is a Hall of Famer or something. He isnt indispensable

Again anyone suggesting to trade Tony is just flat out crazy. You don't trade an important piece to your team just to move up in a draft. Just like last year when the whole talk of trading tony for chase budinger. It's just crazy.

Also you trade of Tony would be an absolute PR nightmare.

Nobody has ever said Tony is a hall of famer. What most do realize though is Tony is the identity and heart and soul of this teams defense.

You don't win championships trading key pieces to your team

The Spurs traded George Hill to move up to draft Leonard. It happens all the time. And the second part of your post has nothing to do with basketball. You cant let personal feelings and attachments effect personnel decisions

George Hill wasn't as important to the spurs as Tony is to the Grizz

Wrong. At the time Hill was thought of as a key piece and huge part of their future. Many Spurs fans wanted to start Hill and trade Parker. If TA wasnt a fan favorite you would have no trouble with trading him. He isnt a significant enough piece to rule untradable and doesnt move the needle much either way in regards to the teams ablity to win . He's just a role player. A high level role player but a role player. The only indespensable players we have are Conley, Marc and Zbo

Hahahahahaha for thinking Tony is a role player. If the Spurs thought Hill was such a crucial piece to their team then they wouldn't have traded him. Just like it's fans that think trading Tony is a good idea.

Honestly there are only two players that are indespensable., but their are 4 guys that just won't be traded. Shane Battier was a fan favorite and I didn't care one bit when he was traded. So the fan favorite thing has nothing to do with this. I only care about winning a championship and you get rid of Tony then that gets that much harder. You aren't getting what he brings to the table through the draft this year or free agency.

If the Grizz want to add shooting, I'd suggest trading into the 2nd to land Pat Connaughton.

They need to Do whatever it takes to get Kelly Oubre from Kansas....You put a athletic shooting talent like Oubre to what we got now and watch out....He is gonna be like another Paul George or better in time....If we can't get Oubre then we need to take a hard look at McCullough out of syracuse, Rashad Vaughn out of UNLV, or Christian Wood out of UNLV, and try and get into the second round and get Andrew Harrison....The World Is Ours Memphis....