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RE: Projections for 2015?
JMU has coming back with Lee & company, but also a lot to replace. 5 of 7 starting OL & top 2 WR. On D 2 bookends (both All CAA & 1 All American) & both starting safeties, 1 All CA/All American.

JMU has fortunately had 2 full seasons of no QB injuries that caused missed games. How does everyone's outlook change if Lee goes down pre season or the 1st half of the season?

I was pretty close last year, predicting 8-4/1-1 playoffs, going out in round of 16.
I'll say 8-3/1-1 playoffs, going out in round of 16 to finish 9-4 overall. If Lee goes down that all goes out the window...
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RE: Projections for 2015?
The thing about last year was we actually pulled out most of the close ones and lost one we shouldn't have. So I'm going with the same this year but a better run at the playoffs. We've lost talent and coaches but I think better familiarity with EW's system will result in better execution.

Morehead State, W 1-0
Lehigh, W 2-0
Albany, W 3-0/1-0
at SMU, L 3-1 (BUT, if their new coach hasn't had time to turn them around I think we take this!)
Stony Brook, W 4-1/2-0
at Towson, W 5-1/3-0
at Elon, W 6-1/4-0
Richmond, W 7-1/5-0
at W&M, L 7-2/5-1
at Delaware, W 8-2/6-1
Nova, W 9-2/7-1

Playoffs
First Round Bye
2nd Round - Beat the sh!t out of Liberty.
3rd Round - I don't care what happens, I'm just glad we beat the sh!t out of Liberty.
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I project that EW will talk more and more about "Juice."
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(06-17-2015 04:41 AM)johnjmu98 Wrote:  I project that EW will talk more and more about "Juice."

+1

And Alger will say "Engaged University".
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RE: Projections for 2015?
I think a lot hinges on Vad's health. I was a little concerned to see that he was back wearing the bulky brace in the spring. When he took that thing off last year he was a different player. We lost some good players on D but I think at the same time we have some young guys with a lot of upside. The offensive line is the X factor in my mind. I think the backs and receivers will be good. Definitely lost some good players in Brown and Smith at WR but I like Ravenel, Hyman, Davis, and Coble plus the young guys we have coming up. Add on top of that Cheatham and if we can protect Vad the passing game should be fine. The kicking game was a pleasant surprise last year so I expect that to be good too.
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(06-16-2015 09:54 PM)2Buck Wrote:  The thing about last year was we actually pulled out most of the close ones and lost one we shouldn't have. So I'm going with the same this year but a better run at the playoffs. We've lost talent and coaches but I think better familiarity with EW's system will result in better execution.

Morehead State, W 1-0
Lehigh, W 2-0
Albany, W 3-0/1-0
at SMU, L 3-1 (BUT, if their new coach hasn't had time to turn them around I think we take this!)
Stony Brook, W 4-1/2-0
at Towson, W 5-1/3-0
at Elon, W 6-1/4-0
Richmond, W 7-1/5-0
at W&M, L 7-2/5-1
at Delaware, W 8-2/6-1
Nova, W 9-2/7-1

Playoffs
First Round Bye
2nd Round - Beat the sh!t out of Liberty.
3rd Round - I don't care what happens, I'm just glad we beat the sh!t out of Liberty.

Regular season 9-2/7-1 is 1 better than last year...
Last year regular season 9-3/6-2 = this year 8-3/6-2 with 1 less easy OOC...
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(06-17-2015 02:03 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  I think a lot hinges on Vad's health. I was a little concerned to see that he was back wearing the bulky brace in the spring. When he took that thing off last year he was a different player. We lost some good players on D but I think at the same time we have some young guys with a lot of upside. The offensive line is the X factor in my mind. I think the backs and receivers will be good. Definitely lost some good players in Brown and Smith at WR but I like Ravenel, Hyman, Davis, and Coble plus the young guys we have coming up. Add on top of that Cheatham and if we can protect Vad the passing game should be fine. The kicking game was a pleasant surprise last year so I expect that to be good too.

Is the door pretty much shut now on getting any transfers? About 2 months since end of Spring ball and no news on that front...
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(06-17-2015 04:32 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(06-17-2015 02:03 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  I think a lot hinges on Vad's health. I was a little concerned to see that he was back wearing the bulky brace in the spring. When he took that thing off last year he was a different player. We lost some good players on D but I think at the same time we have some young guys with a lot of upside. The offensive line is the X factor in my mind. I think the backs and receivers will be good. Definitely lost some good players in Brown and Smith at WR but I like Ravenel, Hyman, Davis, and Coble plus the young guys we have coming up. Add on top of that Cheatham and if we can protect Vad the passing game should be fine. The kicking game was a pleasant surprise last year so I expect that to be good too.

Is the door pretty much shut now on getting any transfers? About 2 months since end of Spring ball and no news on that front...

I would tend to think so. But Withers plays stuff like this very close to the vest, so it's possible that someone will enroll (maybe waiting on some grades or transfer credit issues?). If it does happen, I'd sure like it to be an offensive lineman. Our depth is weak and not convinced of the talent either.
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(06-17-2015 04:28 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(06-16-2015 09:54 PM)2Buck Wrote:  The thing about last year was we actually pulled out most of the close ones and lost one we shouldn't have. So I'm going with the same this year but a better run at the playoffs. We've lost talent and coaches but I think better familiarity with EW's system will result in better execution.

Morehead State, W 1-0
Lehigh, W 2-0
Albany, W 3-0/1-0
at SMU, L 3-1 (BUT, if their new coach hasn't had time to turn them around I think we take this!)
Stony Brook, W 4-1/2-0
at Towson, W 5-1/3-0
at Elon, W 6-1/4-0
Richmond, W 7-1/5-0
at W&M, L 7-2/5-1
at Delaware, W 8-2/6-1
Nova, W 9-2/7-1

Playoffs
First Round Bye
2nd Round - Beat the sh!t out of Liberty.
3rd Round - I don't care what happens, I'm just glad we beat the sh!t out of Liberty.

Regular season 9-2/7-1 is 1 better than last year...
Last year regular season 9-3/6-2 = this year 8-3/6-2 with 1 less easy OOC...

Yeah, I didn't mean the same record as last year. I meant winning more of the close games but losing one we should win (hence the W&M loss). In recent years it seemed we lost more close games than won but last year turned out pretty well.
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You didn't hear Noah Spence is coming still????
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(06-17-2015 07:42 PM)Dukes86 Wrote:  You didn't hear Noah Spence is coming still????

...and everything I have ever read on the internet is true.
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My math was off in my excitement for 2015. I forgot we only had 11 games. Revised prediction: 10-1, home for the playoff games and heading to Frisco for the NC game. I also predicted the mid season run and win a bottle of bourbon from Purple Wave. This team is on a mission and the coaching staff is more dialed in than they were last year which is hard to believe. You can all take judicial notice that I'm a homer for this team and I also will be overly optimistic with their success.
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I just don't know how someone can seriously project us to get to the national championship game when both of our last two playoff appearances have placed us in the same half of the bracket as North Dakota State. I have no confidence that we, nor really anyone nationally, can beat them in the playoffs on the road.
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(06-19-2015 06:43 AM)Potomac Wrote:  I just don't know how someone can seriously project us to get to the national championship game when both of our last two playoff appearances have placed us in the same half of the bracket as North Dakota State. I have no confidence that we, nor really anyone nationally, can beat them in the playoffs on the road.

I predict Northern Iowa will give them some pressure and don't believe either one of those teams will beat the other twice in one season. If the right set of circumstances come together, they could meet in the playoffs prior to meeting us. There is no question that NDSU has a very good program, but teams catch-up.
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(06-19-2015 06:43 AM)Potomac Wrote:  I just don't know how someone can seriously project us to get to the national championship game when both of our last two playoff appearances have placed us in the same half of the bracket as North Dakota State. I have no confidence that we, nor really anyone nationally, can beat them in the playoffs on the road.

Probably not but we gave them one of the better games they've gotten in the Fargo dome in recent years. They plowed their way through the rest of the playoffs that year and that was with the much maligned Justin Thorpe and MM.
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RE: Projections for 2015?
Last year:
-Brand new HC
-Band New OC & offense
-Brand new DC & defense
-14 transfers (according to ESPN commentator)
-Started out 2-3
-Major grumbling from fans..
-Then big winning streak, made playoffs.
-Big, athletic, transfer QB sucked early but made a massive improvement over the season......
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No I'm not talking about JMU. But the team was very similar. After that 2-3 (& then 3-4 start), they and their sunglasses wearing former UD HC rode an 8 game winning streak to the semis, winning @ Villanova (sans John Roberstson) in the qtr finals, before getting thumped by NDSU in the semis. And their game notes from their semi final loss shows them with 19 of 23 starters as non seniors. #2 contender for the 2015 title after NDSU. Surprised no one has yet mentioned them....
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(06-19-2015 06:43 AM)Potomac Wrote:  I just don't know how someone can seriously project us to get to the national championship game when both of our last two playoff appearances have placed us in the same half of the bracket as North Dakota State. I have no confidence that we, nor really anyone nationally, can beat them in the playoffs on the road.

I have to see how we are at the end of training camp before I start predicting. I have never been a fan of a running back by committee and Vad Lee needs to be super healthy all year long for us to even have a chance.

And I 'm waiting to see this defense with some new freshman.
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(06-19-2015 07:36 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  Last year:
-Brand new HC
-Band New OC & offense
-Brand new DC & defense
-14 transfers (according to ESPN commentator)
-Started out 2-3
-Major grumbling from fans..
-Then big winning streak, made playoffs.
-Big, athletic, transfer QB sucked early but made a massive improvement over the season......
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No I'm not talking about JMU. But the team was very similar. After that 2-3 (& then 3-4 start), they and their sunglasses wearing former UD HC rode an 8 game winning streak to the semis, winning @ Villanova (sans John Roberstson) in the qtr finals, before getting thumped by NDSU in the semis. And their game notes from their semi final loss shows them with 19 of 23 starters as non seniors. #2 contender for the 2015 title after NDSU. Surprised no one has yet mentioned them....

Not to discount them or speak bad about us but isn't SHSU in the same boat as us in terms of QB? One freak play/injury and POOF? While they were good I feel like even with all the returners that maybe that was lightening in a bottle, I don't have a lot of faith in Keeler so not sure they will be back as strong.
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(06-20-2015 12:38 AM)CISDuke2014 Wrote:  
(06-19-2015 07:36 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  Last year:
-Brand new HC
-Band New OC & offense
-Brand new DC & defense
-14 transfers (according to ESPN commentator)
-Started out 2-3
-Major grumbling from fans..
-Then big winning streak, made playoffs.
-Big, athletic, transfer QB sucked early but made a massive improvement over the season......
.
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No I'm not talking about JMU. But the team was very similar. After that 2-3 (& then 3-4 start), they and their sunglasses wearing former UD HC rode an 8 game winning streak to the semis, winning @ Villanova (sans John Roberstson) in the qtr finals, before getting thumped by NDSU in the semis. And their game notes from their semi final loss shows them with 19 of 23 starters as non seniors. #2 contender for the 2015 title after NDSU. Surprised no one has yet mentioned them....

Not to discount them or speak bad about us but isn't SHSU in the same boat as us in terms of QB? One freak play/injury and POOF? While they were good I feel like even with all the returners that maybe that was lightening in a bottle, I don't have a lot of faith in Keeler so not sure they will be back as strong.

I don't know about their backup, but that sure is the situation for JMU. Could be for them as well. They return most of their starters, more than any other of last year's top teams and their stud QB. Similar to JMU last year, but lost a lot less. I don't see how they are not better than last year IF their QB stays healthy. If he does I would be surprised if they finished worse than 9-2 (losing to Texas Tech and going 7-1 Southland) and a top 5-6 seed (they do play a Div II). Last time Keeler was in his 2nd year coaching UD won the NC (2003).
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(06-19-2015 10:26 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  
(06-19-2015 06:43 AM)Potomac Wrote:  I just don't know how someone can seriously project us to get to the national championship game when both of our last two playoff appearances have placed us in the same half of the bracket as North Dakota State. I have no confidence that we, nor really anyone nationally, can beat them in the playoffs on the road.

I have to see how we are at the end of training camp before I start predicting. I have never been a fan of a running back by committee and Vad Lee needs to be super healthy all year long for us to even have a chance.

And I 'm waiting to see this defense with some new freshman.

Never been a big fan of RB by committee either. I guess it depends on how that committee works. You need two backs IMO but I think we overdid it last year. When the game is in the balance and you put Taylor Woods in on the last drive for his first PT all game and give him the ball, I just don't understand that. Then you have things like Hill playing one week and getting carries and the next he doesn't get a snap. Then Abdullah is starting and the primary back and then the next week it's Miller. They you bring in Sharpe as a freshman. That's not a committee, it's a WWE Royal Rumble. At some point you have to let one or two guys get a rhythm and not be so timid to play if they miss one hole. That seemed ridiculous to me.
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