Grand Canyon

Quote:"They'd be a good fit for our league and a good media market for our league to be in, so I think it's only a matter of time," St. Mary's basketball coach Randy Bennett said. "They need to fight through these years and then when they are eligible for the postseason as far as NIT and NCAA, then I think it's going to happen."

WAC needs to find more candidates or they could become a defunct conference.

He's being polite. The WCC won't touch GCU as long as it's a for-profit institution. It will have to convert to a non-profit and then demonstrate a record of on-court performance before the WCC presidents will have a real interest.

Even if Coach Bennett was just paying lip service at least he acknowledged GCU has potential. They are moving at a furious pace. Not only renovating and increasing arena capacity, but also building up dorms and classrooms as well. They are well on their way. I do believe they were a non-profit school in the past.

Regarding GCU's hypothetical membership in the WCC - would they join as member #11, or be a replacement for BYU? That's important to know because after the Lopes the only real options left for a 12th member are Denver, Seattle and D2 schools in California like Azusa Pacific or Cal Baptist.

If BYU leaves it will be Denver or Seattle - being stuck at nine members is something the WCC wants to avoid, hence why Pepperdine was added a few years ago. I would lean towards Denver since Gonzaga essentially covers Seattle for the WCC. Unless if there were another travel partner for Portland, there's no gain in adding Seattle for the rest of the conference.

Coaches may as well be fans sitting at their computers in these things. Their opinions matter nothing on the subject.

And if Denver someday does find its way into the WCC, GCU needn't bother applying. Maybe the best GC has in it is the Big Sky or Summit, and I see those two as gutted before they reach out.

IMO, I think Grand Canyon will eventually go back to a 'non-profit' status now that they're in the WAC. The fact that their 'for-profit' status hurts their ability to play schools in the Pac-12 could be a factor. A small West coast school like them competing against a P5 conference in the West helps with recruiting. I think they are motivated after seeing a fellow Christian school like Liberty become successful in being a non-profit school with a online education program.

(06-16-2015 04:45 AM)jdgaucho Wrote:  Even if Coach Bennett was just paying lip service at least he acknowledged GCU has potential. They are moving at a furious pace. Not only renovating and increasing arena capacity, but also building up dorms and classrooms as well. They are well on their way. I do believe they were a non-profit school in the past.

Regarding GCU's hypothetical membership in the WCC - would they join as member #11, or be a replacement for BYU? That's important to know because after the Lopes the only real options left for a 12th member are Denver, Seattle and D2 schools in California like Azusa Pacific or Cal Baptist.

GCU was non-profit but they turned into a for profit college in order to gain investors so that they could do all of this infrastructure build up that they are doing. There is talk of them going back to non-profit status but I am not sure what is necessary for them to do that in terms of making good with the investors that they had once they went to for profit.

(06-16-2015 06:53 AM)LUcanesfan Wrote:  IMO, I think Grand Canyon will eventually go back to a 'non-profit' status now that they're in the WAC. The fact that their 'for-profit' status hurts their ability to play schools in the Pac-12 could be a factor. A small West coast school like them competing against a P5 conference in the West helps with recruiting. I think they are motivated after seeing a fellow Christian school like Liberty become successful in being a non-profit school with a online education program.

FOR PROFIT---like devry and u of Phoenix. Ridiculous thread.

(06-16-2015 05:42 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  If BYU leaves it will be Denver or Seattle - being stuck at nine members is something the WCC wants to avoid, hence why Pepperdine was added a few years ago. I would lean towards Denver since Gonzaga essentially covers Seattle for the WCC. Unless if there were another travel partner for Portland, there's no gain in adding Seattle for the rest of the conference.

Pacific was added a few years ago. Pepperdine has been in the WCC a number of decades.

Denver will be first in line if there's an opening. Denver's stated reason for leaving the WAC was it didn't want to be associated with a for-profit like GCU.

(06-16-2015 07:23 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 04:45 AM)jdgaucho Wrote:  Even if Coach Bennett was just paying lip service at least he acknowledged GCU has potential. They are moving at a furious pace. Not only renovating and increasing arena capacity, but also building up dorms and classrooms as well. They are well on their way. I do believe they were a non-profit school in the past.

Regarding GCU's hypothetical membership in the WCC - would they join as member #11, or be a replacement for BYU? That's important to know because after the Lopes the only real options left for a 12th member are Denver, Seattle and D2 schools in California like Azusa Pacific or Cal Baptist.

GCU was non-profit but they turned into a for profit college in order to gain investors so that they could do all of this infrastructure build up that they are doing. There is talk of them going back to non-profit status but I am not sure what is necessary for them to do that in terms of making good with the investors that they had once they went to for profit.

Grand Canyon Education is a public company traded under the symbol LOPE on the NASDAQ. It has a current market value of over $2 billion, so any return to non-profit has to offer shareholders more than $2 billion. Not an easy task.

Public and private non-profit campuses feel threatened by LOPE. Guess the non-profits should also eschew the media companies and advertisers, since they are also for profit.

(06-16-2015 08:01 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 07:23 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 04:45 AM)jdgaucho Wrote:  Even if Coach Bennett was just paying lip service at least he acknowledged GCU has potential. They are moving at a furious pace. Not only renovating and increasing arena capacity, but also building up dorms and classrooms as well. They are well on their way. I do believe they were a non-profit school in the past.

Regarding GCU's hypothetical membership in the WCC - would they join as member #11, or be a replacement for BYU? That's important to know because after the Lopes the only real options left for a 12th member are Denver, Seattle and D2 schools in California like Azusa Pacific or Cal Baptist.

GCU was non-profit but they turned into a for profit college in order to gain investors so that they could do all of this infrastructure build up that they are doing. There is talk of them going back to non-profit status but I am not sure what is necessary for them to do that in terms of making good with the investors that they had once they went to for profit.

Grand Canyon Education is a public company traded under the symbol LOPE on the NASDAQ. It has a current market value of over $2 billion, so any return to non-profit has to offer shareholders more than $2 billion. Not an easy task.

Public and private non-profit campuses feel threatened by LOPE. Guess the non-profits should also eschew the media companies and advertisers, since they are also for profit.

The only reason why they went for profit status because they were in financial straights, and could have wound up like Lambuth.

They are really not like U. of Phoenix. Grand Canyon U's diplomats is in good standings since many of their graduates are leaders of major corporations. The questions about U. of Phoenix if they are diplomat mills. They shut down a for profit company that ran a bunch of schools in major cities across this country last year.

One of my former high school basketball couches used to couch at Grand Canyon U.

Add to say that there is NW Nazarene in Idaho that is D2.

(06-16-2015 09:27 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 08:01 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 07:23 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 04:45 AM)jdgaucho Wrote:  Even if Coach Bennett was just paying lip service at least he acknowledged GCU has potential. They are moving at a furious pace. Not only renovating and increasing arena capacity, but also building up dorms and classrooms as well. They are well on their way. I do believe they were a non-profit school in the past.

Regarding GCU's hypothetical membership in the WCC - would they join as member #11, or be a replacement for BYU? That's important to know because after the Lopes the only real options left for a 12th member are Denver, Seattle and D2 schools in California like Azusa Pacific or Cal Baptist.

GCU was non-profit but they turned into a for profit college in order to gain investors so that they could do all of this infrastructure build up that they are doing. There is talk of them going back to non-profit status but I am not sure what is necessary for them to do that in terms of making good with the investors that they had once they went to for profit.

Grand Canyon Education is a public company traded under the symbol LOPE on the NASDAQ. It has a current market value of over $2 billion, so any return to non-profit has to offer shareholders more than $2 billion. Not an easy task.

Public and private non-profit campuses feel threatened by LOPE. Guess the non-profits should also eschew the media companies and advertisers, since they are also for profit.

The only reason why they went for profit status because they were in financial straights, and could have wound up like Lambuth.

They are really not like U. of Phoenix. Grand Canyon U's diplomats is in good standings since many of their graduates are leaders of major corporations. The questions about U. of Phoenix if they are diplomat mills. They shut down a for profit company that ran a bunch of schools in major cities across this country last year.

One of my former high school basketball couches used to couch at Grand Canyon U.

yes I'm sitting on your couch right now. He s a special couch as he can teach the art of basketball while people fill him full of farts.

(06-16-2015 09:27 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 08:01 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 07:23 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 04:45 AM)jdgaucho Wrote:  Even if Coach Bennett was just paying lip service at least he acknowledged GCU has potential. They are moving at a furious pace. Not only renovating and increasing arena capacity, but also building up dorms and classrooms as well. They are well on their way. I do believe they were a non-profit school in the past.

Regarding GCU's hypothetical membership in the WCC - would they join as member #11, or be a replacement for BYU? That's important to know because after the Lopes the only real options left for a 12th member are Denver, Seattle and D2 schools in California like Azusa Pacific or Cal Baptist.

GCU was non-profit but they turned into a for profit college in order to gain investors so that they could do all of this infrastructure build up that they are doing. There is talk of them going back to non-profit status but I am not sure what is necessary for them to do that in terms of making good with the investors that they had once they went to for profit.

Grand Canyon Education is a public company traded under the symbol LOPE on the NASDAQ. It has a current market value of over $2 billion, so any return to non-profit has to offer shareholders more than $2 billion. Not an easy task.

Public and private non-profit campuses feel threatened by LOPE. Guess the non-profits should also eschew the media companies and advertisers, since they are also for profit.

The only reason why they went for profit status because they were in financial straights, and could have wound up like Lambuth.

They are really not like U. of Phoenix. Grand Canyon U's diplomats is in good standings since many of their graduates are leaders of major corporations. The questions about U. of Phoenix if they are diplomat mills. They shut down a for profit company that ran a bunch of schools in major cities across this country last year.

One of my former high school basketball couches used to couch at Grand Canyon U.

And now their men's basketball head coach is Dan Majerle. Schools like University of Phoenix aren't doing anything like that. Moves like that are about creating a culture on campus and are generally not moneymakers at that level. That goes against the type of "for profit" mentality that you see at internet colleges such as University of Phoenix.

I honestly don't give a damn about GCU here in Phoenix but to compare GCU to the University of Phoenix? There isn't much of a comparison. GCU has one central campus that is expanding with more dorms and more facilities. The University of Phoenix's facilities in the city are all over the place and are more like office buildings. They don't do classrooms.

He's only saying that to curry favor from USA Basketball head Jerry Colangelo.

(06-16-2015 06:04 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 09:27 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 08:01 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 07:23 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 04:45 AM)jdgaucho Wrote:  Even if Coach Bennett was just paying lip service at least he acknowledged GCU has potential. They are moving at a furious pace. Not only renovating and increasing arena capacity, but also building up dorms and classrooms as well. They are well on their way. I do believe they were a non-profit school in the past.

Regarding GCU's hypothetical membership in the WCC - would they join as member #11, or be a replacement for BYU? That's important to know because after the Lopes the only real options left for a 12th member are Denver, Seattle and D2 schools in California like Azusa Pacific or Cal Baptist.

GCU was non-profit but they turned into a for profit college in order to gain investors so that they could do all of this infrastructure build up that they are doing. There is talk of them going back to non-profit status but I am not sure what is necessary for them to do that in terms of making good with the investors that they had once they went to for profit.

Grand Canyon Education is a public company traded under the symbol LOPE on the NASDAQ. It has a current market value of over $2 billion, so any return to non-profit has to offer shareholders more than $2 billion. Not an easy task.

Public and private non-profit campuses feel threatened by LOPE. Guess the non-profits should also eschew the media companies and advertisers, since they are also for profit.

The only reason why they went for profit status because they were in financial straights, and could have wound up like Lambuth.

They are really not like U. of Phoenix. Grand Canyon U's diplomats is in good standings since many of their graduates are leaders of major corporations. The questions about U. of Phoenix if they are diplomat mills. They shut down a for profit company that ran a bunch of schools in major cities across this country last year.

One of my former high school basketball couches used to couch at Grand Canyon U.

And now their men's basketball head coach is Dan Majerle. Schools like University of Phoenix aren't doing anything like that. Moves like that are about creating a culture on campus and are generally not moneymakers at that level. That goes against the type of "for profit" mentality that you see at internet colleges such as University of Phoenix.

I honestly don't give a damn about GCU here in Phoenix but to compare GCU to the University of Phoenix? There isn't much of a comparison. GCU has one central campus that is expanding with more dorms and more facilities. The University of Phoenix's facilities in the city are all over the place and are more like office buildings. They don't do classrooms.

Interesting that when Grand Canyon announced it was going DI with the WAC, the stock price jumped like 60%, if my memory is correct. Says alot how the investment community views DI athletics: as free advertising.

Isn't Grand Canyon building another campus in the Phoenix area?

(06-16-2015 08:32 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 06:04 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 09:27 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 08:01 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 07:23 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  GCU was non-profit but they turned into a for profit college in order to gain investors so that they could do all of this infrastructure build up that they are doing. There is talk of them going back to non-profit status but I am not sure what is necessary for them to do that in terms of making good with the investors that they had once they went to for profit.

Grand Canyon Education is a public company traded under the symbol LOPE on the NASDAQ. It has a current market value of over $2 billion, so any return to non-profit has to offer shareholders more than $2 billion. Not an easy task.

Public and private non-profit campuses feel threatened by LOPE. Guess the non-profits should also eschew the media companies and advertisers, since they are also for profit.

The only reason why they went for profit status because they were in financial straights, and could have wound up like Lambuth.

They are really not like U. of Phoenix. Grand Canyon U's diplomats is in good standings since many of their graduates are leaders of major corporations. The questions about U. of Phoenix if they are diplomat mills. They shut down a for profit company that ran a bunch of schools in major cities across this country last year.

One of my former high school basketball couches used to couch at Grand Canyon U.

And now their men's basketball head coach is Dan Majerle. Schools like University of Phoenix aren't doing anything like that. Moves like that are about creating a culture on campus and are generally not moneymakers at that level. That goes against the type of "for profit" mentality that you see at internet colleges such as University of Phoenix.

I honestly don't give a damn about GCU here in Phoenix but to compare GCU to the University of Phoenix? There isn't much of a comparison. GCU has one central campus that is expanding with more dorms and more facilities. The University of Phoenix's facilities in the city are all over the place and are more like office buildings. They don't do classrooms.

Interesting that when Grand Canyon announced it was going DI with the WAC, the stock price jumped like 60%, if my memory is correct. Says alot how the investment community views DI athletics: as free advertising.

Isn't Grand Canyon building another campus in the Phoenix area?

Uh, I don't know. Good question. You probably know better than me, you seem to have a strong knowledge base about the Phoenix area.

(06-16-2015 08:49 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 08:32 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 06:04 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 09:27 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 08:01 AM)NoDak Wrote:  Grand Canyon Education is a public company traded under the symbol LOPE on the NASDAQ. It has a current market value of over $2 billion, so any return to non-profit has to offer shareholders more than $2 billion. Not an easy task.

Public and private non-profit campuses feel threatened by LOPE. Guess the non-profits should also eschew the media companies and advertisers, since they are also for profit.

The only reason why they went for profit status because they were in financial straights, and could have wound up like Lambuth.

They are really not like U. of Phoenix. Grand Canyon U's diplomats is in good standings since many of their graduates are leaders of major corporations. The questions about U. of Phoenix if they are diplomat mills. They shut down a for profit company that ran a bunch of schools in major cities across this country last year.

One of my former high school basketball couches used to couch at Grand Canyon U.

And now their men's basketball head coach is Dan Majerle. Schools like University of Phoenix aren't doing anything like that. Moves like that are about creating a culture on campus and are generally not moneymakers at that level. That goes against the type of "for profit" mentality that you see at internet colleges such as University of Phoenix.

I honestly don't give a damn about GCU here in Phoenix but to compare GCU to the University of Phoenix? There isn't much of a comparison. GCU has one central campus that is expanding with more dorms and more facilities. The University of Phoenix's facilities in the city are all over the place and are more like office buildings. They don't do classrooms.

Interesting that when Grand Canyon announced it was going DI with the WAC, the stock price jumped like 60%, if my memory is correct. Says alot how the investment community views DI athletics: as free advertising.

Isn't Grand Canyon building another campus in the Phoenix area?

Uh, I don't know. Good question. You probably know better than me, you seem to have a strong knowledge base about the Phoenix area.

Looks like GCU has put expansion plans for another campus in Mesa on hold, but their still building feverishly in Phoenix.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/money/bus.../21530519/

As do a number of NoDaks, have relatives that winter in the Valley of the Sun.

(06-16-2015 10:21 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 08:49 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 08:32 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 06:04 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 09:27 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  The only reason why they went for profit status because they were in financial straights, and could have wound up like Lambuth.

They are really not like U. of Phoenix. Grand Canyon U's diplomats is in good standings since many of their graduates are leaders of major corporations. The questions about U. of Phoenix if they are diplomat mills. They shut down a for profit company that ran a bunch of schools in major cities across this country last year.

One of my former high school basketball couches used to couch at Grand Canyon U.

And now their men's basketball head coach is Dan Majerle. Schools like University of Phoenix aren't doing anything like that. Moves like that are about creating a culture on campus and are generally not moneymakers at that level. That goes against the type of "for profit" mentality that you see at internet colleges such as University of Phoenix.

I honestly don't give a damn about GCU here in Phoenix but to compare GCU to the University of Phoenix? There isn't much of a comparison. GCU has one central campus that is expanding with more dorms and more facilities. The University of Phoenix's facilities in the city are all over the place and are more like office buildings. They don't do classrooms.

Interesting that when Grand Canyon announced it was going DI with the WAC, the stock price jumped like 60%, if my memory is correct. Says alot how the investment community views DI athletics: as free advertising.

Isn't Grand Canyon building another campus in the Phoenix area?

Uh, I don't know. Good question. You probably know better than me, you seem to have a strong knowledge base about the Phoenix area.

Looks like GCU has put expansion plans for another campus in Mesa on hold, but their still building feverishly in Phoenix.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/money/bus.../21530519/

As do a number of NoDaks, have relatives that winter in the Valley of the Sun.

Your terminology tells me you speak truth, as does you knowing where to look for the answer.

(06-16-2015 06:04 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 09:27 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 08:01 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 07:23 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 04:45 AM)jdgaucho Wrote:  Even if Coach Bennett was just paying lip service at least he acknowledged GCU has potential. They are moving at a furious pace. Not only renovating and increasing arena capacity, but also building up dorms and classrooms as well. They are well on their way. I do believe they were a non-profit school in the past.

Regarding GCU's hypothetical membership in the WCC - would they join as member #11, or be a replacement for BYU? That's important to know because after the Lopes the only real options left for a 12th member are Denver, Seattle and D2 schools in California like Azusa Pacific or Cal Baptist.

GCU was non-profit but they turned into a for profit college in order to gain investors so that they could do all of this infrastructure build up that they are doing. There is talk of them going back to non-profit status but I am not sure what is necessary for them to do that in terms of making good with the investors that they had once they went to for profit.

Grand Canyon Education is a public company traded under the symbol LOPE on the NASDAQ. It has a current market value of over $2 billion, so any return to non-profit has to offer shareholders more than $2 billion. Not an easy task.

Public and private non-profit campuses feel threatened by LOPE. Guess the non-profits should also eschew the media companies and advertisers, since they are also for profit.

The only reason why they went for profit status because they were in financial straights, and could have wound up like Lambuth.

They are really not like U. of Phoenix. Grand Canyon U's diplomats is in good standings since many of their graduates are leaders of major corporations. The questions about U. of Phoenix if they are diplomat mills. They shut down a for profit company that ran a bunch of schools in major cities across this country last year.

One of my former high school basketball couches used to couch at Grand Canyon U.

And now their men's basketball head coach is Dan Majerle. Schools like University of Phoenix aren't doing anything like that. Moves like that are about creating a culture on campus and are generally not moneymakers at that level. That goes against the type of "for profit" mentality that you see at internet colleges such as University of Phoenix.

I honestly don't give a damn about GCU here in Phoenix but to compare GCU to the University of Phoenix? There isn't much of a comparison. GCU has one central campus that is expanding with more dorms and more facilities. The University of Phoenix's facilities in the city are all over the place and are more like office buildings. They don't do classrooms.

I was not comparing Grand Canyon U. to Phoenix. I was saying they are different. University of Phoenix seems more of a scam university, and Grand Canyon is legit. I was responding to someone said the two are the same.

All universities are offering online classes now.