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RE: Early lines for Memphis
(06-24-2015 10:26 AM)MemTiger90 Wrote: (06-24-2015 09:40 AM)tcountytigerfan Wrote: (06-23-2015 10:39 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote: (06-23-2015 09:15 PM)Pastnerized Wrote: (06-23-2015 08:52 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote: We have a good shot of making the AAC title game. In fact, we should make it. I just hope its not here because we won't sell over 15,000 tickets for it. But that's the case for most teams minus a select few. Any added game will have a legitimately lower attendance than throughout the season. It involves purchasing a single game ticket that will be around the same price as an entire season ticket
Yeah, that's right. Let's get to the CCG and hope it's not here.
Another terrific post from the startling mind of memtiger90.
If you understood how things work, you would agree with every part of my post. Hell, every post I ever post.
Which is better for us in our current situation with our current ambitions? Playing the CCG at say, ECU, in front of a big crowd and winning OR playing here in front of a bunch of concrete? (WHICH WILL BE SEEN THE WHOLE GAME BC OF WHERE THE CAMERA IS) Last year, we played Uconn in what was basically a CCG, and we had ~37,000~. But if we want to get serious, there were ~20,000~ there. And that game was covered by a season ticket. If we played an actual CCG here that involved purchasing a whole new ticket, you can expect there to be 10,000-15,000 less than what our season average would be. And MOST of those would be sitting on our home side, leaving the empty visitor side to be seen on TV the whole time. Now, is that something we need right now with ambitions of getting into a P5 conference? No, it isn't.
Okay, I'll play!
First off, let me say I've been going to games since I was 10 years old, which gives me over 25 years of going to games. I was at the Tulane monsoon game back in '94 with around 150 fans remaining during the torrential downpour (we won 13-0, btw), and I've been to the 60k+ games.
I agree with you on the position of the cameras - it's unfortunate that they face the visitors side, as that side is typically around 33% - 50% less than the home side in terms of number of fans. It would be nice if the camera's could switch sides, but I'm certain that is not an easy or cheap fix.
Your assessment of there being 20K at the UConn game is way off base. The 37K was fair. Keep in mind that 37K means the stadium was just over half full, and that's what it was that night. I'm gonna try and link a picture below from post-game, when I would say (easily) around 1/4 of the crowd had already left. Hopefully the picture will paste.
Also, to think that we would only have 15K tickets sold to a championship game seems a bit silly. There were right at 10K for the spring game! The football team was really, really bad for years prior to Coach Fuente - his first year, our attendance was around 12K per game. To go from 12K per game in 2012 to over 33K per game in 2014 is remarkable. And yes, those are real numbers for 2014. Again, I've been there when it was empty and I've been there when it's been standing room only - I know what an over-half full Liberty Bowl looks like.
There's an excitement around Tiger football that hasn't been here for years. I fully expect our attendance numbers in 2015 to be even higher than 2014. And if we're fortunate enough to host the conference championship, I would also fully expect there to be more, much more, than 15K in attendance.
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So you, like me, have been going to games no matter what for decades. So props to you on that. I've learned to judge crowd sizes at games over that time, and in recent times, I have inside knowledge as to what actual crowd numbers are. And I can assure you, that uconn game's ACTUAL number was around 22,000. If you take everyone, and literally put them next to each other seat by seat, the crowd is MUCH smaller than you think. If you notice, people are spread out every 2 or 3 seats everywhere except the home side first 20ish rows.
But anyways, my original point. Playing a CCG at home involves buying a ticket that would cost around the same as a FULL season ticket. So you're going to see far fewer people there than what your season average was. A perfect example of this would be when we host conference tournaments here in basketball. Even when we made the final game, the crowd was much smaller than what we had had at a regular season game. Uconn saw this same thing happen to them this past year. They talked a big game how they were going to support the tournament big time, yet every one of their games had around 5,000 people. FAR fewer than their season average
Okay, one last refute and then I'm done.
UConn game: let's take the example of the 2013 Duke game. Everyone was all excited because the attendance to that game was 44K - no one refuted that number, it was a great turnout. Now, you're trying to convince people that there were 22K at the UConn game - that's half of the Duke game. No way. The UConn game was somewhere in the 30K - 35K range. And again, you're just looking silly trying to back up your low-ball number. What's your point?
Championship game: Why are you convinced the ticket price would be that expensive? A season ticket is $89. I would venture a guess that tickets to the championship game would be well under $89, and wouldn't be at a price point that would significantly hurt attendance. Now, for any AAC championship game, the real impact to attendance is going to be the "away" teams attendance, or to the point, the lack there-of. I hope we get to prove you wrong on this come December. Which makes me ask, what's your point in even bringing up attendance to a championship game when the season doesn't start for another 2+ months?
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