(06-21-2015 04:51 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:44 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:43 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:41 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 09:06 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Actually, they have to destroy Israel in order to establish their own country. Unless some land can be found elsewhere.

Doubtful they will. The other countries in the region love to wax poetic about the poor palestinians and how they deserve a home, but they'd rather have a proxy with which to annoying israel than to actually help them by settling them in their own countries.

Arabs hate Palestinians. Israel probably treats Palestinians better than any Arab country would.

I do think there's a way to get some more land, particularly in Sinai which is the ancestral home of the Palestinians. I think Egypt is in enough economic trouble that their choking price might not be all that dear.

Who would pay though? I'm admittedly not up to date on this issue.

We could and should. It would be a cheaper and better solution than any of the alternatives.

The U.N. should do it. It would be the first time they did something positive.

(06-21-2015 05:43 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:51 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:44 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:43 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:41 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Doubtful they will. The other countries in the region love to wax poetic about the poor palestinians and how they deserve a home, but they'd rather have a proxy with which to annoying israel than to actually help them by settling them in their own countries.

Arabs hate Palestinians. Israel probably treats Palestinians better than any Arab country would.

I do think there's a way to get some more land, particularly in Sinai which is the ancestral home of the Palestinians. I think Egypt is in enough economic trouble that their choking price might not be all that dear.

Who would pay though? I'm admittedly not up to date on this issue.

We could and should. It would be a cheaper and better solution than any of the alternatives.

The U.N. should do it. It would be the first time they did something positive.

Seems like you support Israel, from your past posts. Which is weird, because it also seems like you're painfully unaware of the UN's role in the creation of the state itself.

(06-21-2015 04:51 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:44 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:43 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:41 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 09:06 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Actually, they have to destroy Israel in order to establish their own country. Unless some land can be found elsewhere.

Doubtful they will. The other countries in the region love to wax poetic about the poor palestinians and how they deserve a home, but they'd rather have a proxy with which to annoying israel than to actually help them by settling them in their own countries.

Arabs hate Palestinians. Israel probably treats Palestinians better than any Arab country would.

I do think there's a way to get some more land, particularly in Sinai which is the ancestral home of the Palestinians. I think Egypt is in enough economic trouble that their choking price might not be all that dear.

Who would pay though? I'm admittedly not up to date on this issue.

We could and should. It would be a cheaper and better solution than any of the alternatives.

There's always asking to Isreali's to move as well. Seeing as they were gifted the region by the UN via the UK, their presence is just as artificial from a geopolitical POV.

(06-22-2015 11:51 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:51 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:44 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:43 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:41 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Doubtful they will. The other countries in the region love to wax poetic about the poor palestinians and how they deserve a home, but they'd rather have a proxy with which to annoying israel than to actually help them by settling them in their own countries.

Arabs hate Palestinians. Israel probably treats Palestinians better than any Arab country would.

I do think there's a way to get some more land, particularly in Sinai which is the ancestral home of the Palestinians. I think Egypt is in enough economic trouble that their choking price might not be all that dear.

Who would pay though? I'm admittedly not up to date on this issue.

We could and should. It would be a cheaper and better solution than any of the alternatives.

There's always asking to Isreali's to move as well. Seeing as they were gifted the region by the UN via the UK, their presence is just as artificial from a geopolitical POV.

At one point there was some discussion of relocating the European Jews to Alaska.

(06-22-2015 11:51 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:51 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:44 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:43 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:41 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Doubtful they will. The other countries in the region love to wax poetic about the poor palestinians and how they deserve a home, but they'd rather have a proxy with which to annoying israel than to actually help them by settling them in their own countries.

Arabs hate Palestinians. Israel probably treats Palestinians better than any Arab country would.

I do think there's a way to get some more land, particularly in Sinai which is the ancestral home of the Palestinians. I think Egypt is in enough economic trouble that their choking price might not be all that dear.

Who would pay though? I'm admittedly not up to date on this issue.

We could and should. It would be a cheaper and better solution than any of the alternatives.

There's always asking to Isreali's to move as well. Seeing as they were gifted the region by the UN via the UK, their presence is just as artificial from a geopolitical POV.

One big difference is that Israel has a legitimate historical claim to the land. It was the home of the Jews for over a millennium. It has never been the home of the Palestinians. That was Sinai.

(06-22-2015 12:01 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 11:51 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:51 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:44 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:43 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Arabs hate Palestinians. Israel probably treats Palestinians better than any Arab country would.

I do think there's a way to get some more land, particularly in Sinai which is the ancestral home of the Palestinians. I think Egypt is in enough economic trouble that their choking price might not be all that dear.

Who would pay though? I'm admittedly not up to date on this issue.

We could and should. It would be a cheaper and better solution than any of the alternatives.

There's always asking to Isreali's to move as well. Seeing as they were gifted the region by the UN via the UK, their presence is just as artificial from a geopolitical POV.

One big difference is that Israel has a legitimate historical claim to the land. It was the home of the Jews for over a millennium. It has never been the home of the Palestinians. That was Sinai.

Well, the entire concept of having a 'historical claim' to a piece of land, especially one with such a long and varied history as the areas which make up Israel, is just opening up a can of worms. Not that I think you're really pushing that as the main basis of allowing Israel to stay.

(06-21-2015 05:53 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 05:43 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:51 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:44 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:43 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Arabs hate Palestinians. Israel probably treats Palestinians better than any Arab country would.

I do think there's a way to get some more land, particularly in Sinai which is the ancestral home of the Palestinians. I think Egypt is in enough economic trouble that their choking price might not be all that dear.

Who would pay though? I'm admittedly not up to date on this issue.

We could and should. It would be a cheaper and better solution than any of the alternatives.

The U.N. should do it. It would be the first time they did something positive.

Seems like you support Israel, from your past posts. Which is weird, because it also seems like you're painfully unaware of the UN's role in the creation of the state itself.

And ever since then the U.N. has been trying to tear it down, siding with Muslim terrorists at every opportunity.

The U.N. is worthless other than the UNICEF program and a few efforts like that.

(06-22-2015 12:01 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 11:51 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:51 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:44 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 04:43 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Arabs hate Palestinians. Israel probably treats Palestinians better than any Arab country would.

I do think there's a way to get some more land, particularly in Sinai which is the ancestral home of the Palestinians. I think Egypt is in enough economic trouble that their choking price might not be all that dear.

Who would pay though? I'm admittedly not up to date on this issue.

We could and should. It would be a cheaper and better solution than any of the alternatives.

There's always asking to Isreali's to move as well. Seeing as they were gifted the region by the UN via the UK, their presence is just as artificial from a geopolitical POV.

One big difference is that Israel has a legitimate historical claim to the land. It was the home of the Jews for over a millennium. It has never been the home of the Palestinians. That was Sinai.

Which is why I restricted it to geopolitics. One of the two groups of people have got to go, in my mind the only question is whether they will be riding in seats or wearing bodybags.