(06-23-2015 05:16 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 10:14 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 08:21 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  What does feminism have to do with this?

Arguing the gender is a social construct

Gender is a social construct, a persons sex is not. How are people still not getting this simple concept?

maybe b/c they were once synonymous until the autocratic socialists (lgbt/media) changed the meaning.....here is the usage note (for gender) from dictionary.com....the bolded would be what it once meant....in entirety, it's nothing more than a pc disclaimer.....lmao at the silliest of things people worry about....

Quote:Usage note
Although it is possible to define gender as “sex,” indicating that the term can be used when differentiating male creatures from female ones biologically, the concept of gender, a word primarily applied to human beings, has additional connotations—more rich and more amorphous—having to do with general behavior, social interactions, and most importantly, one's fundamental sense of self.
Until recently, most people assumed that acknowledging one's gender, or sex, was easy. You just checked the appropriate box on a standard form, choosing either “male” or “female,” according to the gender you had been assigned at birth based on visible anatomical evidence. But some people's internal sense of who they are does not correspond with their assigned gender. And in fact, we now recognize that a complex spectrum between male and female exists not only mentally, psychologically, and behaviorally, but anatomically; there have always been biologically intersex people.
Gender identity is complicated. Some people, perhaps most, do not question their assigned gender. But others perceive themselves as belonging to the opposite sex. Still others, some of whom identify themselves as genderqueer, see themselves as neither male nor female, or perhaps as both, or as rotating between genders, or even as not belonging to any gender categorization at all.
Those who clearly see themselves as the opposite sex may or may not want to transition to it in some measure. Of those who do, some may complete that transition, but others may be happy to stop partway on a path that can include dressing and behaving like the opposite sex, although the desire to cross-dress can exist quite apart from issues of gender identity. Somewhere along the transitional path, people may want to change their given names and adopt linguistic terms of their own choosing, including a variety of pronouns, as designations of themselves and others. Some will have hormone treatments and opt for various kinds of surgery—perhaps facial, perhaps on their bodies, perhaps ultimately including sex “reassignment” surgery (genital reconstruction). At any point, they may welcome or reject a “transsexual” or “transgender” label.
This array of life experiences has resulted in a veritable explosion of new, or newly adapted, vocabulary. Particularly striking and useful is the word cis or prefix cis-, as in cis male, cis female, and cisgender, designating those whose sense of self matches their assigned gender. Using cis is a way to refer to these individuals without implying that “cis” people are the norm and all others a deviation from “normal.” It is notable that choices of gender beyond male and female are even appearing on social media sites. Clearly, gender is no longer a simple binary concept, if it ever was.

(06-23-2015 05:16 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 10:14 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 08:21 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  What does feminism have to do with this?

Arguing the gender is a social construct

Gender is a social construct, a persons sex is not. How are people still not getting this simple concept?

Because they have been interchangeable for the longest and most of us aren't steeped enough in academic tradition to keep up with the changes. Most people don't study social science, they are just trying to navigate their world as best as they can. Most people still consider Pluto a planet, because that's how they learned it. I just recently learned that the K was dropped from what I had learned was the K-T extinction. I'm sorry that you feel that most of us are knuckle dragging neanderthals (when that last word is the 'h' is silent?)

But the differences between sex and gender don't answer the question: should Fallon Fox be able to fight Rhonda Rousey?

(06-23-2015 10:27 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 07:12 AM)58-56 Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 02:59 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  What happens when you treat sports where you can disavow your birth gender and simply compete against the other if you wish?


It might not be a huge deal in softball or soccer or whatever. But in MMA ... that higher testosterone count has MARKED advantages. Faster reflexes. Bulkier frame. More muscle mass. The ability to put on muscle faster.


So if you're all for gender being simply a choice ... what do you do when a guy becomes a girl, but uses the guy advantages to seriously f*** up competitors in MMA with an unfair advantage?

http://www.libertynewsnow.com/transgende...rticle1545



I'm not advocating for banning transgendered in sports. I'm just advocating for a more nuanced approach to "equality". You might not want a 150 pound female trying to carry you back injured from the front lines of the Marines. And you might not want somebody born a guy to cave your skull in when you spent all your life training to compete in a sport where testosterone is an advantage and those you typically compete against don't have that much of it.

Tennis tried to block Renee Richards/Richard Raskind in the 70's and lost in court. He was a big guy already, so she was a monster among women even though she was kind of old by then. She came to agree that she shouldn't have played with the women.

You mean "he".

Easier to keep track of pre- and post-chop.

Yes, h is silent in "neanderthal" (German loan word)