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Jill Elli, WM Alumnus, is ready to lead the US WNT to a World Cup victory
06-06-2015 11:00 AM
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RE: Jill Elli, WM Alumnus, is ready to lead the US WNT to a World Cup victory
I'm a huge soccer fan (not FIFA) and can't wait for Monday's game.

The single greatest minute of soccer was the extra time 122' cross to beat Brazil.

https://youtu.be/cvGfV6qCiOI
06-06-2015 11:15 AM
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I can't believe we haven't won since 99. That's incredible.
06-06-2015 11:16 AM
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Jill Elli, WM Alumnus, is ready to lead the US WNT to a World Cup victory
Between this, the U.S. big win yesterday, and the upcoming men's gold cup (confederations cup spot on the line), it's going to be a good soccer summer. Add the FIFA implosion and things couldn't get much better.
06-06-2015 12:40 PM
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RE: Jill Elli, WM Alumnus, is ready to lead the US WNT to a World Cup victory
Because it's in the spirit of our board... title should be WM Alumna. If you're going to go to the effort of distinguishing singular vs. plural, you have to get the gender right, too.
06-07-2015 08:57 AM
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RE: Jill Elli, WM Alumnus, is ready to lead the US WNT to a World Cup victory
An alumnus (masculine, plural alumni) or alumna (feminine, plural alumnae) is a former student or pupil of a school, college, or university.

An alumnus or alumna is a former student and most often a graduate of an educational institution (school, college, university).[1][8] According to the United States Department of Education, the term alumnae is used in conjunction with either women's colleges[9] or a female group of students. The term alumni is used in conjunction with either men's colleges, a male group of students, or a mixed group of students:

In accordance with the rules of grammar governing the inflexion of nouns in the Romance languages, the masculine plural alumni is correctly used for groups composed of both sexes: the alumni of Princeton University.[10]
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It's gotta be Sunday...
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RE: Jill Elli, WM Alumnus, is ready to lead the US WNT to a World Cup victory
Don't get me started on the misuse of the word "gender" when "sex" is correct.

wanm65, enlighten us on that.
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As you wish:

The distinction between sex and gender differentiates sex (the anatomy of an individual's reproductive system, and secondary sex characteristics) from gender (social roles based on the sex of the person, usually culturally learned), or personal identification of one's own gender based on an internal awareness (gender identity).

In the Oxford English Dictionary, gender is defined as, "[i]n mod. (esp. feminist) use, a euphemism for the sex of a human being, often intended to emphasize the social and cultural, as opposed to the biological, distinctions between the sexes.", with the earliest example cited being from 1963. The American Heritage Dictionary (5th ed.), in addition to defining gender the same way that it defines biological sex, also states that gender may be defined by identity as "neither entirely female nor entirely male"; its Usage Note adds:

Some people maintain that the word sex should be reserved for reference to the biological aspects of being male or female or to sexual activity, and that the word gender should be used only to refer to sociocultural roles. Accordingly, one would say The effectiveness of the treatment appears to depend on the sex of the patient and In society, gender roles are clearly defined. In some situations this distinction avoids ambiguity, as in gender research, which is clear in a way that sex research is not. The distinction can be problematic, however. Linguistically, there isn't any real difference between gender bias and sex bias, and it may seem contrived to insist that sex is incorrect in this instance.

A working definition in use by the World Health Organization for its work is that "'[g]ender' refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviours, activities, and attributes that a given society considers appropriate for men and women" and that "'masculine' and 'feminine' are gender categories."
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Yep, it's Sunday...
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(06-07-2015 03:03 PM)Tribal Wrote:  Don't get me started on the misuse of the word "gender" when "sex" is correct.

wanm65, enlighten us on that.

"Gender" here is appropriate since I'm referring to the Latin, rather than Jill Ellis.
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(06-07-2015 08:56 PM)TribeInTheBurg Wrote:  
(06-07-2015 03:03 PM)Tribal Wrote:  Don't get me started on the misuse of the word "gender" when "sex" is correct.

wanm65, enlighten us on that.

"Gender" here is appropriate since I'm referring to the Latin, rather than Jill Ellis.

I didn't say you were incorrect, merely pointed out another grammatical issue since you brought it up. If my post addressed you, I would have made it clear. I don't mean that in a "tough guy" sort of way, either...I just don't believe in being coy or passive-aggressive.
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(06-07-2015 08:56 PM)TribeInTheBurg Wrote:  
(06-07-2015 03:03 PM)Tribal Wrote:  Don't get me started on the misuse of the word "gender" when "sex" is correct.

wanm65, enlighten us on that.

"Gender" here is appropriate since I'm referring to the Latin, rather than Jill Ellis.
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Speaking of "gender", I am told that there are now 57 approved varieties. Don't know how many versions of Alumnus, a, um that will require,
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(06-07-2015 08:58 PM)Tribal Wrote:  
(06-07-2015 08:56 PM)TribeInTheBurg Wrote:  
(06-07-2015 03:03 PM)Tribal Wrote:  Don't get me started on the misuse of the word "gender" when "sex" is correct.

wanm65, enlighten us on that.

"Gender" here is appropriate since I'm referring to the Latin, rather than Jill Ellis.

I didn't say you were incorrect, merely pointed out another grammatical issue since you brought it up. If my post addressed you, I would have made it clear. I don't mean that in a "tough guy" sort of way, either...I just don't believe in being coy or passive-aggressive.

No worries, that's what I got from your post, but I figured I'd string this thread out a little longer.
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RE: Jill Elli, WM Alumnus, is ready to lead the US WNT to a World Cup victory
1-1 at the half. Australia looks like the dominant team. Hope Solo is the only reason Australia isn't up 3-1.
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3-1 final. Really turned it around in the second half. Must be a Tribe coach thing....slow starts, strong finishes.
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The official didn't do us any favors. Two phantom yellow cards and kept her YC in her pocket when an Australian mauled our player. That's soccer for you.
06-08-2015 09:02 PM
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Watched the 1st half but only part of the 2nd but the Holiday yellow was a clear yellow. Can't take a person down once the ball is past like that and not expect a yellow. It is always given in that situation. Didn't see the other 2 plays you talked about.
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I thought both yellows on the U.S. were legit. The first was a tackle of the player ... Ball long gone. The second was a from behind stop of an Aussie player who had broken away.

Rapinoe and Solo were huge tonight.
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